The return of 'Fat chicken kid'.

The return of 'Fat chicken kid'.

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Cara van Man

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29,977 posts

253 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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WorAl said:
CVM does your better half also notice this childs behaviour BTW?
Yes, she did. We discussed it in the car on the way home also.

She was too polite to say anything as the mother is a 'friend' of hers. I, however was a bit pissed and couldn't
Stop myself reacting to the human lardball.

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

229 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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Good work on the rant CVM.

LMAO at G getting the arse ache about you implying he was a lard arse too.

Smacking kids is like everything else in life. Ok in moderation. I don't do it very often but occasionally it's the best way of getting the message across, and moving on. Rather than pissing about with sending to rooms, TV bans and all sorts of other punishments (which we also employ) when things can be dealt with more easily and quickly with a short sharp shock.

Cara van Man

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29,977 posts

253 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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Rocksteadyeddie said:
LMAO at G getting the arse ache about you implying he was a lard arse too.
No way? I hadn't noticed.

hehe

Maybe his blood sugar levels are low and it's making him kranky.

Edited by Cara van Man on Thursday 5th August 12:57

sleep envy

62,260 posts

251 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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Cara van Man said:
sleep envy said:
Cara van Man said:
The disgusting little porkbelly then pushed the mountain of food into his well exercised jaws until most of it was gone before pushing his way to the front again. .
I've seen you eat - you're just jealous he's got sharper, pointier elbows than you
I dont think so! His elbows had cellulite wink
that maybe the case but you're the only person I've seen that eats with two forks

Cara van Man

Original Poster:

29,977 posts

253 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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sleep envy said:
Cara van Man said:
sleep envy said:
Cara van Man said:
The disgusting little porkbelly then pushed the mountain of food into his well exercised jaws until most of it was gone before pushing his way to the front again. .
I've seen you eat - you're just jealous he's got sharper, pointier elbows than you
I dont think so! His elbows had cellulite wink
that maybe the case but you're the only person I've seen that eats with two forks
rofl

Cheeky .

They were Sporks.

WorAl

10,877 posts

190 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Cara van Man said:
WorAl said:
CVM does your better half also notice this childs behaviour BTW?
Yes, she did. We discussed it in the car on the way home also.

She was too polite to say anything as the mother is a 'friend' of hers. I, however was a bit pissed and couldn't
Stop myself reacting to the human lardball.
I was just wondering if it was a bloke thing, like a lower tollerance with others kids or something? As I'm the same.

WorAl

10,877 posts

190 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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zakelwe said:
Must have been about 30 items in those bags. The suspension seemed to settle lower as it happened.
Hi Andy, you know how you're always a pedantic arse?

Well, I just thought I'd ask you something, did the suspension really look like it settled lower? I mean really, was it actually visibly lower? No doubt it would have moved, but only very slightly, I doubt it would have been enought to see.
Or did you just add that in for comedy effect?

Just wondering smile

Mobile Chicane

20,874 posts

214 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Jeebus. Observe the middle-classes-and-their-brats in Waitrose.

Those with long curly hair allowed to run amok because to discipline them in any way would be to 'impede their creativity'.

fk that, when a good hard smack will do. I wish I were able to deliver it.

Meanwhile a glare that could harden concrete will have to 'do'.

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

183 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Does Optrex noticeably affect the taste of chicken?

Buzz word

2,028 posts

211 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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zakelwe said:
thanks to large 4x4's they can become human blimps.
It only gets worse. I saw a docmentary on it.




arfur sleep

1,166 posts

221 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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you can blame the parents and the kids, in most cases they are both at fault.

i know a family who are utter mouth breathing, salad dodging, soap avoiding, work shy, benefit thieving scum - of their brood (but yes of course, they have 7) 6 are clones of their parents however one of their children is polite, intelligent and well mannered.
Same environment, same parents. Go figure.

i know a family of upper middle-class stock; father is a barrister, mother a deputy head at a well regarded private school. Child 1 is FCK incarnate yet child 2 is sweet natured, friendly and likeable. Same environment, same parents. Go figure.

Everyone is different and you cannot label all kids bad or good or all parents bad or good.

Ladyhayles

1,113 posts

191 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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I have never and probably will never understand the whole "you can't smack children" argument.

I do not ever intend to have kids because I personally have not one single maternal instinct in my body and my child tolerance level is extremely low. Can't stand the noisy, snot-stained critters.

However, myself and my brother were raised on the knowledge that if you did something wrong you'd receive a smack and a stern telling off. We have both matured into polite, well adjusted individuals. My brother is a father himself now and his daughter is also very polite and I can only recall one situation where he has actually given her a light smack but she generally doesn't misbehave anyway.

Now I have friends that believe that smacking is wrong and that they should have "a discussion" with their children if they get out of line. Their children are vile and should not be allowed to integrate with society on any level.

So I really can't understand why giving a child a smack is wrong. Obviously I'm not condoning abusing a child or taking it too far by using a belt or an object to beat them with but a short sharp shock clearly does the trick.

Also you can't tell me that 90% of the people on here were not given a smack as a child if they did something wrong, that's just how it was done! Don't really recall when I was younger of continual reports of teenagers stabbing people and bringing neighbourhoods to their knees with their unruly and threatening behaviour.

But clearly as I don't have kids I know I'll get shouted down by some tree-hugging parent who believes their offspring should not be disciplined in such a way because apparently smacking a child is the modern day equivalent to committing mass murder!

shoggoth1

815 posts

267 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Mobile Chicane said:
Jeebus. Observe the middle-classes-and-their-brats in Waitrose.

Those with long curly hair allowed to run amok because to discipline them in any way would be to 'impede their creativity'.

fk that, when a good hard smack will do. I wish I were able to deliver it.

Meanwhile a glare that could harden concrete will have to 'do'.
Aye, it's a toss up between which is worse really. The above or going to the likes of Asda with some badly tattooed behemoth screaming at little Tyson to 'shut the fk up'.

snowy slopes

38,912 posts

189 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Ladyhayles said:
I have never and probably will never understand the whole "you can't smack children" argument.

I do not ever intend to have kids because I personally have not one single maternal instinct in my body and my child tolerance level is extremely low. Can't stand the noisy, snot-stained critters.

However, myself and my brother were raised on the knowledge that if you did something wrong you'd receive a smack and a stern telling off. We have both matured into polite, well adjusted individuals. My brother is a father himself now and his daughter is also very polite and I can only recall one situation where he has actually given her a light smack but she generally doesn't misbehave anyway.

Now I have friends that believe that smacking is wrong and that they should have "a discussion" with their children if they get out of line. Their children are vile and should not be allowed to integrate with society on any level.

So I really can't understand why giving a child a smack is wrong. Obviously I'm not condoning abusing a child or taking it too far by using a belt or an object to beat them with but a short sharp shock clearly does the trick.

Also you can't tell me that 90% of the people on here were not given a smack as a child if they did something wrong, that's just how it was done! Don't really recall when I was younger of continual reports of teenagers stabbing people and bringing neighbourhoods to their knees with their unruly and threatening behaviour.

But clearly as I don't have kids I know I'll get shouted down by some tree-hugging parent who believes their offspring should not be disciplined in such a way because apparently smacking a child is the modern day equivalent to committing mass murder!
Sadly not mass murder, its a far worse crime than that and if it isnt punishable by death, then it downright should be! This is the sort of mentality of lots of parents today, not all, but i would guess about 95%. Thats why, when little johnny gets to be the same size as the parents and gives them a slap, they cant do fk all about it as it is way to late for that then, they should have done it when they had they chance.


And isnt it funny, how the very same people who dont physically discipline their children, then claim the children to be angels and paragons of modern society, usually after they have carved up some poor unfortunate person

Amateurish

7,771 posts

224 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Smacking children is basically an abuse of power and a loss of control. It's not acceptable to smack another adult (unless consensual obviously) so it certainly shouldn't be acceptable towards a vulnerable person which a parent has a duty to care for.

I was smacked very occasionally as a child. I thought it was wrong then, and still do now. It only happened when my parents lost self-control and I could tell at the time. It certainly did not help matters.

If a friend smacked their kids, I would certainly think less of them.

Ladyhayles

1,113 posts

191 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Amateurish said:
Smacking children is basically an abuse of power and a loss of control. It's not acceptable to smack another adult (unless consensual obviously) so it certainly shouldn't be acceptable towards a vulnerable person which a parent has a duty to care for.

I was smacked very occasionally as a child. I thought it was wrong then, and still do now. It only happened when my parents lost self-control and I could tell at the time. It certainly did not help matters.

If a friend smacked their kids, I would certainly think less of them.
My parents never showed a loss of control when my brother and I were smacked. It was always administered in a calm way without shouting and hollering. We would be told to behave, which we usually ignored, usually asked a second time, we still ignored them and then there would be the short sharp shock. That was never ignored and we knew we'd crossed the line. As a child I had no concept of someone losing self-control!

Silver940

3,961 posts

229 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Kids being allowed to Queue jump really annoys me, I have always made a point to mine that they wait their turn. Quite happy to step in and say something when kids do jump in.

Caused quite a stir recently when my kids were queuing for a climbing wall. Couple of others went to push in with their friend and I politely told them to wait their turn, at which point fat mum starts to encourage them pushing in, kids doing it I can understand a bit but mothers encouraging it furious few words said and the friend made his way back down the queue.

Cheered the place up...

loafer123

15,465 posts

217 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Silver940 said:
Kids being allowed to Queue jump really annoys me, I have always made a point to mine that they wait their turn. Quite happy to step in and say something when kids do jump in.

Caused quite a stir recently when my kids were queuing for a climbing wall. Couple of others went to push in with their friend and I politely told them to wait their turn, at which point fat mum starts to encourage them pushing in, kids doing it I can understand a bit but mothers encouraging it furious few words said and the friend made his way back down the queue.

Cheered the place up...
I'm the same - you get the odd mouthy kid/mother, but the rest of the people there who are too afraid to stand up to them are either secretly or overtly cheering!

southendpier

5,272 posts

231 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Ladyhayles said:
I have never and probably will never understand the whole "you can't smack children" argument.

I do not ever intend to have kids because I personally have not one single maternal instinct in my body and my child tolerance level is extremely low. Can't stand the noisy, snot-stained critters.

However, myself and my brother were raised on the knowledge that if you did something wrong you'd receive a smack and a stern telling off. We have both matured into polite, well adjusted individuals. My brother is a father himself now and his daughter is also very polite and I can only recall one situation where he has actually given her a light smack but she generally doesn't misbehave anyway.

Now I have friends that believe that smacking is wrong and that they should have "a discussion" with their children if they get out of line. Their children are vile and should not be allowed to integrate with society on any level.

So I really can't understand why giving a child a smack is wrong. Obviously I'm not condoning abusing a child or taking it too far by using a belt or an object to beat them with but a short sharp shock clearly does the trick.

Also you can't tell me that 90% of the people on here were not given a smack as a child if they did something wrong, that's just how it was done! Don't really recall when I was younger of continual reports of teenagers stabbing people and bringing neighbourhoods to their knees with their unruly and threatening behaviour.

But clearly as I don't have kids I know I'll get shouted down by some tree-hugging parent who believes their offspring should not be disciplined in such a way because apparently smacking a child is the modern day equivalent to committing mass murder!
heheNo one is shouting anyone down. In fact this thread is about 98% pro smacking I reckon.

Read back what you just wrote, stop and think.

You state you are polite and well adjusted; you may well be, but some of the points made in that post and the frankly revolting descriptions, about children, about how you describe your "friends" kids, about current crime compared to the good old days are the rabid rantings of someone who should not be allowed in the vicinity of children let alone have any. Not that you want them anyway.



southendpier

5,272 posts

231 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Here's a thought; for the sake of discussion;

Probably most parents smack their kids. Certainly I know very few who do not.

With all the talk on here non-smacking parents are described as lefty, tree hugging, limp wristed gays:

Would you agree on the above description then that a higher percentage non-working class or working class families smack their kids? You know the disciplinarian tattooed beer drinking sky TV football loving right wing types.

Generally would you also agree that there is a higher chance that these same children will develop into the nasty violent council estate hood rats that none of us like? (Ignoring other socio demographic traits)


Whilst you might not like spoilt little Tarquin from Islington running around Waitrose there is a lower chance that he will stab your Nan on his way to University in 10 years time.






lights touch paper and retires.


Edited by southendpier on Friday 6th August 13:19