PH invaded by.........lefties?

PH invaded by.........lefties?

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2volvos

660 posts

203 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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Is it impossible to be both left leaning and cynical about all the major UK political parties and still enjoy nattering about old cars?

Poledriver

28,668 posts

196 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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gamefreaks said:
Blue Meanie said:
What is the point of having an opinion on a forum, if everyone thinks the same way. That will make for some dull discussions.
I agree.
You're wrong!

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

194 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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2volvos said:
Is it impossible to be both left leaning and cynical about all the major UK political parties and still enjoy nattering about old cars?
Lefties usually want to throw eggs at people in cars because there destroying the environment, you know giving those trees extra CO2 to breath.....

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

257 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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Petrolhead_Rich said:
2volvos said:
Is it impossible to be both left leaning and cynical about all the major UK political parties and still enjoy nattering about old cars?
Lefties usually want to throw eggs at people in cars because there destroying the environment, you know giving those trees extra CO2 to breath.....
Not correct at all. Being left or right does not mean you HAVE to have a view on one subject. Being left does not mean you are en environmentalist nut job, in the same way that being right does not mean you are a gun toting Christian fundamentalist.

The problem is that labels do not equate to what they are supposed to describe.

br d

8,410 posts

228 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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Blue Meanie said:
Petrolhead_Rich said:
2volvos said:
Is it impossible to be both left leaning and cynical about all the major UK political parties and still enjoy nattering about old cars?
Lefties usually want to throw eggs at people in cars because there destroying the environment, you know giving those trees extra CO2 to breath.....
Not correct at all. Being left or right does not mean you HAVE to have a view on one subject. Being left does not mean you are en environmentalist nut job, in the same way that being right does not mean you are a gun toting Christian fundamentalist.

The problem is that labels do not equate to what they are supposed to describe.
Exactly right. It's also entirely normal to have 'leftish' feelings on certain issues and 'rightist' ones on others. Doesn't make you correct but at least it shows you're thinking.

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

257 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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What is wrong with "methinks"?

snowy slopes

38,945 posts

189 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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Politics is bollix

omgus

7,305 posts

177 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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snowy slopes said:
Politics is bollix
bks shirley. Must be a child of the nulabour education system. wink

For the record, my slightly leaning left tendencies combined with my belief in achieving for yourself make me think that i am neither. I will not vote for the Conservatives because i think CMD is a false shifty little waste of evolution who mirrors Blair in his lack of substance.

I would much prefer a chance to vote for policies individually than for Parties as a whole. We have people to implement things, and then we wouldn't be able to blame anyone for the eventual fk up of the country.

Pesty

42,655 posts

258 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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HHmm where do I fit in then.?

I am a libertarian with slighly left leanings but wants the death penalty back and life meaning life for jay walking

ukwill

8,922 posts

209 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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I often go over to the Guardian website, just for a read through various threads in the comments section.

Some of the stuff is absolutely priceless. hehe

Lefty

16,223 posts

204 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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There's only one Lefty...

wink

2volvos

660 posts

203 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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ukwill said:

I often go over to the Guardian website, just for a read through various threads in the comments section.

Some of the stuff is absolutely priceless. hehe
I often go over to the Telegraph website, just for a read through various threads in the comments section.

Some of the stuff is absolutely priceless. hehe
It can work in equal and opposite direction. If you do spend all your online time in one place, you can get the unrealistic impression that the whole world agrees with you/it. Go to another site and you'll realise there are other folks out there with different opinions as strongly held as yours. Neither wholly right, neither wholly wrong.

Personally, I don't hold with a lot of the opinions held and displayed on PH, which is why I usually stick to the car chat and keep my political opinions to myself. But I didn't realise that you had to check your Tory donors card in to take part. I slightly resent the OP's 'Who let all that riff-raff into the room' type comment.

Gargamel

15,042 posts

263 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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Blue Meanie said:
What is wrong with "methinks"?
It automatically identifies the user as someone who believes they are making a clever and possibly sly dig that is incredibly insightful, they are also probably quite smug that they managed to slip methinks into the dialog.

As a rule of thumb I view methinkers in the same way I view chaps who wear bow ties in daylight hours .....

Edited by Gargamel on Monday 18th October 21:50

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

257 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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Gargamel said:
Blue Meanie said:
What is wrong with "methinks"?
It automatically identifies the user as someone who believes they are making a clever and possibly sly dig that is incerdibly insightful, they are also probably quite smug that they managed to slip methinks into the dialog.

As a rule of thumb I view methinkers in the same way I view chaps who wear bow ties in daylight hours .....
Of course people who say 'chaps'...

ukwill

8,922 posts

209 months

Tuesday 19th October 2010
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2volvos said:
ukwill said:

I often go over to the Guardian website, just for a read through various threads in the comments section.

Some of the stuff is absolutely priceless. hehe
I often go over to the Telegraph website, just for a read through various threads in the comments section.

Some of the stuff is absolutely priceless. hehe
It can work in equal and opposite direction. If you do spend all your online time in one place, you can get the unrealistic impression that the whole world agrees with you/it. Go to another site and you'll realise there are other folks out there with different opinions as strongly held as yours. Neither wholly right, neither wholly wrong.

Personally, I don't hold with a lot of the opinions held and displayed on PH, which is why I usually stick to the car chat and keep my political opinions to myself. But I didn't realise that you had to check your Tory donors card in to take part. I slightly resent the OP's 'Who let all that riff-raff into the room' type comment.
Oh definately - there are nutters on both sides of the political fence!

However, a big difference for me was that in 97, a lot of Tory voters sided with New Labour. In 2010, even after the untold damage/negligence caused by Labour, the consensus from the left appeared to be either vote lib dem (for another attempt at a lib/lab pact), or spoil your vote. Any vote for the Tories was simply out of the question.

I'll never understand that mentality.

There does appear to be a tory bias to this forum. I can only conclude that petrolheads must be, for the most, right of center! smile

dbdb

4,340 posts

175 months

Tuesday 19th October 2010
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I am a car enthusiast and rarely stray into the political parts of Pistonheads. When I do I am always shocked by it and withdraw, vowing not to return. My God, it is far right.

2volvos

660 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th October 2010
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@UKWILL

I think you are right about the anyone but Tory mentality. I'd prefer a None of the Above box on the ballot paper, but then I don't think anyone, or at least anyone with a working knowledge of how states and institutions actually work would get any votes apart from their respective party members.

What's the old saying, it doesn't matter who you vote for, the government always get in.