Paranormal experiences
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Superflow said:
Interesting thread this.
I have to laugh at the blind faith in science some display here,science has been proven wrong many times before as it is ultimately just someone's theory, like global warming is or isn't happening.I like to keep an open mind on things and don't dismiss events because it frightens me a little.
Science changes, it works with what it has. Feed it the info here and it will go with the flow. However, no info, it remains as what it is now.I have to laugh at the blind faith in science some display here,science has been proven wrong many times before as it is ultimately just someone's theory, like global warming is or isn't happening.I like to keep an open mind on things and don't dismiss events because it frightens me a little.
I have an open mind, it needs info rather than anecdotal evidence.
Baz Tench said:
smn159 said:
Baz Tench said:
Yawn.
Go and troll somewhere else.
Go on then - what do you "see differently" to the closed minded doubters?Go and troll somewhere else.
Baz Tench said:
One evening I was at home playing some old dance records from the 80s, which I had just dragged out of the loft. I hadn't heard them for over twenty years and was putting my new record deck through its paces. I was really getting into l them and suddenly felt someone blow on my left elbow (had a t-shirt on).
It made me jump as I was home alone. The paranormal does interest me though, so I kept my cool and spoke to whatever it was and said they were welcome and would they do it again?
I held my arm out, and yep, there was a longer, more concentrated blast of air (about five seconds long) to my upper forearm.
It was an incredible experience tbh. I've had a few other experiences since, but that was the start.
I'd like to think it's my old mate who we lost in a car accident in 1988. If anyone was going to appreciate those records I was playing, it would be him.
All doors and windows were closed and curtains drawn.
Please forgive my scepticism, but I'm not sure that a draught on my elbow would have convinced me to call Ghostbusters It made me jump as I was home alone. The paranormal does interest me though, so I kept my cool and spoke to whatever it was and said they were welcome and would they do it again?
I held my arm out, and yep, there was a longer, more concentrated blast of air (about five seconds long) to my upper forearm.
It was an incredible experience tbh. I've had a few other experiences since, but that was the start.
I'd like to think it's my old mate who we lost in a car accident in 1988. If anyone was going to appreciate those records I was playing, it would be him.
All doors and windows were closed and curtains drawn.
Edited by Baz Tench on Monday 5th December 22:28
V6Pushfit said:
Why wouldn't I think there's a spirit/whatever it's actually a logical conclusion to draw.
It's actually a completely illogical conclusion to draw.V6Pushfit said:
I believe the causes of all this just aren't known yet, if ever they will be. Anyone who says otherwise is also saying that there is nothing left for science to find it's reached the end.
What utter rubbish. There's tonnes left for science to do. Just because I don't believe in woo, doesn't mean I don't want a cure for cancer.Science has done extensive investigation into the paranormal. Every person who ever claimed to be in touch with the other side was unable to reproduce it when being monitored scientifically. Every moving chair or flying table failed to move or fly when monitored. Well known and respected psychics have been exposed having fallen into traps set for them. Despite CCTV and video cameras on smartphones, no one has ever captured anything paranormal. And those who claim to have had their films exposed as frauds. Religious miracle cures are always for internal things like cancer. Unverifiable. No one had ever gone to Lourdes and grown back a missing limb. Not so much as a finger tip. Why does god hate amputees. No one ever cuts them a break on the miracle cure circuit.
Not only is there not one jot of evidence for the paranormal, there is a mountain of evidence against it.
V6Pushfit said:
smn159 said:
Please forgive my scepticism, but I'm not sure that a draught on my elbow would have convinced me to call Ghostbusters
Hahahaaaaaaaa what a laugh you are. 
boobles said:
V6Pushfit said:
smn159 said:
Please forgive my scepticism, but I'm not sure that a draught on my elbow would have convinced me to call Ghostbusters
Hahahaaaaaaaa what a laugh you are. 
refusing to acknowledge anything without it being peer reviewed first 
Baz Tench said:
Predictable reply.
There's a big difference between a casual draft (I repeat, all doors and windows were closed and all curtains were drawn) and a targeted blast on command.
Well, one possibility... your brain creates it's own internal model of "reality", based on input from your senses. It constantly updates this model, but it's surprising how much of it that it generates by itself, usually by creating a model of what it expects to happen. In other words, if you expect something to happen, such as feeling a blast of air on your arm, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that you'll actually experience this and believe that it actually happened. Not only that, but your memories are also subjective - the brain re-creates rather than replays them, and that recreation is coloured and changed by all sots of things. You sure that you felt that blast of air?There's a big difference between a casual draft (I repeat, all doors and windows were closed and all curtains were drawn) and a targeted blast on command.
It's a fascinating subject and I'd suggest much more worthy of further study than simply ascribing these things to 'the unknown'
http://www.thebestbrainpossible.com/how-your-brain...
jmorgan said:
Science changes, it works with what it has. Feed it the info here and it will go with the flow. However, no info, it remains as what it is now.
I have an open mind, it needs info rather than anecdotal evidence.
The "info" are the facts of the event as presented,if science cannot provide an answer,then it is probably a paranormal event,now where is the missing boy?.I have an open mind, it needs info rather than anecdotal evidence.
smn159 said:
Baz Tench said:
Predictable reply.
There's a big difference between a casual draft (I repeat, all doors and windows were closed and all curtains were drawn) and a targeted blast on command.
Well, one possibility... your brain creates it's own internal model of "reality", based on input from your senses. It constantly updates this model, but it's surprising how much of it that it generates by itself, usually by creating a model of what it expects to happen. In other words, if you expect something to happen, such as feeling a blast of air on your arm, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that you'll actually experience this and believe that it actually happened. Not only that, but your memories are also subjective - the brain re-creates rather than replays them, and that recreation is coloured and changed by all sots of things. You sure that you felt that blast of air?There's a big difference between a casual draft (I repeat, all doors and windows were closed and all curtains were drawn) and a targeted blast on command.
It's a fascinating subject and I'd suggest much more worthy of further study than simply ascribing these things to 'the unknown'
http://www.thebestbrainpossible.com/how-your-brain...
Burwood said:
James randi offered 1m usd to anyone who could demonstrate any psychic ability, paranormal etc. no one ever claimed it.
That has been quoted a few times in this thread, and it's fine.I strongly believe that we're not meant to fully understand it though. 'It' will cross our paths every now and then, but when we least expect it. You're either sensitive to these things or you're not.
Baz Tench said:
boobles said:
EggsBenedict said:
boobles said:
shakotan said:
boobles said:
To all the haters out there, I say try a Ouija board & try taking it seriously to see what happens 
Nothing?It's basically cobblers.
So because you couldn't be bothered to take it seriously (probably to scared to if truth was to be told) that means everyone who has had "experiences" must be taking the piss? Did I sum it up for you in your own little world?
It's nice to see some aren't deterred and are posting their stories though.
It's the same thing as before. If there were undead spirits who wanted to contact the living, why would there be something special about a Ouija board? If they can move a glass round a board in a coordinated fashion, why not just hold your hand over a keyboard and get the spirit to type you out an email? Or use a pen, or whatever? What happens if you try to use a normal Ouija board in a country that doesn't use the Roman alphabet, like Russia or Greece? Do the spirits get all confused?
As lots of others have said, there's not a shred of evidence that there is such a thing as the paranormal. And there's lots of evidence to suggest that humans make very poor witnesses. So you need some sort of independently verifiable evidence to capture these things, yet nobody seems to be able to produce it.
Knock yourselves out, share your strange experiences if you must, believe that the undead walk the earth, that spirits exist and instead of taking your car out for a spin, they get their kicks from moving the furniture about or spooking you out on long winter evenings instead of turning up at your summer barbecues, but please don't mind me if I take the piss eh?
DanielSan said:
Can this thread be left to die? The interesting reading material has pretty much dried up and the fkwittery level of narrow mindedness on both sides of the argument got repetitive and dull a few pages ago.
Without going through every single post of yours but please contribute if you have any experience's to share?kwittery level of narrow mindedness on both sides of the argument got repetitive and dull a few pages ago. EggsBenedict said:
Yeah, I'm dead scared I am. So fearful.
It's the same thing as before. If there were undead spirits who wanted to contact the living, why would there be something special about a Ouija board? If they can move a glass round a board in a coordinated fashion, why not just hold your hand over a keyboard and get the spirit to type you out an email? Or use a pen, or whatever? What happens if you try to use a normal Ouija board in a country that doesn't use the Roman alphabet, like Russia or Greece? Do the spirits get all confused?
As lots of others have said, there's not a shred of evidence that there is such a thing as the paranormal. And there's lots of evidence to suggest that humans make very poor witnesses. So you need some sort of independently verifiable evidence to capture these things, yet nobody seems to be able to produce it.
Knock yourselves out, share your strange experiences if you must, believe that the undead walk the earth, that spirits exist and instead of taking your car out for a spin, they get their kicks from moving the furniture about or spooking you out on long winter evenings instead of turning up at your summer barbecues, but please don't mind me if I take the piss eh?
Yep knock yourself out because PH without people like you would be an extremely boring place....It's the same thing as before. If there were undead spirits who wanted to contact the living, why would there be something special about a Ouija board? If they can move a glass round a board in a coordinated fashion, why not just hold your hand over a keyboard and get the spirit to type you out an email? Or use a pen, or whatever? What happens if you try to use a normal Ouija board in a country that doesn't use the Roman alphabet, like Russia or Greece? Do the spirits get all confused?
As lots of others have said, there's not a shred of evidence that there is such a thing as the paranormal. And there's lots of evidence to suggest that humans make very poor witnesses. So you need some sort of independently verifiable evidence to capture these things, yet nobody seems to be able to produce it.
Knock yourselves out, share your strange experiences if you must, believe that the undead walk the earth, that spirits exist and instead of taking your car out for a spin, they get their kicks from moving the furniture about or spooking you out on long winter evenings instead of turning up at your summer barbecues, but please don't mind me if I take the piss eh?
Hopefully this thread can get back on track but I very much doubt anyone will want to contribute anymore for fear of being ridiculed & being classed as a loony!
Edited by boobles on Tuesday 6th December 20:22
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