Asbestos?

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ST_Nuts

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1,487 posts

109 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Looking to knock down a 1940's concrete shed, I'm certain the roof is asbestos but how likely are the concrete blocks containing asbestos?

Don't usually find asbestos in blocks?




Big Al.

68,980 posts

260 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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IIRC roofing doesn't contain blue asbestos, you can remove (with mask) and place in sealed black rubble bags and take to the tip. Inform them of contents.

As I say IIRC. smile

Deerfoot

4,919 posts

186 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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^ I had to dispose of some asbestos roofing sheets late last year. Wiltshire council had two sites which accepted the stuff ( not all of the county refuse centres accept asbestos).

I had to wear full PPE (mask, disposable overalls, gloves and face mask) whilst at the tip. The sheets had to be double wrapped in purpose made asbestos bags (Amazon sell them) and I had to make an appointment. At the tip I had to show my council tax bill and fill in a couple of forms before I could ditch it all.

Sounds like a faff but it was painless and much cheaper than the £500 I was quoted by a professional disposal company to do it.

Check with your local authority, their requirements may be different.

55palfers

5,937 posts

166 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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meehaja

607 posts

110 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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They put the stuff everywhere! Roof almost certainly, try and get it out without breaking it, full suit, mask, gloves and good sounds a faff but worth it (bonus breaking bad cosplay). Blocks are a possibility. If they have any coating then be very suspicious. A good rule of thumb for assessing for possible asbestos is if you think it might be presume it is and treat accordingly.

ST_Nuts

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1,487 posts

109 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Thanks guys - yeah local recycling centre will take them - £10 per sheet. Have contacted a local company to get a quote to see how much they'd charge - only have 5 sheets!

Might be easier to bury them under the new shed lol.

Re. the block work - there's no outer coat so presume safe to chuck in a skip? I'll be wearing proper asbestos gear anyway.

Is there such thing as a asbestos test kit? - off to google it...

Deerfoot

4,919 posts

186 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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ST_Nuts said:
Thanks guys - yeah local recycling centre will take them - £10 per sheet.
Really? I paid nothing to dispose of them at a Wiltshire council recycling centre, my only expenses were buying the PPE and the plastic sacks. I ditched around 20 sheets...

RATATTAK

11,541 posts

191 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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ST_Nuts said:
Might be easier to bury them under the new shed lol.
ooo don't do that ... I know you said it in jest but it is illegal

ST_Nuts

Original Poster:

1,487 posts

109 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Deerfoot said:
Really? I paid nothing to dispose of them at a Wiltshire council recycling centre, my only expenses were buying the PPE and the plastic sacks. I ditched around 20 sheets...
Exeter council for you! I even had a meter long plastic drain pipe... That'll be £5 sir! Ended up in the landfill bin!

RATATTAK

11,541 posts

191 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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ST_Nuts said:
Might be easier to bury them under the new shed lol.
ooo don't do that ... I know you said it in jest but it is illegal

dickymint

24,621 posts

260 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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ST_Nuts said:
Thanks guys - yeah local recycling centre will take them - £10 per sheet. Have contacted a local company to get a quote to see how much they'd charge - only have 5 sheets!

Might be easier to bury them under the new shed lol.

Re. the block work - there's no outer coat so presume safe to chuck in a skip? I'll be wearing proper asbestos gear anyway.

Is there such thing as a asbestos test kit? - off to google it...
There are online companies that you can post a sample to be tested.

kiethton

13,960 posts

182 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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Wow, I remember when I was ~14 (~15 years back now) my dad had me smashing asbesdolux soffit panels with a hammer to get them out with no PPE.....The bags (previously double wrapped in standard bin bags) are now somewhere in the undergrowth of their back garden.

Still here so assume it's all ok

stewjohnst

2,444 posts

163 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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kiethton said:
Wow, I remember when I was ~14 (~15 years back now) my dad had me smashing asbesdolux soffit panels with a hammer to get them out with no PPE.....The bags (previously double wrapped in standard bin bags) are now somewhere in the undergrowth of their back garden.

Still here so assume it's all ok
You’ve got about another 10-15 years left then sonny boy - Make the most of them! biggrin

K50 DEL

9,275 posts

230 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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RATATTAK said:
ST_Nuts said:
Might be easier to bury them under the new shed lol.
ooo don't do that ... I know you said it in jest but it is illegal
Just claim ignorance!
I genuinely didn't realise it was illegal and (having smashed it up) buried a couple of old downpipes in the footings for a conservatory at a house I used to live in.

Given that for years people who worked with asbestos day-in and day-out didn't wear any PPE and 99% were fine I'm afraid I find this HSE crazy overreaction regarding the stuff to be somewhat laughable to be honest and can't say I'd have done anything different had I known it was illegal.

RATATTAK

11,541 posts

191 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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Don't wish to be morbid but anyone who thinks it's OK to work with asbestos without taking precautions should take a look at the lifestyle of someone dying of pneumoconiosis

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Also ignorance of any law is no excuse, so if you break the law expect to be brought before a court

Flibble

6,477 posts

183 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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K50 DEL said:
Given that for years people who worked with asbestos day-in and day-out didn't wear any PPE and 99% were fine I'm afraid I find this HSE crazy overreaction regarding the stuff to be somewhat laughable to be honest and can't say I'd have done anything different had I known it was illegal.
Lung cancer is a right laugh you're right. rolleyes

iphonedyou

9,288 posts

159 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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K50 DEL said:
Just claim ignorance!
I genuinely didn't realise it was illegal and (having smashed it up) buried a couple of old downpipes in the footings for a conservatory at a house I used to live in.

Given that for years people who worked with asbestos day-in and day-out didn't wear any PPE and 99% were fine I'm afraid I find this HSE crazy overreaction regarding the stuff to be somewhat laughable to be honest and can't say I'd have done anything different had I known it was illegal.
I don't think you'll find much argument against your claim of ignorance.

Sir Bagalot

6,535 posts

183 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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K50 DEL said:
Given that for years people who worked with asbestos day-in and day-out didn't wear any PPE and 99% were fine I'm afraid I find this HSE crazy overreaction regarding the stuff to be somewhat laughable to be honest and can't say I'd have done anything different had I known it was illegal.
Yep, it's laughable.rolleyes

My Dad worked with asbestos when the dangers were unknown.

25 years later he died through throat cancer from breathing the dust in.