seem to have gained a hedgehog

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Nightmare

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286 months

Tuesday 30th November 2010
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well yesterday we found a little hedgehog wandering around the garden at about midday and enthusiastically failing to find anything in the frozen ground. Decided it probably wanted to be bothered so went and weighed it - only 240 grams. poor hedgehog.

So i now have said teeny hedgehog in a large cardboard box with a shoebox in it to hide in and some dog food and water. Its had 3 plates of dog food so far so seems to have decided it isnt all that stressed by the experience. Hopefully can fatten him up enough over winter and let him out again in spring. Luckily i have mealworms, locusts and crickets for feeding the dragon so it can have some of them too.

tis tres sweet

any advice or thoughts welcomed!

(no that isnt it but i like that pic!)

RB Will

9,686 posts

242 months

Tuesday 30th November 2010
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We did this a couple of time when I was younger.
The hedgehogs were looking a bit ill and slow so took them to the vet, one had lots of ticks so they were removed and we looked after them in our old rabbits hutch for a week or so then sent them on their way.

netstar

155 posts

211 months

Tuesday 30th November 2010
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http://www.sttiggywinkles.org.uk/

These people are always willing to offer advice over the phone if you need it.

adycav

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219 months

Nightmare

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286 months

Tuesday 30th November 2010
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shall i buy it a hamster wheel? Can you get big ones?

Fun Bus

17,911 posts

220 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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If you do, I'd love to see pics of that!

balders118

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170 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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Nightmare said:
shall i buy it a hamster wheel? Can you get big ones?
Yeah, the rat ones are massive.

The Nur

9,168 posts

187 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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Congratulations, have yourself a cool little pet

blueg33

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226 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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My son works in a wildlife rescue centre and hospital. Hedgehog care is one of his big tasks so I will ask him when he gets in.

On the face of it, the weight of yours seems very low.


Haliatus

331 posts

174 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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I know if under 600grams and they won't survive the winter. But loads on care on internet and give tiggywinkles a call too.

Nightmare

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286 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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well it's now been with us for 3 days....just weighed it and it's now 320g - so going in the right direction (it felt noticeably warmer and tubbier too)

I shall get it a wheel cos I think it will be funny - and i don't see how its gonna get much exercise otherwise.



(apologies for crappy phone pic)

Nightmare

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Thursday 2nd December 2010
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balders118 said:
Nightmare said:
shall i buy it a hamster wheel? Can you get big ones?
Yeah, the rat ones are massive.
ta! wow you can spend 40 quid on a wheel for a pet rat!! doesnt even have an engine.

balders118

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170 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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Nightmare said:
balders118 said:
Nightmare said:
shall i buy it a hamster wheel? Can you get big ones?
Yeah, the rat ones are massive.
ta! wow you can spend 40 quid on a wheel for a pet rat!! doesnt even have an engine.
Ha, thats nothing! My gerbil cage cost me nearly 100 notes!

Mobile Chicane

20,910 posts

214 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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Poor little thing.

Just avoid handling it, else it will become dependent on you. Also if you have (say) a garage / shed where you can keep it and hide food for it to 'find', that will help keep its natural instincts going.

blueg33

36,530 posts

226 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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Hedgehog feeding and wildlife rescuce worker son now home his advice is as follows:

Mix puppy food with water until gloopy and then serve this with good quality chunky dog food in 50/50 ratio

Dog biscuits soaked in water are also good food.

Fresh water changed every day. And change the food daily too. Feed once a day.

Where are you keeping it? It will need something to hide under.

If its weight starts to fall again, get it to your local wildlife rescue centre as it will need intravenous fluids.

It may be best to take him to wildlife rescue place anyway tbh

Edited by blueg33 on Thursday 2nd December 20:34


Edited by blueg33 on Thursday 2nd December 20:36

Nightmare

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286 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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hiya - thanks for asking your son and thanks for his advice

he's currently gaining weight and seems happy enough (i have been keeping unusual things for about 20 years so hopefully should do okay, and i know the shelter local to me is really busy currently)

thanks for food advice - have been feeding it pretty much that, but added in some meal worms and crickets which it seems to rather like. he's in a 5 foot x 3 foot box, with a shoe box to hide in - he's made a nest in it out of shredded paper, straw and bits of towel smile

got a bowl of water, which we're changing every day, and have been feeding early evening and then putting in another bowl of food before going to bed (which has been eaten by morning) Can i accidentally overfeed it easily does he know?

cheers
Night

blueg33

36,530 posts

226 months

Friday 3rd December 2010
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I will check on the over feeding. Mealworms and crickets are very good apparently.

Also hedgehogs are pretty letheragic unless they are foraging, my son says don't spend too much on a wheel as it may never be used. He will need some space for exercise, can you make a run for him?

steviepwildlife

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162 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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Hi Nightmare,
You've received some great advice from blueg33 and from your posts it seems the little one is doing fabulously.
Having checked your profile I notice that you are in Hertfordshire, and as I work as a Wildlife Rescuer in Surrey for Wildlife Aid (http://www.wildlifeaid.com), I've added some contact numbers below for you on local wildlife rescue centres in your county. Please phone them for advice; winter Hedgehog youngsters can be harder to rear than the spring babies and need more care. Please check his weight daily, any loss of weight or no weight gain, contact a centre as soon as possible. Hedgehogs do suffer from worms and a few other conditions that would require medical attention from professionals working with wildlife
I feel the most important message to you is; This Hedgehog is a wild animal. As cute and cuddly he may seem, please do not treat him as a pet. At some point in the future, from your posts, you will be releasing him. For him to have the best chance of survival in the wild, he needs to stay as wild as possible. You could inadvertently be signing his death warrant if he becomes too domesticated and humanised.
It is a great thing you are doing, looking after this little fella, however, please take the advice and remember there are professional organisations out the who do what you are doing all the time and they are there for advice should you need it.

Bishops Stortford - Herts Hogline - 07956 698946
Hemel Hempstead Swancare - 01442 251961
Royston Willersmill Wildlife Sanctuary - 01763 262226
...and you can always contact me for advice steve@wildlifeaid.com

Enjoy the little hedgehog and well done for what you have done so far
Steve

Nightmare

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286 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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Hi Steve,

thanks very much for the post, welcome to Pistonheads and top man working as a wildlife rescuer....just out of interest (as you're in Surrey), do you know Andrew Cleave at Bramley Frith et al? used to work there in summer hols doing dormice surveys and the like smile

MrsN is doing a hedgehog weight chart - she likes graphs - so will put up over the next few weeks! First weighing was 249g, 4 days later was 320. We'll prob weigh again tomorrow, but I am very conscious of your concerns on domesticating it by accident - so will handle minimally. he's very bright eyed, snuffly nosed and tidy, plus its outputs are pretty normal (christ how much can one hoglet produce??) so will use that as a bit of a guide too.....they're not the most nervous of animals anyway, and I really dont want to scupper its chances when released.

making it a run would be possible....shame it produces quite so much mess with quite such enthusiasm...but yeah I get the feeling that otherwise its going to do cock-all bar sleep and eat!

just need to ensure the pythons cant get into the room he's in and all will be well!


HiAsAKite

2,367 posts

249 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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Aren't they supposed to be hibernating at this time of year? Am guessing its either been woken or didn't find anywhere to hibernate?