Is it legal to not refund a letting admin fee?

Is it legal to not refund a letting admin fee?

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pingu393

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Saturday 4th March 2017
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The situation:

Someone I know started the process of renting a property. On Monday he was told by the agent (high street brand) to pay a non-refundable administration fee (£300) in order to for them to do the necessary checks. He paid the money.

Yesterday (Friday), he was told that the property had been let to someone else and that he wouldn't be getting the admin fee returned.

Is this legal?

What can he do about it?

pingu393

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Saturday 4th March 2017
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It's not a bogus letting agent - they are a well known high street brand.

pingu393

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Sunday 5th March 2017
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13m said:
I would like to know the truth of the situation, which the above may well not be.

Tenants sometimes lie or change their minds about renting a property. They rarely then say, "my fault, keep the deposit". It's usually everyone else's fault and they want their money back. The answer "no" usually offends and they start making threats about every sort of retribution they can think of, none of which ever plays out.
I suspect a bit of this. Especially when the person concerned won't discuss the matter without losing their rag. That's why I only wanted to know the law on the matter. I can then point them to any legislation and leave it up to them.

I'd love to get involved as I love a good cause to fight, but all they are doing is jumping up an down and getting angry when they should be getting even smile.

pingu393

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Monday 6th March 2017
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FrankAbagnale said:
Is it possible to hint at which agent it is without breaking forum rules?

The vast majority of agents wouldn't employ this practice. However, there are a few aggressive high street brands who pull all sorts of stunts like this.

Assuming that the story is as simple as you are being told!
I don't want to name and shame until I am 100% sure of the facts.

Have no fear. If it turns out to be true, you will be in no doubt about who it is.

pingu393

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xjay1337 said:
Vaud said:
Personally I'd start with a "letter before action" giving them 5 working days to return the fees.
I would do that - The fee should be refunded if the deal is reneged by the other party - If you decided to bail then that's your fault..
Should the letter come from my friend, or from a solicitor? Irwin Mitchell do it for £2, but I'm sure my friend would be chased for more work 'til the day they die.

pingu393

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Monday 6th March 2017
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Vaud said:
pingu393 said:
Should the letter come from my friend, or from a solicitor? Irwin Mitchell do it for £2, but I'm sure my friend would be chased for more work 'til the day they die.
Your friend can write it. Just use a template. No fancy language needed, just statement of the resolution sought.
Ta.

pingu393

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Monday 6th March 2017
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Slagathore said:
You need to see what was signed and and find out why it's not being returned.

If he failed referencing, for instance, it's probably not refundable. Just make sure he is telling you the truth first.

Agents should really be cracking down on the fees and how they are advertised etc, given the fuss that's been made about them.

They should be registered with one of the redress schemes, so ask the agents what their complaint policy is and start the process. They can get fined by the local council if they are not part of a redress scheme, but I'd imagine they are already if they're a big chain one.

There's so much info out there - https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housing/renting-...

Just have a read and see what would be the best next step.
I've downloaded some Letters Before Action. The Citizens' Advice one is for goods, and it also suggests that a letter of complaint should have been sent before the Letter Before Action.

The letting agent is a member of NALS.

Like you say, I need to get the facts, not just the whinging. Not easy when hormones are involved smile.

pingu393

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thebraketester said:
Wasnt Foxtons was it?
No, but this is the last company that I will either confirm or deny. I don't want to get into the blame game until there is someone to blame.

When there is, you will be in no doubt who it is smile.

pingu393

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Tuesday 7th March 2017
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13m said:
You're entitled to it back, providing you represented yourself correctly and were in a position to perform. It was the other party who didn't. Though I say "entitled" there may be situations where you aren't, but I'd be surprised if you didn't get it back.
I can understand the business's dilemma.

They have got your £300 and they have had expenses. They have had to carry out checks, etc.

They have been let down by their client and it is the client who should give them the money, but they have your money.

They know that they have little chance of getting their money from their client.

Only their integrity will ensure they do the right thing.