Found my lost corn snake after 12 years!!!!!!!

Found my lost corn snake after 12 years!!!!!!!

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zeb

3,205 posts

220 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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great story

thanks

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

249 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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308mate said:
Err...Im with Andy Zarse on this one. As nice as it is to hear about, releasing a non-native species in to the wild is an absolute no-no in my opinion. The wildlife balance is too delicate. Im actually amazed that attitude seems to be in the minority on this thread.

Examples:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbits_in_Australia

For something closer to home, the driving out of red squirrels:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Squirrel

Fine, youre doing your old pet/freind a favour. But what about the species already native, happily roaming the countryside who werent expecting to come across a corn snake this summer?

In my opinion, tres uncool.
Its one snake. Perhaps you skipped biology in school? I would suspect that its highly unlikly that more than one Corn Snake exisits in the area.

The rabbits in Australia were released in their thousands.

Lord Pikey

3,257 posts

217 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Another thumbup to the plucky snake here.


308mate

13,757 posts

224 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Tony*T3 said:
308mate said:
Err...Im with Andy Zarse on this one. As nice as it is to hear about, releasing a non-native species in to the wild is an absolute no-no in my opinion. The wildlife balance is too delicate. Im actually amazed that attitude seems to be in the minority on this thread.

Examples:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbits_in_Australia

For something closer to home, the driving out of red squirrels:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Squirrel

Fine, youre doing your old pet/freind a favour. But what about the species already native, happily roaming the countryside who werent expecting to come across a corn snake this summer?

In my opinion, tres uncool.
Its one snake. Perhaps you skipped biology in school? I would suspect that its highly unlikly that more than one Corn Snake exisits in the area.

The rabbits in Australia were released in their thousands.
Unlikley it may be. But what are the consequences if it does? Thats how you measure risk.

Fair enough, its not very likely that there is another one close by. Except maybe the other one the OP has (which he believes is male - I realise that) and its not like he ever allows them to escape is it?

So in fact, there are two corn snakes, living very close by. The chance of them breeding is actually only limited by how well the OP knows his male from female and how good he is at keeping them captive. His record on one of those isnt that good.


Si 330

1,301 posts

211 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Apart from one snake is living in his parents garden and the other is living at the OP house. Two different locations.

Poledriver

28,667 posts

196 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Unless it's learned to reproduce by binary fission?

chevronb37

6,471 posts

188 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Completely awesome story. There must be loads of animals roaming the countryside having escaped. It's awesome to know he found a comfortable home in the rockery. I can understand folk quoting legislation, but I find this genuinely exciting. You did the best thing for your pet by allowing him back into his tunnels. It'll be warm in there and he'll find food as he needs it.

no1special

1,026 posts

179 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Excellent story, thanks for sharing.
One of my corns escaped for 8 days once. Found him curled round the fan on my beer fridge!
Bloody good escape artists...almost every night I hear the corns and the Python rubbing their noses along the glass front to try and open the sliding door!

no1special

1,026 posts

179 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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911motorsport said:
clap Fantastic story; local papers would love that!

It often amazes me how tough animals are to survive in the wild without anyone telling them.



Picture below of the 'terrifying' corn snake that must NEVER be unleased on an unsuspecting public hehe


That looks like my Kellogs!!

becksW

14,682 posts

213 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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911motorsport said:
clap Fantastic story; local papers would love that!

It often amazes me how tough animals are to survive in the wild without anyone telling them.



Picture below of the 'terrifying' corn snake that must NEVER be unleased on an unsuspecting public rofl




Edited by 911motorsport on Tuesday 30th March 12:40
Local paper would love it but you'd get too much revolt with the fact it was put back, I know technically it is incorrect but in this case I don't believe local wildlife is going to suffer and it was for the best for the snake. Would prob end up with the RSPCA being involved.
A friend of mine has a corn snake called Dennis, he is about 20 years old now! Lazy snake. always has been smile

aclivity

4,072 posts

190 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Tony*T3 said:
308mate said:
Err...Im with Andy Zarse on this one. As nice as it is to hear about, releasing a non-native species in to the wild is an absolute no-no in my opinion. The wildlife balance is too delicate. Im actually amazed that attitude seems to be in the minority on this thread.

Examples:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbits_in_Australia

For something closer to home, the driving out of red squirrels:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Squirrel

Fine, youre doing your old pet/freind a favour. But what about the species already native, happily roaming the countryside who werent expecting to come across a corn snake this summer?

In my opinion, tres uncool.
Its one snake. Perhaps you skipped biology in school? I would suspect that its highly unlikly that more than one Corn Snake exisits in the area.

The rabbits in Australia were released in their thousands.
Nope: 12

Skepticfiles Link said:
In 1859, 12 wild rabbits, Oryctolagus cuniculus, were imported from England. By 1886 their descendents were colonizing new areas of southeastern Australia at the rate of 66 miles a year in all directions.
I'm with 308Mate and Andy Zarse.


911motorsport

7,251 posts

235 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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no1special said:
911motorsport said:
clap Fantastic story; local papers would love that!

It often amazes me how tough animals are to survive in the wild without anyone telling them.



Picture below of the 'terrifying' corn snake that must NEVER be unleased on an unsuspecting public hehe


That looks like my Kellogs!!
rofl Kellogs Cornsnakes; I like it

southendpier

5,273 posts

231 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Famous Graham said:
GKP said:
Wild? It was bloddy furious.


(NTNON)
"Wild, I was absolutely livid".

Pistonheads : Quotes Matter
"You must be mad"
"Mad? I'm absolutely furious". Rowan Atkinson (stand up)

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

249 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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aclivity said:
Tony*T3 said:
308mate said:
Err...Im with Andy Zarse on this one. As nice as it is to hear about, releasing a non-native species in to the wild is an absolute no-no in my opinion. The wildlife balance is too delicate. Im actually amazed that attitude seems to be in the minority on this thread.

Examples:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbits_in_Australia

For something closer to home, the driving out of red squirrels:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Squirrel

Fine, youre doing your old pet/freind a favour. But what about the species already native, happily roaming the countryside who werent expecting to come across a corn snake this summer?

In my opinion, tres uncool.
Its one snake. Perhaps you skipped biology in school? I would suspect that its highly unlikly that more than one Corn Snake exisits in the area.

The rabbits in Australia were released in their thousands.
Nope: 12

Skepticfiles Link said:
In 1859, 12 wild rabbits, Oryctolagus cuniculus, were imported from England. By 1886 their descendents were colonizing new areas of southeastern Australia at the rate of 66 miles a year in all directions.
I'm with 308Mate and Andy Zarse.
This has been rubbished as mere folk law. Do you really think that only one of the hudreds of thousands of people that went to Australia thought that Rabbits would be a good idea? There may have been only 12 in the initial relaease, but in subsequent years many other people imported rabbits and let them escape.


And Rabbits are a far more hardy and successful creature when it comes to reproduction than a singular corn snake.

Lemoncurd

175 posts

219 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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aclivity said:
Tony*T3 said:
308mate said:
Err...Im with Andy Zarse on this one. As nice as it is to hear about, releasing a non-native species in to the wild is an absolute no-no in my opinion. The wildlife balance is too delicate. Im actually amazed that attitude seems to be in the minority on this thread.

Examples:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbits_in_Australia

For something closer to home, the driving out of red squirrels:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Squirrel

Fine, youre doing your old pet/freind a favour. But what about the species already native, happily roaming the countryside who werent expecting to come across a corn snake this summer?

In my opinion, tres uncool.
Its one snake. Perhaps you skipped biology in school? I would suspect that its highly unlikly that more than one Corn Snake exisits in the area.

The rabbits in Australia were released in their thousands.
Nope: 12

Skepticfiles Link said:
In 1859, 12 wild rabbits, Oryctolagus cuniculus, were imported from England. By 1886 their descendents were colonizing new areas of southeastern Australia at the rate of 66 miles a year in all directions.
I'm with 308Mate and Andy Zarse.
Isn't this ignoring the fact that the snake had already been living outside for 12 years? Surely if it was going to breed and launch an attack on Sheffield it would have done it by now? ... imagine the OP's parents hand't found the snake - how would the situation now been any different?

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Cracking story! I really don't think in this case one cornsnake in a garden is going to cause many problems!

It does make me think of the time I saw Wallabies out in the Peak district, a pond full of Terrapins and a colony of Hamsters in a Wood!

porcupineprince

623 posts

188 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Brilliant story.

As has been said, i think it'd be great to set up a camera for a few weeks and record the fella.

Might be able to see exactly what he is eating.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

211 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Cool story! thumbup

otolith

56,595 posts

206 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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When I was a student living in a freezing farmhouse in Wales, one of my housemates had a garter snake, which escaped after I didn't close the lid properly. Turned up about a month later, none the worse of wear, hiding under the cooker.

Lagerlout

1,810 posts

238 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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ArtVandelay said:
V8ish said:
Just had to share this with someone!! Nothing to do with cars but thought you maybe interested??

When I was 14 I lost my corn snake, can't remember exactley how but you know how they are. I still have the number two (bought at the same time) and I'm now 26. Tuesday I got a call from my mum (where I was living at the time).

"Your not going to belive what I have just found in the Rockery!!"

I honestly had to drive straight to my parents to see if it was true! Sure enough there was sam sat there is a cool box, my mum had caught him and had got him in the kitchen. I was absolulty gob smacked that this snake had survived outside for 12 years and especially given the recent snow spell in the UK! His condition wasn't that bad with just a few scuffs and a bit of a light scab on his mouth although he nose was grazed. He wasn't as big as my current well fed snake although he was still a decent size.

Upon further investigation we concluded he had been living under the rocks around the rockery and had formed a section of tunnels - my dad had been putting rat poisen there for years thinking that was what was causing the smooth trackes in and out.

They have chickens near the pond and my dad had noticed occasionally an egg was smashed on the flor but assumed it was the chickens doing this - |I'm convinced it was sam along with teh occasional mouse of even gold fish from the pond????

After keeping him for two days I decided he was far two wild to go with my other snake;seth. he went for anything moving and was doing himself damage knocking his head on the glass I put over the top to cover the box. I gave him a mouse but he didnt want to eat. After much debate we decided to let him go again. The reason behind this was simple - he was now a wild snake and survived for 12 years (still cant get over that!) so would be totallu unfair to now put him in a box for the rest of his days. My parents are happy to let him help himself to an egg now and again and agree he must have kept the mice down. They even have some frozen mice to put by his tunnels every so often.

As soon as we put him within 10 feet of his home he went stright into his tunnels - he knew exactely where he was going!!

Just goes to show how tough these snakes are - I have complete resepct for him and hope to see him soon one day - WHAT A LEGEND!!!



Edited by V8ish on Monday 29th March 20:51
That is rather amazing like, I can't see my bearded dragon lasting long in the wild, he'd just go to sleep under the sun hehe
My wife has a bearded clam that's lasted about 35 years out in the wild. Is that unusual?

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