Make a big life decision for me

Make a big life decision for me

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advicedout

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Tuesday 8th December 2015
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Pferdestarke said:
You say you have a good relationship with your current boss.

You have a good balance at home plus a young son who no doubt is benefitting from you being around.

You're probably earning enough to live quite comfortably with the wife at home being a full time mum.

Make sure you don't underestimate what you have. Are there any prospects to increase your pay to the £80k plus level that the new role would offer? What does your boss earn? What are his next moves and their succession plans?
Thankfully we live comfortably, so can't complain on that front.

I doubt there's scope to increase pay, unless I give them an ultimatum. No certain on what my boss earns, but knowing what the CEO earns, probably around £150k - He seems comfortable here, and probably no desire to move elsewhere given he gets to work from home 4/5 days and is still able to manage a small team in different locations.

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anonymous said:
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Missus is a teacher, but has decided not to go back to work since the baby. She's really into motherhood and doesn't want to leave the baby at a nursery or with anyone else, at least for the forseeable. Wider/extended family and friends (both mine and hers) all based within 30 minutes of where I live, so she has a support network around her up there. This is the reason I wouldn't contemplate moving away, as if she still wants to be a stay at home mum, she might end up bored anywhere else.

advicedout

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craigjm said:
Another thing to consider..... what is the stability of the current company vs new company? Would be sickening to move to a new job for it to go bust fairly rapidly but it would also be quite relieving to move to a new job if your current company is a bit shaky?
Current company is doing Ok'ish, don't think we're going bust any time soon.

It would take something like the great depression for the new company to go bust.

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johnwilliams77 said:
You said earlier it was an internal move?
It's not an internal move. I don't think I said that.

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p1stonhead said:
You said internal HR approached you about it. How would it not be internal or at least another division/subsidiary?
New company's internal HR team, as opposed to a recruitment agency.

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I work for cold hard cash, the more the merrier.

I'm not afraid of a challenging role, i'm usually able to rise to the challenge.

The one thing I cannot deal with though is a bad relationship with my boss. In my experience that is the single thing which makes work life intolerable. This is obviously impossible to predict without jumping in.

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egor110 said:
I don't think it is the green eyed monster.

Why the fk have a child then try to be away as much as possible?

Man the fk up and look after your child, don't run away and just pay the bills.
Is being away a night a week running away? I'm not sure. But looks like i'm in the minority.

advicedout

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I'm going for it. I think i'll regret it if I don't. If it gets too much, I can always stop.

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johnwilliams77 said:
Why on earth did you start this thread?!
To gather opinions to feed into my decision making process

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Bonus has been paid in full the last 4 years to the 3 people who would be my equivalents, so i'm fairly comfortable I can reach that.

So more pertinent question is can I hack travelling 5 hours extra per week, and staying away for 1 night a week, for an extra grand in my hand each month? For me it's a yes. Appreciate it may be different for different people, but the reasons that have been brought up for not taking the job, don't resonate strongly with me.

Obviously i'm worried that the new boss will be a bell end, but that's just a risk i'll have to take. He might be great.

advicedout

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johnwilliams77 said:
Not really. It will all go on beer, coke and hookers.
I don't drink, don't do drugs, and don't do hookers. So i'm pretty sure i'll be safe.

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Monkeylegend said:
You knew that anyway before you started this thread. I think you just wanted to let us all know how much you earn wink
Maybe I should have put a disclaimer at the top that I wasn't intending the thread to be a democratic vote.

I was looking for something I hadn't thought of but should consider. Lot's of people have given good advice, but just don't think it's got the possibility of being as catastrophic to my family as many seem to think it would be.

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johnwilliams77 said:
Give it 3 months.
Haha. I'll update 3 months into it

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anonymous said:
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Neither, but I don't want to any more specific on here because i've been detailed enough as it is.

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okgo said:
Either way I think if it pays 70k in out in the sticks then surely you can find someone to pay you more than 80 odd for the same thing in London...
Yes, it's possible - but very unlikely to be a home based role allowing me to work 50% of the time from home with all travel/accommodation expenses paid, and a £35 evening allowance.

This offer cuts out London housing costs, and cuts out an expensive rail season ticket, whilst allowing me to be home with the family half the working time.

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anonymous said:
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Ha, i'd be up for this.

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ruggedscotty said:
These questions are always an eye opener - reading that original post then seeing that you took it.

Gobsmacked indeed.

No where near the salary Id expect - and were talking salary here not all the ad ons and such as these can disappear very quickly and then you are left in the lurch. Companies do all sorts to try and attract people and loading up expenses and everything but the salary is a way to hoodwink and side step the real and very important need to have money.

You dont jump ship to another job without it being a significant step up. You are mving your family out of its comfort zone and into an area that doesnt have a lot going for it. London is a great place if you have the financial resource to enjoy it and what your talking about salary wise is no where near enough.

Id say the new company is on a winner they have managed to hook someone to come down from the bonnies on an inferior wage to do a job that they would have had to pay lots to get someone to do in the south. That alone would have made me walk away.
Re your second para, I would only be enjoying London once a week, and it would be expensed so not sure how financial resource to enjoy it is relevant.

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Wednesday 9th December 2015
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thelittleegg said:
Kermit power said:
WTF????

Have you actually read anything the OP has posted? He's going to be away one night a week, and working from home 3 days per week, not buggering off to a North Sea Oil platform for 4 weeks at a time!
Am I missing something, because he's been a bit vague about it, originally saying 5 days out every 2 weeks, then reducing that to 1 day a week. Did he post a revised offer?

zebra said:
Pointless thread by the OP.

His mind was made up before he posted.
"Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn't"
London 5 days every 2 weeks, but will logistically mean i'm away from home 1 night a week if 2 days are worked consecutively.

advicedout

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anonymous said:
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In net terms its a jump from £49k to £59k

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AyBee said:
okgo said:
I'm intrigued to know what the fk pays £72k to a 28 year old in Lancs!
Me too. I'm the same age as the OP and would almost have to cut my salary in half to move outside London frown

anonymous said:
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I'm surprised the salary jump to London is not a lot more to be honest, if I was on £72k, I wouldn't take a £10k jump to another role in London, let alone from outside.

red_slr said:
Sometimes (not saying this is the time but I am just saying) you have to give up a bit of time to further yourself.
Only the OP knows his position in his career and what future employers will be looking for.
OP - what are your future options past this job? I can understand the want to move and try something new, but you're very well paid to be outside of London and I'd be interested to know what your future options are. When you want to stop the commute, are there lots of options back near where you are or are you going to be looking for more London roles with working from home options because you've just left the only company near where you are that could employ you with your current skills?
I'm a lawyer. The salary in London is probably about right for my experience, i'm probably slightly overpaid compared to the legal market here in the NW. But it'a a niche role here, so not a glut of suitable candidates.