Conspiracy Theories for Cynics

Conspiracy Theories for Cynics

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paulguitar

23,991 posts

115 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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CanAm said:
Boobonman said:
Just watched “American Moon”. 3 and a half hours of taking apart the claimed moon landings bit by bit. Pretty comprehensive I thought...
Samples of moon rock were sent to scientists all around the world; nobody has come back and said “it’s just a bit of welsh quartz”!

If there had been any trickery, the Russians would have torn the story to shreds. The only government which suppressed any news of the landings was the Chinese, which is renowned for its honesty and freedom of speech. rolleyes
Another funny thing about the moon conspiracists is that many of them have done so little research that they are actually unaware we've been there on six separate missions. In the end, they were driving cars around up there.

It would be an epic troll if it had all been faked. Perhaps a moon conspiracist can help out here if we have one. Was it only the first landing that was supposed to have been faked, or was it all six?



Halmyre

11,301 posts

141 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Boobonman said:
Just watched “American Moon”. 3 and a half hours of taking apart the claimed moon landings bit by bit. Pretty comprehensive I thought...
Let me guess - waving flags, shadows, and radiation, padded out to the nth degree.

Now try this:

https://www.moonhoaxdebunked.com/

CanAm

9,348 posts

274 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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’Mythbusters’ even put a replica flag in a vacuum chamber to show how it moved - exactly as it did in the moon landing film!

Zirconia

36,010 posts

286 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Halmyre said:
Boobonman said:
Just watched “American Moon”. 3 and a half hours of taking apart the claimed moon landings bit by bit. Pretty comprehensive I thought...
Let me guess - waving flags, shadows, and radiation, padded out to the nth degree.

Now try this:

https://www.moonhoaxdebunked.com/
Chuck in another expert witness.
http://www.clavius.org/index.html

Never seen a comprehensive take apart on the real thing.


anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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What the conspiracy nuts forget is that the moon landing was a race for political superiority, if the Russians had thought for one minute that the Americans had faked it they would have thrown everything they had at proving it and humiliated the U.S. I am somewhat embarrassed to admit I did used to be a conspiracy theorist (smoked far too much weed, unsurprisingly when I stopped I was able to think rationally again) but the moon landings were never in question. It only requires the smallest amount of intelligence to figure out they were real

Boobonman

5,662 posts

194 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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What about the sample of moon rock they sent to the Dutch, that one turned out to be a piece of petrified wood?

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Boobonman said:
What about the sample of moon rock they sent to the Dutch, that one turned out to be a piece of petrified wood?
What about it? Do you believe that is conclusive proof that no one has set foot on the moon?

Zirconia

36,010 posts

286 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Boobonman said:
What about the sample of moon rock they sent to the Dutch, that one turned out to be a piece of petrified wood?
What about it? Cockups happen.

There are many samples that are examined today that pass muster. Science continues to examine it and in a bizarre way, throttles one of the claims intuit vid, all about footprints.

Edit. If you are qualified and have a good reason, you can request a sample to blow this out the water.
https://curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/sampreq/lunaral...

https://curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/sampreq/request...

Edited by Zirconia on Monday 22 June 12:57

CanAm

9,348 posts

274 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Boobonman said:
What about the sample of moon rock they sent to the Dutch, that one turned out to be a piece of petrified wood?
Because it’s not a NASA Moon rock. Everything points to a mistake or to a hoax orchestrated by two Dutch artists in 2006. NASA has never authenticated the “rock” (there are no documents tracing its origins), it’s far too big to be a donated lunar sample, and its background story is nonsensical. It was reportedly donated privately in 1969 to a retired prime minister instead of being given, as was customary, to a representative of the then-current Dutch government; it wasn’t put on public display as a Moon rock would have deserved; and real donated Moon rocks were encapsulated in transparent plastic, while this one is not.


Halmyre

11,301 posts

141 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Boobonman said:
What about the sample of moon rock they sent to the Dutch, that one turned out to be a piece of petrified wood?
Sigh.

http://www.moonhoaxdebunked.com/2017/07/98-how-com...

You'll spend three and a half hours to watch a load of ste about fake moon landings but won't take three and a half minutes to cross-check any of its content?

mko9

2,436 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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CanAm said:
’Mythbusters’ even put a replica flag in a vacuum chamber to show how it moved - exactly as it did in the moon landing film!
That just shows the breadth and depth of the conspiracy! Even Mythbusters are in on it 50 years later!!

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Boobonman said:
What about the sample of moon rock they sent to the Dutch, that one turned out to be a piece of petrified wood?
i imagine so some swapped it to sell./keep

cologne2792

2,133 posts

128 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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SG Collins nailed it pretty conclusively:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs

CanAm

9,348 posts

274 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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mko9 said:
CanAm said:
’Mythbusters’ even put a replica flag in a vacuum chamber to show how it moved - exactly as it did in the moon landing film!
That just shows the breadth and depth of the conspiracy! Even Mythbusters are in on it 50 years later!!
No, Mythbusters were busting the modern conspiracy theorists.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

249 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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CanAm said:
mko9 said:
CanAm said:
’Mythbusters’ even put a replica flag in a vacuum chamber to show how it moved - exactly as it did in the moon landing film!
That just shows the breadth and depth of the conspiracy! Even Mythbusters are in on it 50 years later!!
No, Mythbusters were busting the modern conspiracy theorists.
I am not sure if you quite 'got' that last post or not, but anyway..

Seeing as this thread is about conspiracy theories, I wonder if a program like Mythbusters was to test a theory and conclusively prove a huge conspiracy must actually be true. Would they be really be allowed to broadcast it? I would think it would get canned.

I am not suggesting this has ever happened by the way!

paulguitar

23,991 posts

115 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Shuvi McTupya said:
I am not sure if you quite 'got' that last post or not, but anyway..

Seeing as this thread is about conspiracy theories, I wonder if a program like Mythbusters was to test a theory and conclusively prove a huge conspiracy must actually be true. Would they be really be allowed to broadcast it? I would think it would get canned.

I am not suggesting this has ever happened by the way!
I'm sure they would be delighted if that ever happened because it would be superb TV! I'm sure in the same way, James Randi would be over the moon if anyone ever won the million-dollar prize for proving something paranormal.

It won't happen, of course.





Jazzy Jag

3,443 posts

93 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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paulguitar said:
Another funny thing about the moon conspiracists is that many of them have done so little research that they are actually unaware we've been there on six separate missions. In the end, they were driving cars around up there.

It would be an epic troll if it had all been faked. Perhaps a moon conspiracist can help out here if we have one. Was it only the first landing that was supposed to have been faked, or was it all six?
seven.

whistle

paulguitar

23,991 posts

115 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Jazzy Jag said:
paulguitar said:
Another funny thing about the moon conspiracists is that many of them have done so little research that they are actually unaware we've been there on six separate missions. In the end, they were driving cars around up there.

It would be an epic troll if it had all been faked. Perhaps a moon conspiracist can help out here if we have one. Was it only the first landing that was supposed to have been faked, or was it all six?
seven.

whistle
It's six, isn't it? Or am I due a parrot?

CanAm

9,348 posts

274 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Jazzy Jag said:
paulguitar said:
Another funny thing about the moon conspiracists is that many of them have done so little research that they are actually unaware we've been there on six separate missions. In the end, they were driving cars around up there.

It would be an epic troll if it had all been faked. Perhaps a moon conspiracist can help out here if we have one. Was it only the first landing that was supposed to have been faked, or was it all six?
seven.

whistle
Are you including Apollo 13, which never landed on the moon, or Apollo "18"?
whistle

Jazzy Jag

3,443 posts

93 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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paulguitar said:
Jazzy Jag said:
paulguitar said:
Another funny thing about the moon conspiracists is that many of them have done so little research that they are actually unaware we've been there on six separate missions. In the end, they were driving cars around up there.

It would be an epic troll if it had all been faked. Perhaps a moon conspiracist can help out here if we have one. Was it only the first landing that was supposed to have been faked, or was it all six?
seven.

whistle
It's six, isn't it? Or am I due a parrot?
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1772240/


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