Gender Dysphoria

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Not-All-Here

580 posts

187 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Graham E said:
Have you ever drank a shoe of Bailey's?

Edited by Graham E on Tuesday 12th May 01:29
Its " have you ever drank baileys from a shoe?"

Jeesus man, if your gunna quote the boosh, get it right.!!!!

Nobody You Know

8,422 posts

194 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Not-All-Here said:
Graham E said:
Have you ever drank a shoe of Bailey's?

Edited by Graham E on Tuesday 12th May 01:29
Its " have you ever drank baileys from a shoe?"

Jeesus man, if your gunna quote the boosh, get it right.!!!!
Are you Utterly Clueless/Acid Drop or not then Thom?

Is that you son?

missdiane

13,993 posts

250 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Nolar Dog said:
Yes, missdiane I have short (dyed) blonde hair. thumbup
I think I did see some pictures when you first joined, I happened to think you were very attractive for a lady, and there was no mistake what gender you were smile
(i.e I would not have thought you were a man before until someone told me)
Well done for the thread thumbup

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

227 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Nolar Dog said:
CommanderJameson said:
Could you or would you have gone through what is undoubtedly a huge change, if your family and close ones had not been supportive?
Yes I'd have done it with or without them.

I told my parents how I felt by way of a letter. I explained what it meant and how it (hopefully) justified a few silly things I'd done as a lad.

I also told them that they would be losing a son either way but now had the chance to gain a happy daughter.
It sounds blunt thinking about it but I figured that if it was written down they had chance to read it again.

If I'd gone and said it to them they may not have listened properly, not taken it in fully or just got angry and thrown me out. With a letter the worst they could do is rip it up but it could always be pieced back together to read again to help them understand.
People don't write enough letters to each other. A few well-formed, considered thoughts on paper can sometimes take the place of hours of shouting.

Nolar Dog said:
CommanderJameson said:
Top bombing, by the way, for posting this thread.
I've never heard that phrase before. frown Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Oh, definitely a good thing.

Nolar Dog

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8,786 posts

196 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Lil' Joe said:
I am so very pleased I started that Manly scars thread because it has led to one of the most interesting threads I've yet rad on PH, along with a few choice others. After people leaving et al it's good to read a more serious thread with honest answer's and intelligent conversation.
You make me proud...
<sniff>
Shut up you girl hehe

Lil Joe said:
I would also genuinely like to see some photo's if you would be kind enough to post some Vicky. smile
I'm posting from my phone at minute as I'm out and about today but I will post a couple of pics of me later. smile

Lil Joe said:
Oh, and did your insurance go down? I must know, mine are ridiculous and I always said I'd do anything to lower them hehe
In all seriousness yes it did but I think that's more to do with me not being silly any more.

For a few years before I transitioned I was doing some daft things some of which were motoring related.

To cut a very long story short I was banned from driving 3 times and went to prison twice. That bumps up your premium quite a bit!

I'm all legal now and my insurance is cheap again. smile

Nolar Dog

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Tuesday 12th May 2009
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drivin_me_nuts said:
Interesting posting ND.

So, what was the trigger for making the final decision to start the process of change?
As I've just alluded to in a post above I was getting into more and more trouble and mixing with some bad people towards the end of my male life.

I was trying too hard to hide my feelings and be "one of the boys".

I thought the time was here were I had to do something or I would end up either dead or in prison for a very long time.


Edited by Nolar Dog on Thursday 14th May 00:47

Nolar Dog

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Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Amused2death said:
I don't wish to make you appear as an object, but if you have a passport.....how do the authorities classify you on there?

BTW..."Top bombing"...I think that came from a tv advert years ago, possibly John Smiths bitter
It's cool no offence. smile One of the first things to do when you start living as the opposite sex is to change your name by Deed Poll. Then get a letter from your GP confirming you are under their care and that in his opinion you intend to spend the rest of your life in the new role.

You can then apply for a passport and driving licence in your new ID and to reflect your new title.
This is one of the first things you must do if you intend having genital surgery as you must prove you are "committed" to the change before you get a referral letter.

Birth certificates can be changed but that's a different matter.

hugo a gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Not having a go at nolar dog here, but I have to say it says something about society that people feel they have to modify themselves with surgery and drugs to fit in

why is it that women can dress in 'men's clothes' and do 'manly' things without much backlash, men can declare themselves 'gay' and then be allowed to do all sorts of 'unmanly' things, other men can say they are 'transexual' and they must dress up in outrageously over the top girly clothes - yet a man feel he identifies more with the female role and that needs surgical intervention?

Nolar Dog

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Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Poledriver: you admitting what you have on this forum probably takes more bravery than my posts. smile

It's nice that you talk about it though as it shows just a few more people that TS girls are "normal".

The girl you dated: How old was she if you don't mind me asking and how long had she been transitioned?
Do you know which surgeon she had been to?

Nolar Dog

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Tuesday 12th May 2009
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hugo a gogo said:
Not having a go at nolar dog here, but I have to say it says something about society that people feel they have to modify themselves with surgery and drugs to fit in
Firstly what I did surgically was purely for me and me alone. I knew inside I was female but I also knew women didn't have a penis.

I couldn't change my mind/brain so the only other option is to change my genitals to match my mind.
It had nothing to do with society's acceptance of me as for the most part people won't know what is in your pants until you take them off. smile

I think TS people do get the rough end of the stick in acceptance terms. It seems much easier to be gay or a cross dresser. But I have to say, a lot of transexuals don't really help themselves.

They seem to have some kind of "Woe ist me" attitude and often very bad dress sense.
I think the biggest problem for trans people is that they "come out" to late in life for one reason or another.

Nolar Dog

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Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Thanks missdiane and thanks for clearing up the "top bombing" bit Commander. smile

Letters are good, I agree. smile

hugo a gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Nolar Dog said:
hugo a gogo said:
Not having a go at nolar dog here, but I have to say it says something about society that people feel they have to modify themselves with surgery and drugs to fit in
Firstly what I did surgically was purely for me and me alone. I knew inside I was female but I also knew women didn't have a penis.
what exactly does it mean to be female then? apart from the 'no penis' thing
how do we define a woman, apart from by sex organs or chromosomes?

we are all just people
I know some very butch women, and some effeminate men

Edited by hugo a gogo on Tuesday 12th May 09:30

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

233 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Nolar, when you meet a bloke- do you tell him straight away?
Are the type of blokes you generally attract gay or straight?

Have you kept your knackers as earings?



Well someone had to lighten this thread up a little

Mrs Trackside

9,299 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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hugo a gogo said:
Nolar Dog said:
hugo a gogo said:
Not having a go at nolar dog here, but I have to say it says something about society that people feel they have to modify themselves with surgery and drugs to fit in
Firstly what I did surgically was purely for me and me alone. I knew inside I was female but I also knew women didn't have a penis.
what exactly does it mean to be female then? apart from the 'no penis' thing
how do we define a woman, apart from by sex organs or chromosomes?

we are all just people
I know some very butch women, and some effeminate men
That's what I don't understand and that's the thing that confuses me. I know a couple of transvestites who are happy with the skin they're in. I have a lesbian friend who looks like a man and has always known since she was a small child that she was "different" (gay), she actually has what I would class a very male brain, but (as far as I know) she doesn't want to be a man. I've spoken to some transexuals who like you, can't define why they know they were in the wrong body. Why is your gender so important?

JonRB

74,855 posts

273 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Nolar Dog said:
I think the biggest problem for trans people is that they "come out" to late in life for one reason or another.
It's true. Have a quick scout though the UK Angels website or Flickr and a disproportionate number of t-girls are in their 40's. Is it a mid-life crisis thing?

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

233 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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JonRB said:
Nolar Dog said:
I think the biggest problem for trans people is that they "come out" to late in life for one reason or another.
It's true. Have a quick scout though the UK Angels website or Flickr and a disproportionate number of t-girls are in their 40's. Is it a mid-life crisis thing?
A pure guess is that it is only recently that they would have been stoned for being freaks.
Its not long since gay people were shunned and loathed.
More a sign of the times than an age of the person involved.
Plus I would guess that its only recently that the medical proffession has made the processes feasible?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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has your ironing improved?

wink

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

233 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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IM curious PD.
Do you see it as having had sex with a woman or a man?

Nolar Dog

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Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Mrs Trackside: I'm not sure how to explain other than to say it's very difficult to accept yourself when your mind is telling you one thing and your body (image) is telling you something totally different.

There needs to be congruity between the two, or at least there did in my case.

Nolar Dog

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Tuesday 12th May 2009
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blindswelledrat said:
Nolar, when you meet a bloke- do you tell him straight away?
Are the type of blokes you generally attract gay or straight?

Have you kept your knackers as earings?
When I meet someone I don't tell them of my past. I would only tell them if I thought things were going to get serious enough to warrant it.

I know it's an awkward topic with people (Do you or don't you tell?) but I'd rather my partner get a chance to know me as I am rather than forming a blinkered opinion without really knowing me.

As yet I've had no problems with that side of things.

As for the "earrings" bit: No I don't have then but I have pictures of them being removed by scalpel if you'd like to see them. smile