New Teaspoon Advice Please

New Teaspoon Advice Please

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bob1179

14,107 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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DanielSan said:
Let us all welcome the latest spooner to the thread, Welcome bob.
Thank you DanielSan.

I did try another Spooning forum - Classicspoon.com but I found it to be quite contrived and 'cliquey'.

This seems like a very pleasant and friendly place.

RDMcG

19,238 posts

209 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Poisson96 said:
Thankfully it was only the prototype I tested, not the release edition as that never came. However they have released platinum coated spoons under the Katze sub-name (now defunct due to the shocking publicity scandal). Still a completely un-coated spoon for 2015 sounds amazing.....
I have to say that this is a very Eurocentric discussion. There have been some stunningly accurate platinum-coated Krupp knockoffs circulating quietly in Shenzen, China. Rumour is that Krupp themselves , too nervous to be directly implicated, are testing the Chinese market and the reaction has been hugely positive. If first, China, how long before the rest of the world???

oilslick

906 posts

188 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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RDMcG said:
I have to say that this is a very Eurocentric discussion. There have been some stunningly accurate platinum-coated Krupp knockoffs circulating quietly in Shenzen, China. Rumour is that Krupp themselves , too nervous to be directly implicated, are testing the Chinese market and the reaction has been hugely positive. If first, China, how long before the rest of the world???
I'm more concerned about the recent trend of aftermarket plasti-dipping. I've seen several beautiful examples of spoon design ruined by someone trying to 'improve' their collection.

RDMcG

19,238 posts

209 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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oilslick said:
I'm more concerned about the recent trend of aftermarket plasti-dipping. I've seen several beautiful examples of spoon design ruined by someone trying to 'improve' their collection.
Bad, but the new trend among youthful collectors to " improve" spoons by flange-flaring is ruining some classics.

Tallow

1,624 posts

163 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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RDMcG said:
Bad, but the new trend among youthful collectors to " improve" spoons by flange-flaring is ruining some classics.
True, but this has been a problem for some time - as has bowl deepening. The combination of the two together is quite grotesque. In fact, I recall just this weekend at Wakefield seeing an example that had had the flanges flared by approx 15mm, whilst the bowl had been rounded at to a frankly abusrd 29ml capacity. Can you imagine how something like that must have handled at >80rpm?

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

161 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Can someone direct me to the teaspoon detailing thread.

I'm concerned I'm not using my clay bar properly.

A picture by picture guide would be appreciated.

RDMcG

19,238 posts

209 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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The Crack Fox said:
I disagree, Mr McG, surely anything that encourages young 'uns into the spooning fraternity it to be encouraged, even if it means overlooking a few misguided modifications. And besides, didn't you tweak your stirrer as a boy? I remember getting my hands on a 1970's Teachamp XL and thinning the handle down to 5/8ths of it's original diameter, "narrow shafting" we called it back then. Naturally it eventually snapped but it is all part of the learning curve for new spooners, surely?
Ah, there's the nub of it. Years ago an XL was regarded as a daily stirrer. Many were lost due to the uncaring flaring by the young daring. Have you seen the prices of an XL lately?...we need an education programme as a minimum before letting a young flarer at a potential classic. Perhaps a licensing scheme?

Blib

44,345 posts

199 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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We've been down this road several times over the centuries. Here's an example from the court of Louis XIV. There's nothing new under the sun.


NDA

21,715 posts

227 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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It's a shame you chose not to blank out 'Echoes Satx' on that picture.

I hope it doesn't start a thread here on the darker side of collecting along with some customs and practices which should have been abandoned centuries ago.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

169 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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What preparations did those of you that went to Wakefield take and does competitive spooning and stirring cause much wear?

DanielSan

18,851 posts

169 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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Blib said:
We've been down this road several times over the centuries. Here's an example from the court of Louis XIV. There's nothing new under the sun.

The hydrodynamics of that surface in the bowl must make stirring a truly unpredictable experience.

RJO

677 posts

273 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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Blib said:
We've been down this road several times over the centuries. Here's an example from the court of Louis XIV. There's nothing new under the sun.

So good to see proof that one can't say that he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth.

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

213 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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Blib,that is a very interesting artefact. What you may not realize as it's not really shown in this photograph that this spoon has sharpened edges on the front, thus rendering it more a bladed spoon than teaspoon... Closer in intention to the prawn cocktail fripery mentioned above than stirer of finest tea leaves.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

169 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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drivin_me_nuts said:
Blib,that is a very interesting artefact. What you may not realize as it's not really shown in this photograph that this spoon has sharpened edges on the front, thus rendering it more a bladed spoon than teaspoon... Closer in intention to the prawn cocktail fripery mentioned above than stirer of finest tea leaves.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with cocktails, prawn or otherwise. The spoon is obviously a cappuccino model. The holes in the bowl, when correctly calibrated, create cavitation in the beverage and thus generating the required froth to make the head. Not only do the holes create bubbles, but they are also the perfect size to allow chocolate sprinkles to flow freely through without being damaged. The sharpened end flange allows the spoon to be removed cleanly from the cup without disturbing the head. A similar version is available for stirring Guinness. These were supplied to new sellers who hadn't yet mastered the art of pouring the perfect pint and were used to artificially generate a Guinness head.

Cappuccino models were designated C while Guinness models G. There are obviously less G models because they were designed to have a limited shelf and useful life, the idea being that it was a motivation to quickly learn how to pour Guinness.

carlpea

381 posts

141 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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There is no spoon.

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

213 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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Willy Nilly said:
It has nothing whatsoever to do with cocktails, prawn or otherwise. The spoon is obviously a cappuccino model. The holes in the bowl, when correctly calibrated, create cavitation in the beverage and thus generating the required froth to make the head. Not only do the holes create bubbles, but they are also the perfect size to allow chocolate sprinkles to flow freely through without being damaged. The sharpened end flange allows the spoon to be removed cleanly from the cup without disturbing the head. A similar version is available for stirring Guinness. These were supplied to new sellers who hadn't yet mastered the art of pouring the perfect pint and were used to artificially generate a Guinness head.

Cappuccino models were designated C while Guinness models G. There are obviously less G models because they were designed to have a limited shelf and useful life, the idea being that it was a motivation to quickly learn how to pour Guinness.
Well I never! A guinness stirer for the noob pourer. I never knew!

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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The Crack Fox said:
Willy Nilly said:
does competitive spooning and stirring cause much wear?
Your shaft may suffer some wear, but it's mainly the Stirrer himself that needs to be in good shape. I've been working on my wrist muscles for years now - as many posters on PH like to remind me.
Don't forget to trim your thumbnail or you'll notice wearing and a removal of patina after 2-3 hours. This may not matter on your competition beater, but then again it just might.

glenrobbo

35,452 posts

152 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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Not a new teaspoon, but a very rare & highly collectable beauty came in to my possession this weekend.



Perfectly proportioned, this elegant multi-purpose sports model was, I believe, crafted by the skilled artisans at the now defunct Sunnex Spoonmakers Studio in Hartlepool, Teeside, probably around 1980-81.

This is clearly a very rare left-handed model, as evident from the reverse direction of the daringly sculpted spiral vortex generators.

The studio was unfortunately forced to close down in June 1984, when a large number of the production team were convicted of abusing, mistreating and finally murdering some unfortunate monkeys they had happened upon.

Such a shame, as they were just at the peak of their golden period.

Being a right-hander myself, I feel I should pass it on to a left-handed enthusiast, but I'm struggling to put a value on it, as my current catalogues do not list it.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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glenrobbo said:
Being a right-hander myself, I feel I should pass it on to a left-handed enthusiast, but I'm struggling to put a value on it, as my current catalogues do not list it.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
IIRC it was established a few months ago that left handed spoons are classed as a "mobility aid" and are exempt from usual spooning taxes and duties.

For me, personally, tools of "the left" do not excite, and as such their value is for scrap, or for parts (however this practice is slowly gathering momentum in the wider circles). The trailing edge of a lefty mid-range Bana-El makes a fantastic as-new leading edge replacement for a 'Standard' Tenison, for example.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

235 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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Hartlepool in Teesside now?

did you know that the original Sunnex building was badly damaged in the famous German navy raid on Hartlepool in 1914
the SMS Blücher and other German ships being, or course, equipped with guns from - you guessed it - Krupp

conspiracy theories ahoy!