Solar panels
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nightflight

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814 posts

241 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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Has anyone had experience of having solar panels fitted to their house. There seems to be a lot of claims being made about savings, and even making money out of feeding into the national grid. Are these claims justified? I would appreciate comments, or advise about which company to use (north west).

dickymint

28,524 posts

282 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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Don't do it as it puts up MY bill. wink

Aviz

1,669 posts

193 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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My Dad has them, cost around 13k. Guaranteed to still produce 85% after 25 years. I think he just said he's made £600 last quarter from putting back into the grid. And he's only had to pay for 18 units of electricity in that quarter.

I will check the figures with him, and find out the supplier (He's in Manchester area). (they've done a few of his mate's houses too)

He reckons that after 5 -7 years they will have paid for themselves.

Simpo Two

91,581 posts

289 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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Many threads about this; have a search.




It's a great idea; it makes money out of thin air AND makes the world happy and beautiful. Not.

tobeee

1,436 posts

292 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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Had mine fitted two months ago, and the electricity meter is reading pretty much the same as it was on the first day! Yes, they're a good thing.

Paul Drawmer

5,123 posts

291 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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Done on here lots.
I'm a fan, but not worth it if you're renting your roof out though.

You're welcome to PM me for some detail.


My actual production in kWh. Multiply each unit by 43.3p for income. Amount invested £13,000 (would be less today)

dickymint

28,524 posts

282 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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Anybody seriously believe that the 25 year guaranteed feed in tarrif (about 4 times it's real value) will be honoured? I used to think my pension was safe spin

freecar

4,249 posts

211 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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dickymint said:
Anybody seriously believe that the 25 year guaranteed feed in tarrif (about 4 times it's real value) will be honoured? I used to think my pension was safe spin
This is exactly the reason why they are bad. The government have already started to look into it, it wont be long before they realise that with nations pulling out of Kyoto at a rate of knots that solar tariffs and green taxes are not the way to go for the UK to remain competetive.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

269 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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freecar said:
dickymint said:
Anybody seriously believe that the 25 year guaranteed feed in tarrif (about 4 times it's real value) will be honoured? I used to think my pension was safe spin
This is exactly the reason why they are bad. The government have already started to look into it, it wont be long before they realise that with nations pulling out of Kyoto at a rate of knots that solar tariffs and green taxes are not the way to go for the UK to remain competetive.
The figures have been adjusted twice already since the scheme was set up - once for commercial, once for higher-rate systems, only a matter of time before the domestic level ones get tweaked and ultimately canned. In fact the domestic rate is already set to drop massively (though only for new, not established installations) from April next year.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

194 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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tobeee said:
Had mine fitted two months ago, and the electricity meter is reading pretty much the same as it was on the first day! Yes, they're a good thing.
I think PV panels and the FIT are a secret government conspiracy to identify all society's sociopaths.

For the record, they are a very bad, very stupid, very dishonest, very expensive thing. But you're all right Jack, so stuff the world!

And BTW, someone who generated 600 units in the last quarter will probably average 300-350 per quarter over the whole year.

Simpo Two

91,581 posts

289 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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There's nothing wrong with wanting to save money - but that money is coming indirectly from everybody else.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

194 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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Well no! PV panels aren't economically viable. If they were they wouldn't have to bribe people to install them and mug the rest of their customers. Everyone that installs them knows this, ergo they are selfish idiots! And the double whammy is that the energy companies now petitioning for another extra tax/customer levy to pay for loads of gas power stations to have on standby because solar/wind is unpredictable/unreliable and least available when you most need it! You couldn't make it up.

Paul Drawmer

5,123 posts

291 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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Mr GrimNasty said:
....I think PV panels and the FIT are a secret government conspiracy to identify all society's sociopaths...

For the record, they are a very bad, very stupid, very dishonest, very expensive thing. But you're all right Jack, so stuff the world!
Mr GrimNasty said:
Everyone that installs them knows this, ergo they are selfish idiots!
Well; you are certainly living up to your name.


Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

194 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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Well just quoting stuff doesn't really make an argument or demonstrate a point does it!

If you have a serious contribution/defence state it - you don't so you can't.

http://www.fitariffs.co.uk/FITs/principles/funding...

Of course everybody can't take advantage because if they did we'd all be paying £10-£15K a year for electric bills. It is insane.

Crafty_

13,871 posts

224 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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A bloke at work had them installed today, reckons its going to save him a fortune..

I keep hearing an advert on the radio offering the panels and fitting for free, government grants pay for it all apparently. There is obviously some catch but haven't bothered to look in to it.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

194 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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banghead

King Herald

23,501 posts

240 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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I'd be interested in some info on 24 volt LED solar systems, for our new house in the Philippines.

I'd guess they simply top up a big battery and then can be used at night for house lighting, exterior lights etc.

Electricity is expensive over here, more expensive than the UK, which is a bit of a shock seeing as it is a dirt poor turd world country.

Steffan

10,362 posts

252 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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dickymint said:
Anybody seriously believe that the 25 year guaranteed feed in tarrif (about 4 times it's real value) will be honoured? I used to think my pension was safe spin
That really is the point.

Lots of companies now on the gravy train how many will exist in 5 years time?

Let alone 25 years time.

I am afraid this will be like the Individual Learning Accounts a few years ago.

It will be milked by the Ponzy merchants and off they will go.

As a rule in business ANY investment which is utterly foolproof is all too often a scam.

There must be a downside risk.

Paul Drawmer

5,123 posts

291 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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Mr GrimNasty said:
Well just quoting stuff doesn't really make an argument or demonstrate a point does it!

If you have a serious contribution/defence state it - you don't so you can't.

http://www.fitariffs.co.uk/FITs/principles/funding...

Of course everybody can't take advantage because if they did we'd all be paying £10-£15K a year for electric bills. It is insane.
Here's a point of view:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/cif-green/20...



dickymint

28,524 posts

282 months

Friday 8th July 2011
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Mr GrimNasty said:
banghead
rofl