The Bailiffs are calling today.

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Seven months down the road from first starting possession proceedings against my tenant, for non payment of rent, anti social behaviour, including physical assault against another tenant, I will be in attendance with the Bailiffs and Police today, when they seek to gain possession of my property.

This is not an experience that I am looking foreword to, since the tenant not only has history of GBH, drugs dealing, but also has several dogs which he has been known to be breeding to act aggressively. Should be an interesting day, one that I could do without.

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Ahhh Moneypenny said:

Wings said:

Seven months down the road from first starting possession proceedings against my tenant, for non payment of rent, anti social behaviour, including physical assault against another tenant, I will be in attendance with the Bailiffs and Police today, when they seek to gain possession of my property.

This is not an experience that I am looking foreword to, since the tenant not only has history of GBH, drugs dealing, but also has several dogs which he has been known to be breeding to act aggressively. Should be an interesting day, one that I could do without.

Didn't you get references from the scroat before you gave him tennancy? ie you said 'he has a history of GBH and drug dealing'

Yes I got references, that was 4 years ago when he was starting out as a college student, I also met his parents, but then the experiences of life has changed his character.

Dealing in drugs, GBH offence, together with non payment of rent, has only happened over the past 9 months.

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LadyHayles said:

In my experience if you want to lighten your day get chatting to the bailiff - they have some fantastic stories about situations they've had to deal with.

Whenever I am required to attend site with a bailiff I always have a good chat with them.

Last site visit when I was evicting someone from their house due to their bankruptcy and failure to co-operate with us I had her whole family screaming at me and calling me allsorts and it did leave me a little shaken afterwards. The bailiff turned round to me and said it could be worse - he had attended an eviction the day before where the guy refused to come out and then when he did slashed his wrists while stood on the doorstep (the guy had a history of mental illness by the way) expecting the bailiff to leave. All he did was ring an ambulance who took the guy away for hospital treatment and he purely stepped over the puddle of blood and secured the property and stuck eviction notices up!

Priceless!

Thank you for your comments. I expect the flat to be completely vandalised, with dogs and human excrements every where. Subject to what I find, I may just make the property secure, in order to wait and see if any further repercussions are taken against the property.

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LadyHayles said:

Wings said:

Thank you for your comments. I expect the flat to be completely vandalised, with dogs and human excrement every where. Subject to what I find, I may just make the property secure, in order to wait and see if any further repercussions are taken against the property.

To be honest normally if you prepare for the worst its not usually as bad as you think. And people like that will quickly find someone else they want to annoy far more than you.

Would advise though that if he is a drug user that you get your local environmental health team to clear the flat as there may be needles etc laying around. I've had to call them out on a couple of occasions - they do a really good job and obviously dispose of everything for you and not too pricey.

Again thanks for your posting, and again you are so right.

Arrived just before the designated time, on parking my car, I could see ahead a red metro, with sat inside two mid 30s gentlemen. When they both approached me and introduced themselves to me, they simply did not match my impressions of what a Bailiff would look like. One was slim, about 5’10” and in his late 30s, more the type you might see in your local Spar shop, the other east European appearance, 5’6” in his late 30s, the type working in your local pizza shop.

We all approached the main door of the flat that was to be repossessed, there were no locks on the door, with an indication that previous false entry had been made on the premises. Looking through the letterbox there appeared to be furniture propped up against the main door, this stopping the Bailiffs gaining entry. A walked round the exterior windows, indicated that by removing the outer seals/beading of the windows we might be able to remove the double glazed units and gain entry that way. As I started to do the same, one of the Bailiffs called out that he had pushed aside the furniture and gained entry into the property.

Parts of the flat/property was trashed, items such as bathroom sink, toilet, shower tray, kitchen units, carpets and central heating boiler all need replacing, together with general repainting of the flat. As I was looking over the flat the evicted tenant appeared, I greeted him by his Christian name, and as a matter of fact asked him when he might complete removal of his personal affects.

I replaced and fitted the front door, making secure all windows, agreed with the evicted tenant this his dogs could stay over night in the premises, and after I took them for walkies, I locked up the premises for the refurbishment to start in earnest tomorrow.

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10 Pence Short said:

So, you're going to throw a man and animals out in the cold, during a credit crunch, when it's cold. You're prepared to be violent towards him over a simple money issue.

Can I come and watch?

I thought of you when I saw the carpets, LOL

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ali_kat said:

Good luck with this Wings!

Park your car securely elsewhere

It is the measure of you that you will always give thoughts to others, thanks.

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Poledriver said:

Wings said:

Seven months down the road from first starting possession proceedings against my tenant, for non payment of rent, anti social behaviour, including physical assault against another tenant, I will be in attendance with the Bailiffs and Police today, when they seek to gain possession of my property.

This is not an experience that I am looking foreword to, since the tenant not only has history of GBH, drugs dealing, but also has several dogs which he has been known to be breeding to act aggressively. Should be an interesting day, one that I could do without.

Just out of interest, where is this property?

North Bristol.

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Catz said:

Wings said:

agreed with the evicted tenant this his dogs could stay over night in the premises, and after I took them for walkies,

As much as I love dogs why did you agree to that???

Also if he had parents around when he first saw the flat didn't you get in touch with them about his behaviour? (I have not read all of the thread)

The dogs were not in arrears with their rent.

The parents have moved since he moved in, although I possibly could trace them, although I believe as he is an adult it should be between just me and him.

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FarleyRusk said:

Wings said:

I replaced and fitted the front door, making secure all windows, agreed with the evicted tenant this his dogs could stay over night in the premises, and after I took them for walkies, I locked up the premises for the refurbishment to start in earnest tomorrow.

Capitulation is such an ugly word. Did you smoke his pipe too whilst you were about it?
He owns you now.

Edited by FarleyRusk on Wednesday 15th October 21:59

He owns you now, if you mean what I think you mean, you could be right, for after replacing front door and fitted new 5 lever dead locks, he still managed to gain entry about 1 am this morning.

Entry was made by removing the double glazed window seals/beading, then removing double glazed unit and climbing in.

In the process of contacting the freeholder of the leasehold flat to see if I can/or they will board up the windows with marine ply.

I am trying to deal with the situation in a way that he will not kick off again, 6'6", 16st. male on coke is not an experience I want myself or the property/flat to face.

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Broccers said:

So how are his dogs ?

Two very friendly dogs, lots of weight behind them, do not like being locked up, but when out on the lead very friendly. Although I still would not like to be about if they were told to "kill".

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hora said:

wings in respect you worried about the property being targetted later on. borrow a estate agents 'sold' board. If you cant locate one, pop in and say you will be putting the flat on the market soon but to stop any attacks mid-refurb etc could you borrow a sold board in the meantime - added bonus it will get the agents name free 'sold' advertising.

This way the Ex-tenant will think its no longer yours to attack no?

Good thinking, and thanks.

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ali_kat said:

Wings said:

He owns you now, if you mean what I think you mean, you could be right, for after replacing front door and fitted new 5 lever dead locks, he still managed to gain entry about 1 am this morning.

Entry was made by removing the double glazed window seals/beading, then removing double glazed unit and climbing in.

In the process of contacting the freeholder of the leasehold flat to see if I can/or they will board up the windows with marine ply.

I am trying to deal with the situation in a way that he will not kick off again, 6'6", 16st. male on coke is not an experience I want myself or the property/flat to face.

Christ Ok, he'll have been cold, and lonely without the dogs possibly, and wanting to be with/worried about them?

I take it he had not bothered to find anywhere else to go. Your capitulation on allowing the dogs to stay was certainly his reason for re-entry, although we will never know if he would have broken back in again.


However, as he has actually now forced entry aka broken in, can you not involve the BiB?

Another poster made reference to the dogs, and the possible reason for gaining entry, so you could both possibly be right. This afternoon I managed to board up all the windows, and whilst doing the same, the evicted tenant arrived in a van. He removed some personal items, together with the dogs.

Now the windows are boarded, together with a new door and secured locks, should he attempt or gain entry again, then the Police will become involve. I did speak to the police this afternoon, and I have been given a log number, in case there should be any further incident, hopefully there will not be.

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Well Friday decided to start removing furniture and the evicted tenant’s personal effects and papers. Usual sort of bank, credit cards, benefit agency and recruitment agency pay slips, together with hundreds of papers etc. etc.

So for a 22 year old young man there was nothing unusual that distinguish him being different to any other young man of his age group, there was the X-box, mobile phones, computer, music centre, the odd item of a female’s underwear, porn mags., martial art material.

However, what I did find concerning were the couple of baseball bats, military style trousers, lots of martial art material, together with a bundle of foreign currency, some being One Dollar notes, others 1000 Afghanis notes from Da Afghanistan Bank, 500 Rupees from Reserve Bank of India and lastly currency from the State Babk of Pakistan.

Before leaving the flat the tenant made a concerted effort to burn documents, but left other convicting documents, evidence of benefit fraud, were left.