Where do you buy your clothes?

[bitchstewie]

Can you even imagine how pissed off you'd be if you spilt your dinner down it

[ashleyman]

bhstewie said:

Can you even imagine how pissed off you'd be if you spilt your dinner down it

I think if you’re able to buy a £1600 t shirt, you probably wouldn’t care and your house manager would just replace it without you even knowing.

[BunkMoreland]

bhstewie said:

Thing is stuff like illustrates perfectly what I was trying and perhaps failing to get across.

It's a tee shirt at £410.

There will be more expensive ones available.

Is there anything about it in quality and construction terms that justifies that price or is it quite literally the tag that's in it and the associated costs?

Well its a silk cotton blend. So I imagine its pretty good. But BC is so far above most people even knowing it exists and its that rarity that appeals to the HNW individuals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGDB22dpmwk

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0UQgrFNExc

for some pointers

[ATG]

bhstewie said:

wyson said:

Anyone tried this brand:

https://shop.brunellocucinelli.com/en-gb/men/ready...

Apparently, Mark Zuckerberg gets their grey T shirts linked about. Bargain at £410 a pop.

Thing is stuff like illustrates perfectly what I was trying and perhaps failing to get across.

It's a tee shirt at £410.

There will be more expensive ones available.

Is there anything about it in quality and construction terms that justifies that price or is it quite literally the tag that's in it and the associated costs?

Handmade shoes and suits are expensive by normal high street standards, but they clearly involve a serious amount of time from a skilled craftsman. If you use their price and complexity as a benchmark and find that an off the peg t-shirt or jacket is comparable or more, then I think we can safely say we're into the world of the absurd. Nothing wrong with that if people don't mind paying what they know are absurd prices. But value it ain't.

[Goaty Bill 2]

Louis Balfour said:

Good isn't it.

I use them for gym wear, track suits and that sort of thing.

If I buy denim (rare) Levis

Knits come from two local manufacturers.

Suits, jackets, trousers and coats are bespoke or made to measure.

Shirts Emmett or Eton

Shoes from a variety of English makers

I try to buy quality everything and keep it for years, adjusting as required. With gym wear that isn't really possible, hence Uniqlo,

A breath of fresh air sir.

[shirt]

wyson said:

Here is a Loro Piana T shirt for a smidge over £1600.

https://uk.loropiana.com/en/p/man/polo-and-t-shirt...

There are some youtube videos that show the ridiculous lengths they go to, to develop and source their materials. Because the yield on their top end materials is low, they have to turn to hand making stuff in low numbers, which ups the cost again. However, I am sure there is plenty of markup and as ever, there are diminishing returns.

I don't have experience of top end clothing like this, but would guess mid market brands like Sunspel might be hitting a quality / value price point, like a mid range tyre?! Lol. Don't know, I'd be interested to know as well. I did go into the Loro Piana shop on New Bond Street once, the quality was obvious, but I saw a £10k jacket, kind of went wide eyed and walked out. A touch above my price range!

Edited by wyson on Monday 15th January 20:31

An ex of mine used to buy a fair amount of Loro Piana. Has the price shot up recently, I thought it was maybe 1/4 of that.

She wore a £4k d&g dress to our first date (I found out much later). If I were able to spot this kind of thing I’d have bailed then!

[Louis Balfour]

shirt said:

wyson said:

Here is a Loro Piana T shirt for a smidge over £1600.

https://uk.loropiana.com/en/p/man/polo-and-t-shirt...

There are some youtube videos that show the ridiculous lengths they go to, to develop and source their materials. Because the yield on their top end materials is low, they have to turn to hand making stuff in low numbers, which ups the cost again. However, I am sure there is plenty of markup and as ever, there are diminishing returns.

I don't have experience of top end clothing like this, but would guess mid market brands like Sunspel might be hitting a quality / value price point, like a mid range tyre?! Lol. Don't know, I'd be interested to know as well. I did go into the Loro Piana shop on New Bond Street once, the quality was obvious, but I saw a £10k jacket, kind of went wide eyed and walked out. A touch above my price range!

Edited by wyson on Monday 15th January 20:31

An ex of mine used to buy a fair amount of Loro Piana. Has the price shot up recently, I thought it was maybe 1/4 of that.

I have a couple of suits made from Loro Piana cloth, made to measure by a Savile Row tailor. They cost me about £1300.00 each not that long ago and they are superb. If you shop carefully you can buy superior clothes, made to your exact specification, for a fraction of the ready to wear price.

[wyson]

shirt said:

An ex of mine used to buy a fair amount of Loro Piana. Has the price shot up recently, I thought it was maybe 1/4 of that.

She wore a £4k d&g dress to our first date (I found out much later). If I were able to spot this kind of thing I’d have bailed then!

https://uk.loropiana.com/en/p/man/polo-and-t-shirts/soft-t-shirt-FAF6128?colorCode=7163

£415, similar cotton / silk mix as the Mark Zuckerberg T shirts.
The £1665 t shirts are made from 12 micron merino wool, I presume wool this fine is really rare.

There is a woman who looks high maintenance in one of my kids extra curricular classes. Her clothes don’t have any visible branding but they definitely aren’t high street. Her hair always looks impeccable, like she has regular maintenance blow dry’s in a salon. I’d be worried dating someone like that too! Lol.

Edited by wyson on Tuesday 16th January 16:47

[Timothy Bucktu]

Utterly incomprehensible price tag aside...I do wonder how they wash such, erm, garments. Surely being the world's finest wool wouldn't stop them shrinking instantly when put in Bekos finest clothing reconditioning apparatus? Or maybe they get some poor sod to hand wash them in Evian or something?

[bitchstewie]

Carefully

I think the more serious answer is carefully and in a mesh wash bag.

I don't mind admitting I've bought one for my new stuff which is council compared to stuff like Loro Piana.

The Luca Faloni chinos have arrived today and whilst I don't tend to go around feeling peoples trousers all I do know is these things feel absolutely fking lovely and a step up from anything similar that I've had in the past.

[BunkMoreland]

bhstewie said:

Carefully

I think the more serious answer is carefully and in a mesh wash bag.

This is not something I've heard of. What is it and what's the point?

Quick google suggests anything that says "wash by hand" can be done in the machine if you use a bag? Is that correct?

[MrJuice]

I bet zuck uses and throws. I doubt anything is washed for a second use

[bitchstewie]

BunkMoreland said:

This is not something I've heard of. What is it and what's the point?

Quick google suggests anything that says "wash by hand" can be done in the machine if you use a bag? Is that correct?

If I say it's a mesh bag that you put things in when you wash them I'll sound sarcastic won't I

But it's exactly that.

The idea looks to be that bag gets tossed around the washing machine whilst the clothes inside are hopefully kept a little bit safer.

This kind of thing.

https://www.lakeland.co.uk/23172/2-white-mesh-net-...

I don't think it gets around the basic physics that if you wash something that shouldn't be washed or spin something that shouldn't be spun putting it in one of those won't prevent it getting damaged or ruined.

[BunkMoreland]

bhstewie said:

This kind of thing.

https://www.lakeland.co.uk/23172/2-white-mesh-net-...

I don't think it gets around the basic physics that if you wash something that shouldn't be washed or spin something that shouldn't be spun putting it in one of those won't prevent it getting damaged or ruined.

Thats what I figured, but internet-land made it sound like you could.

Thanks for the info

[the-norseman]

Dont know if its a recent thing but anybody finding that T-Shirts seem to be shorter these days, I've been hitting the gym for a few years now so shoulders,back and chest are slightly bigger than normal but slight movement and belly is out of the bottom, I dont like super baggy T-shirts either so no point buying 1 or 2 sizes bigger. I bought a "longline" T-shirt one but it was stupidly long.

[Magnum 475]

Louis Balfour said:

shirt said:

wyson said:

Here is a Loro Piana T shirt for a smidge over £1600.

https://uk.loropiana.com/en/p/man/polo-and-t-shirt...

There are some youtube videos that show the ridiculous lengths they go to, to develop and source their materials. Because the yield on their top end materials is low, they have to turn to hand making stuff in low numbers, which ups the cost again. However, I am sure there is plenty of markup and as ever, there are diminishing returns.

I don't have experience of top end clothing like this, but would guess mid market brands like Sunspel might be hitting a quality / value price point, like a mid range tyre?! Lol. Don't know, I'd be interested to know as well. I did go into the Loro Piana shop on New Bond Street once, the quality was obvious, but I saw a £10k jacket, kind of went wide eyed and walked out. A touch above my price range!

Edited by wyson on Monday 15th January 20:31

An ex of mine used to buy a fair amount of Loro Piana. Has the price shot up recently, I thought it was maybe 1/4 of that.

I have a couple of suits made from Loro Piana cloth, made to measure by a Savile Row tailor. They cost me about £1300.00 each not that long ago and they are superb. If you shop carefully you can buy superior clothes, made to your exact specification, for a fraction of the ready to wear price.

G&H by any chance? I’ve had a couple by them in Loro Piana cloth too. Reading this made me realise that one of them is now over 15 years old, and still looks as good as the day I got it.

[V 02]

the-norseman said:

Dont know if its a recent thing but anybody finding that T-Shirts seem to be shorter these days, I've been hitting the gym for a few years now so shoulders,back and chest are slightly bigger than normal but slight movement and belly is out of the bottom, I dont like super baggy T-shirts either so no point buying 1 or 2 sizes bigger. I bought a "longline" T-shirt one but it was stupidly long.

Uniqlo Airism T shirt, will never go back to anything else after that.

[Louis Balfour]

Magnum 475 said:

Louis Balfour said:

shirt said:

wyson said:

Here is a Loro Piana T shirt for a smidge over £1600.

https://uk.loropiana.com/en/p/man/polo-and-t-shirt...

There are some youtube videos that show the ridiculous lengths they go to, to develop and source their materials. Because the yield on their top end materials is low, they have to turn to hand making stuff in low numbers, which ups the cost again. However, I am sure there is plenty of markup and as ever, there are diminishing returns.

I don't have experience of top end clothing like this, but would guess mid market brands like Sunspel might be hitting a quality / value price point, like a mid range tyre?! Lol. Don't know, I'd be interested to know as well. I did go into the Loro Piana shop on New Bond Street once, the quality was obvious, but I saw a £10k jacket, kind of went wide eyed and walked out. A touch above my price range!

Edited by wyson on Monday 15th January 20:31

An ex of mine used to buy a fair amount of Loro Piana. Has the price shot up recently, I thought it was maybe 1/4 of that.

I have a couple of suits made from Loro Piana cloth, made to measure by a Savile Row tailor. They cost me about £1300.00 each not that long ago and they are superb. If you shop carefully you can buy superior clothes, made to your exact specification, for a fraction of the ready to wear price.

G&H by any chance? I’ve had a couple by them in Loro Piana cloth too. Reading this made me realise that one of them is now over 15 years old, and still looks as good as the day I got it.

Richard James.

[Goaty Bill 2]

Louis Balfour said:

I have a couple of suits made from Loro Piana cloth, made to measure by a Savile Row tailor. They cost me about £1300.00 each not that long ago and they are superb. If you shop carefully you can buy superior clothes, made to your exact specification, for a fraction of the ready to wear price.

While I wholeheartedly endorse your suggestion , I think you may find prices have changed a bit in the last couple of years.
Richard James, whom you mention below, would seem to be offering an off the peg suit for RRP £1300+.
I haven't checked them out personally, but would have done yesterday based on you mentioning them had I know in time.

I was visiting my 'usual' tailor for a jacket to match a pair of trousers they made up for me early 2019.
At the time these particular trousers cost under £300. The quote for a matching jacket is just north of £1500.
Of course man maths equates that to 'a bespoke suit for under £2k' which, sounds pretty good.
It must be a cost of cloth thing to some extent because they have quoted a full seersucker suit for £1600.

Anyway, inline with this thread and another regarding ill fitting off the peg clothes as per another thread, it's worth pointing out to anyone who cares that many(most?) tailors will create almost anything you like, including denim jeans, chinos, shirts, sweaters and the like.
They won't have that precious Calvin label, but at least they will fit.
Not all good / reasonable tailors reside on Savile Row.

[TheJimi]

I must admit, I'd love to get stuff properly made for me.

Size wise, I'm pretty awkward for most of the off-the-peg stuff due to having a narrow waist (28-30, depending) and a wide upper body, with a sleeve length that is S, yet my arms and torso are anything from M to XL and I'm 5'10.

Edited by TheJimi on Thursday 18th January 12:04