Grim towns you've visited lately...

[dr.sickman]

Andy Zarse said:

Anyhow, this little conversation is quite intuitive; you are displaying the parochial attitudes simply typical of a Surreyite: How very dare anyone disagree with your vision of Eden! Well I think it's a horrid contempible place and nothing you say will ever change my mind.

Spot on!

ETA not about the chap you're handbagging with. Just about Surreyites in general. Standing surveying their gravelled land in slippers, next to their Mock Ionian pillared frontages.

Edited by dr.sickman on Wednesday 21st May 13:14

[Fatbloke]

9 pages in and i do not believe it has been mentioned


HARTLEPOOL, oh dear lord god

HARTLEPOOL

[Jason_W]

dmitsi said:

Jason_W said:

8Ace said:

maxrider said:

swerni said:

Andy Zarse said:

Stuff about Surrey

I think it's just envy.

he can't afford to live there so hates the place, makes him feel better

I'm amazed anyone can afford to live there, we stayed in a hotel in Richmond and there was a property guide in the room which we had a flip through.

fk me! A million plus buys sod all! And who the hell can afford £5k a MONTH to rent?

I don't think you can count Richmond as Surrey. (despite the address) It's still London - and IMO the best part thereof. Lovely place to be.

With Zarse on the rest of the county though. Clarkson had a good rant about it in "Born to be Riled". Something like being full of a bunch of self obsessed NIMBY housewives, busy congratulating themselves at having moved out of London when in actual fact ther're still as much a part of the urban sprawl as Tottenham.

So, you can exclude the bits of Surrey that don't support your point of view?

You guys waxing lyrical about Surrey, stop! This thread is about towns, I think Guildford isn't too bad as towns go, Woking is a bit bland.

I once visted a twon called Porth in the Welsh Valleys, that wasn't a pleasant experience.
Worst town has to be Reading though, surely.

I'm not 'waxing lyrical' about Surrey. In fact, I haven't even offered an opinion on the place.

[methodwares]

Jack Pearson said:

Corby

the only place that I've visited that has seriously disturbed me

[maxrider]

richyb said:

This thread is getting too long to read it all but did someone say Richmond is a grim town to visit? It has to be one of the nicest places in London if not UK.

Nope, I said we had a flip through a property guide in a hotel and I'm amazed anyone can afford to live there.

I agree, it is a lovely place, especially as it's next to Twickenham

[Gretchen]

rhinochopig said:

Surely any town with a T K Max store?

gazza_3 said:

Bedford

There's two there!



Huntingdon at the weekend, have to go again in two weeks, makes my toes curl and bathe in bleach when I get home.

[rhinochopig]

CommanderJameson said:

swerni said:

pbirkett said:

How on earth has Middlesbrough managed to escape this list. Its like something you would see off "Mad Max". Truly depressing place, and I suspect, probably worse than at least 90% of places mentioned on this thread!

Also, Sunderland isn't exactly great either (but not as bad as the Boro). For a small town Blyth is pretty crap too, as is Stanley, Consett, Hebburn, Jarrow and Gateshead.

you mean Middlesbrough.

Think it got a mention earlier

Spent 3 years there.
Redeeming features.

Driving past ICI Billingham and Wilton at night - think they used it in Blade runner.
Right on the edge of the North York Moors

other than that it's bloody grim

Lived there for 3 years.

A wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Ah but did you visit the Club Bongo International

[Andy Zarse]

Jason_W said:

Andy Zarse said:

Jason_W said:

Andy Zarse said:

I'm not overheated, I was just explaining why I don't like it. I think its worst aspect is its resident's total lack of irony and perspicacity. So stop going on about it unless you are prepared to defend it.

I'm not going on about it. Simply curious as to why someone who doesn't live there has so many issues with the place so it would be pointless trying to defend it when you have such hang ups about the county. There's no way I'd overcome your prejudices especially when your quoting Clarkson in your description of Surrey.

Alex, I think you may be right.

FFS! I'm not prejudiced about it, my comments are made with a reasonable knowledge of Surrey, so perhaps you could explain to me precisely what I an supposed to have "Pre-judged"?

Nor do I have "hang ups" (whatever a hang up means in this context). I simply don't like the place, so if you care to call that my "having issues" with the place in some sort of condesending manner, then so be it.

I would simply like to query why it is I am not allowed to express my opinion on Surrey? There's loads of places in this thread getting a sgging, why on earth should risible Surrey be exempt from it?

Anyhow, this little conversation is quite intuitive; you are displaying the parochial attitudes simply typical of a Surreyite: How very dare anyone disagree with your vision of Eden! Well I think it's a horrid contempible place and nothing you say will ever change my mind.

Oh dear, blood pressure is definitely raised. At the risk of repeating myself I know I'm not going to 'change your mind' but it is amusing to see someone go off the clock as you're doing over something so trivial. I was simply trying to get to the bottom of your issues with Surrey. Its not a town but a county as per the thread title, so you've gone out of your way to vent your feelings yet you constantly deny having any prejudices or hang ups about the place. I just find irrational posts like yours odd, that's all.

Irrational? My blood pressure remains as always a lovely 120/80, smack in the middle of the dial. I'm simply expressing my exasperation with you. Oh ye of little imagination! It has obviously never occured to you that anyone would ever see Surrey as anywhere other than a Valhallah-on-earth. Well I don't, yet apparently I am not allowed to express an opinion without having unpleasant adjectives hurled in my direction.

Anyway, you're the one who keeps biting, ducky! Clearly I've said some things to rankle you so. Oh and why don't you try answering the question, what have I said that is "prejudiced". Could it be that you haven't a clue what the word really means?

[Vixpy1]

Stockport and Barking...

Grim.. really Grim.

[gibbos3]

CREWE, great place to come from, terrible place to go to.

[Andy Zarse]

Alex said:

Andy Zarse said:

Okay. Name another English county (other than Cheshire) further up its own backside than Surrey and I will give you ten pounds!

But you still haven't said what you dislike about Surrey. And "up its own backside" doesn't count! Pointedly, Cheshire is also perceived to be an enclave of Middle England.

I can only suggest you listen to Hersham Boys by Sham 69...


"It’s easy to mock Cheshire, but then that’s hardly a reason not to. Cheshire is mock everything: mock gentility, mock Tudor Gregorian, mock family, mock style, mock casual and mock happiness. Cheshire thumbs its nose job at mockery. More Ferraris call this twisty lane, 30mph place home than anywhere else in Britain. There’s more champagne sprayed over Alderley Edge than anywhere else in Britain. There are more millionaires to the square mile here than anywhere else in Britain. And every garden gnome, carriage lamp and novelty door chime here has been earned, if not entirely paid for. This is Hello! Country, Posh-and-Becksville, Cheshire twinned with Dynasty, a faux Florida with rain - AAGill.

[GreatGranny]

Mr POD said:

Runcorn, Widnes, St Helens, Oldham, Bolton, Preston, Chorley, Warrington, Kirkby, Birkenhead, Ellesmere Port, Chester, Deeside, Prestatyn, Wrexham, Runcorn again. Burnley, Nelson, Colne, Blackburn, Runcorn again, Keighley, Runcorn again, Manchester, Maccelesfield, Knutford, Stoke on Trent, and Runcorn again

All of these places are NOT WORTH a trip out, but Runcorn is TOP of the worst Northwest Towns in my humble oppinion.

The centre of Chester is ok within the wall, no idea what the other bits are like. Knutsford has a wierd mix of super rich and rough as you like. I grew up near to Warrington and it has a certain charm! Home of kerry catona.

I was brought up in the arse end of Cheshire, the north bit bordering Lancashire. Its a world away from the southern Manchester part. Infact going to a wedding in Prestbury (Rooney lives there) next week which might be interesting. I am expecting lots of ladies called Ginny, Lydia and Sophia.

[Jason_W]

Andy Zarse said:

Jason_W said:

Andy Zarse said:

Jason_W said:

Andy Zarse said:

I'm not overheated, I was just explaining why I don't like it. I think its worst aspect is its resident's total lack of irony and perspicacity. So stop going on about it unless you are prepared to defend it.

I'm not going on about it. Simply curious as to why someone who doesn't live there has so many issues with the place so it would be pointless trying to defend it when you have such hang ups about the county. There's no way I'd overcome your prejudices especially when your quoting Clarkson in your description of Surrey.

Alex, I think you may be right.

FFS! I'm not prejudiced about it, my comments are made with a reasonable knowledge of Surrey, so perhaps you could explain to me precisely what I an supposed to have "Pre-judged"?

Nor do I have "hang ups" (whatever a hang up means in this context). I simply don't like the place, so if you care to call that my "having issues" with the place in some sort of condesending manner, then so be it.

I would simply like to query why it is I am not allowed to express my opinion on Surrey? There's loads of places in this thread getting a sgging, why on earth should risible Surrey be exempt from it?

Anyhow, this little conversation is quite intuitive; you are displaying the parochial attitudes simply typical of a Surreyite: How very dare anyone disagree with your vision of Eden! Well I think it's a horrid contempible place and nothing you say will ever change my mind.

Oh dear, blood pressure is definitely raised. At the risk of repeating myself I know I'm not going to 'change your mind' but it is amusing to see someone go off the clock as you're doing over something so trivial. I was simply trying to get to the bottom of your issues with Surrey. Its not a town but a county as per the thread title, so you've gone out of your way to vent your feelings yet you constantly deny having any prejudices or hang ups about the place. I just find irrational posts like yours odd, that's all.

Irrational? My blood pressure remains as always a lovely 120/80, smack in the middle of the dial. I'm simply expressing my exasperation with you. Oh ye of little imagination! It has obviously never occured to you that anyone would ever see Surrey as anywhere other than a Valhallah-on-earth. Well I don't, yet apparently I am not allowed to express an opinion without having unpleasant adjectives hurled in my direction.

Anyway, you're the one who keeps biting, ducky! Clearly I've said some things to rankle you so. Oh and why don't you try answering the question, what have I said that is "prejudiced". Could it be that you haven't a clue what the word really means?

I've just been asking simple questions as to why you're so irrational about the subject but then again, as you use the phrase 'ducky', this probably explains your lack of reasoning. Suggest you re-read this thread when you've calmed down a bit and you'll see my point about prejudice because all you've offered up are re-runs of Clarkson/Gill sound bites - nothing concrete.

[8Ace]

Actually that was me. And the Gill quote was about Cheshire. 0/10.

[pawsmcgraw]

Bolsover<shudders at the thought>

[Alex]

Andy Zarse said:

Alex said:

Andy Zarse said:

Okay. Name another English county (other than Cheshire) further up its own backside than Surrey and I will give you ten pounds!

But you still haven't said what you dislike about Surrey. And "up its own backside" doesn't count! Pointedly, Cheshire is also perceived to be an enclave of Middle England.

I can only suggest you listen to Hersham Boys by Sham 69...


"It’s easy to mock Cheshire, but then that’s hardly a reason not to. Cheshire is mock everything: mock gentility, mock Tudor Gregorian, mock family, mock style, mock casual and mock happiness. Cheshire thumbs its nose job at mockery. More Ferraris call this twisty lane, 30mph place home than anywhere else in Britain. There’s more champagne sprayed over Alderley Edge than anywhere else in Britain. There are more millionaires to the square mile here than anywhere else in Britain. And every garden gnome, carriage lamp and novelty door chime here has been earned, if not entirely paid for. This is Hello! Country, Posh-and-Becksville, Cheshire twinned with Dynasty, a faux Florida with rain - AAGill.

Why do you dislike Surrey in your own words? It seems that you have decided you should dislike Surrey, but you don't know why. I know it's trendy amongst the chattering classes to knock the middle classes and "Daily Mail" readers, but that doesn't change the fact that Surrey is a very nice place to live, mostly populated with decent, hard-working people.

[Mastiff]

GreatGranny said:

Home of kerry catona.

Game Over.

Thank you for playing.

[Jason_W]

8Ace said:

Actually that was me. And the Gill quote was about Cheshire. 0/10.

Sorry, you've lost me. What was you?

[rihsabramo]

robbo1 said:

Lucky my childhood home is 15 minutes from the Snake Pass (if I get my foot down)......

Edited by robbo1 on Tuesday 20th May 22:58

My daily commute

[Andy Zarse]

Jason_W said:

Andy Zarse said:

Jason_W said:

Andy Zarse said:

Jason_W said:

Andy Zarse said:

I'm not overheated, I was just explaining why I don't like it. I think its worst aspect is its resident's total lack of irony and perspicacity. So stop going on about it unless you are prepared to defend it.

I'm not going on about it. Simply curious as to why someone who doesn't live there has so many issues with the place so it would be pointless trying to defend it when you have such hang ups about the county. There's no way I'd overcome your prejudices especially when your quoting Clarkson in your description of Surrey.

Alex, I think you may be right.

FFS! I'm not prejudiced about it, my comments are made with a reasonable knowledge of Surrey, so perhaps you could explain to me precisely what I an supposed to have "Pre-judged"?

Nor do I have "hang ups" (whatever a hang up means in this context). I simply don't like the place, so if you care to call that my "having issues" with the place in some sort of condesending manner, then so be it.

I would simply like to query why it is I am not allowed to express my opinion on Surrey? There's loads of places in this thread getting a sgging, why on earth should risible Surrey be exempt from it?

Anyhow, this little conversation is quite intuitive; you are displaying the parochial attitudes simply typical of a Surreyite: How very dare anyone disagree with your vision of Eden! Well I think it's a horrid contempible place and nothing you say will ever change my mind.

Oh dear, blood pressure is definitely raised. At the risk of repeating myself I know I'm not going to 'change your mind' but it is amusing to see someone go off the clock as you're doing over something so trivial. I was simply trying to get to the bottom of your issues with Surrey. Its not a town but a county as per the thread title, so you've gone out of your way to vent your feelings yet you constantly deny having any prejudices or hang ups about the place. I just find irrational posts like yours odd, that's all.

Irrational? My blood pressure remains as always a lovely 120/80, smack in the middle of the dial. I'm simply expressing my exasperation with you. Oh ye of little imagination! It has obviously never occured to you that anyone would ever see Surrey as anywhere other than a Valhallah-on-earth. Well I don't, yet apparently I am not allowed to express an opinion without having unpleasant adjectives hurled in my direction.

Anyway, you're the one who keeps biting, ducky! Clearly I've said some things to rankle you so. Oh and why don't you try answering the question, what have I said that is "prejudiced". Could it be that you haven't a clue what the word really means?

I've just been asking simple questions as to why you're so irrational about the subject but then again, as you use the phrase 'ducky', this probably explains your lack of reasoning. Suggest you re-read this thread when you've calmed down a bit and you'll see my point about prejudice because all you've offered up are re-runs of Clarkson/Gill sound bites - nothing concrete.

What a quaint display of ire. You're not making a shred of sense old chap, you appear to have become catatonic, showing classic signs of acute psychomotor disturbance. Now, take a deep breath, count to ten and we'll start again. All I'm asking is how am I prejudiced? If you can explain that, perhaps you'll also be kind enough to define why you consider this to be a bad thing.

Please realise that you are dealing with an apparent dimwit here, so I'll need you to spell things out to me in pretty simple terms.

Oh, and whilst nobody has mentioned any quotes from Clarkson, not so far at least, I do think Gill puts it so beautifully, far better than I could ever enunciate. Have some more Gill on Cheshire, it applies equally to Surrey, indeed the words are entirely interchangeable.

"Welcome to Cheshire. More precisely, that golden triangle of Cheshire that stretches between Prestbury, Alderley Edge and Wilmslow, the suburban trim’n’tanned aspirational nirvana that is the Virginia Water of the north. In a newsagent we buy a copy of Cheshire Life, a glossy magazine that yearns for a question mark after the title. It’s thick with ads for cars, bridal photographers, fitted kitchens and private schools, and looks like a spoof of a 1980s Tatler. Hundreds of social pages with passport photos of identical radioactively glowing women in white hair worn as a loose chignon for the evenings, holding flutes of champagne, their grinning husbands in designer dinner jackets with that dash of stand-out-from-the-crowd personality that only a brocade waistcoat and Day-Glo bow tie give you. My favourite article was on Dee Cattom, a sad but cosmetically smiling lady who says, “I’m 45 going on 25,” in the mistaken belief that it’s clever and amusing. Dee was, as she readily admits, so desperate to join Cheshire society (“beautiful county, beautiful people”) that she had herself built in Cheshire’s image. “I’ve had a brow lift, nose job, tummy tuck, jaw re-set and gone from 32AA to 34DD.” She’s also been fitted with a yellow Lotus Elise number plate, S111 EXY, which at £27,000 cost only the skin off her nose more than the plastic surgery. “I don’t regret one minute under the surgeon’s knife. Now I really feel as if I belong here in Cheshire.” There’s really no answer to that." - AA Gill.