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Sway

26,446 posts

195 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Cool, or Snake Oil is a perennial favourite...

TX1

2,392 posts

184 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Yes shall mix my own in due course but as only been vaping for a month taking things one step at a time.
Funnily enough after trying the KY4 by Vermillion River that I did not at first enjoy, as the days have gone by it has grown on me.
But last night her indoors was moaning about the sickly smell it was making and she opened all the frickin windows at midnight so am looking for a KY4 replacement which I hope is not as smelly.
So ordered some Hangsen from Ireland and a couple of other juices which are very very cheap.
Also am trying some samples from a company which is getting some great writeups called B-juice, shall let you know how I get on.

megapixels83

823 posts

152 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Been vaping the cheaper sets and found they were crap so bought an Eleaf Istick Mini with a Kanger Aerotech dual coil tank and vaping Vampire Vape's Heisenberg.

Quick question on recharging the battery, I use a USB cable from my computer and it seems to charge really fast but doesn't last compared to when I bought it pre charged it lasted a lot longer. Should I use a wall plug and will an Apple one do as someone said not to use an Apple USB plug.

TX1

2,392 posts

184 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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^^ Yes have found the same, the battery seems not to last like it did with charge from the factory.
I use the pc usb but my bro who also has a istick30w charges from the wall and has to recharge nearly every day and we both bought them about 3 weeks ago.

rb5er

11,657 posts

173 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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I have written this on Reddit and also sent it to Smok, quite shocked.

During the week I got a nice new and genuine black in colour Smok xpro m65 in the post, (the 2nd one as the first one has a loose wire and button so needed to be returned) It looks great, a friend has the M30 and has been very happy with it for about a month now.

So just now as its the weekend I put away my mechanical mod to give this a try. As per the OP`s post it started firing, would not stop firing, billowed smoke from the vents at the bottom as it overheated very very quickly and I could not turn it off.

I had to run to the doors and throw it outside before the room filled with carconogenic plastic smoke and immediately I ran to get an oven glove and an allen key to try and get the battery out before the thing got worse.

Got the tank off and eventually got the battery out. It has had an electrical fire inside and burnt the wires and the battery.

I am absolutely shocked. this could have been much, much worse. They should not be selling these if there is even a chance it might do this.

My mechanical stingray clone has never had any issues and cost half the price.

If I was somewhere with less external access, a basement of an apartment with no balcony or garden this could have been catastrophic.

I am shocked that this is allowed to be sold.

Cotty

39,687 posts

285 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Lancashire Steam Company. I have tried a few of their juice liked probably about 50%. I was looking for a review of Dibnah's Delight as the description does not say what it actually taste like. I found Martyn Parker has reviewed a few so thought I would share.

Dibnah's Delight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlYshiMx1dA

Useless Dunker & Boiler Watter (I really like Boiler Watter but not as an all day vape)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW9XBAmnjEE

EE Bah Humbug & Apple Bobbin (Apple Bobbin my favorite)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFyhH_m4Tpk

Dipstick & Boggart's Breath (neither would be a rebuy but some may like them)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYMGzB9ZKdk

Cotty

39,687 posts

285 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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rb5er said:
I have written this on Reddit and also sent it to Smok, quite shocked.
I tend to watch a lot (probably too many) reviews of products on YouTube. I tend to stick to products/companies that get good reviews. Aspire, Kanger, eleaf istick. Even those can have problems, the 20w istick has been criticized for having poor threading, the early Kanger subtanks had an issue with their insulators.

People need to look into things, read/watch reviews. Im currently vaping on a Kanger subtank on a Sigelei 30w mini. People have said the threads are made of butter, knowing that I don't unscrew the base from the mod when refiling. I have not had any issues.

Edited by Cotty on Tuesday 5th May 23:10

rb5er

11,657 posts

173 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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I do watch reviews, Steve Bonner and Rip Trippers etc but not seen a bad review on this one.

Might try the siglei next as thats sold in the store I have replaced the smok xpro at so can get exchange for one.

Just shocked at how dangerous some of this gear can be.

I also considered an Aspire mod as a safe option but not so keen on the mainstream stuff and previously have found Aspire to be a bit meh....

Cotty

39,687 posts

285 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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rb5er said:
I do watch reviews, Steve Bonner and Rip Trippers etc but not seen a bad review on this one.

I have not seen any reviews so can not comment.

rb5er said:
Might try the siglei next as thats sold in the store I have replaced the smok xpro at so can get exchange for one.
The siglei's are not small. Proper box mods, even the mini that I have is large compared to an istick with similar power.


rb5er said:
Just shocked at how dangerous some of this gear can be.
When you start getting away from a basic cleromiser and ego batterys, it can be if people get tempted to jump into rebuildables, mech mods, etc. without going though the learning curve. If people want to do that then jump over to a deidcated site like http://ukvapers.org/ and get some proper advice on ohms law and battery safety.

rb5er said:
I also considered an Aspire mod as a safe option but not so keen on the mainstream stuff and previously have found Aspire to be a bit meh....
Edited by Cotty on Tuesday 5th May 23:31


Edited by Cotty on Tuesday 5th May 23:34

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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3 weeks in to vaping after 33 years of 20 a day.

I'm downing tons of the stuff at 18mg.

stevoknevo

1,682 posts

191 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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I wouldn't use a SMOK or Cloupor device even if it was given to me for nothing! Cheap crap - the SMOK m80 has been known to go faulty within a matter of hours, usually it doesn't fire, but I'm not surprised that one has continued to fire. Cloupor mini had issues on the first batch were similar was happening, they resolved that, but on the latest batch the battery level doesn't work and people are discharging the battery below safe levels!

Cheap pieces of tat that people are being drawn too due to price/power out put.

Unless you are doing really low resistance builds, there's no need for high wattage devices. I've got a Sigelei 50w v2 and rarely use it above 30w - usually 15 on my tank, 25-30 with a dripper at .6/.7ohm. I tried it at 50w with a troll rda, it was a hoot for 5 minutes, but there was poor flavour, it was going through liquid at an alarming rate, and the Wife was going nuts as I fogged the kitchen out in 3 drags!

I know we are all different, but I really don't see the need personally YMMV.

My Sigelei has been flawless in the four months I've owned it, has a high quality YiHi 330 chip, fires immediately, never fails to fire, has accepted every atty, charges if need it to (and quicker than my charger), very good build quality, you could hammer nails in with it. It cost me £70 including four Samsung 25r batteries and I expect it to work for a long time to come.

Melman Giraffe

6,759 posts

219 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Asterix said:
3 weeks in to vaping after 33 years of 20 a day.

I'm downing tons of the stuff at 18mg.
Day 10 for me using an Aspire ESP30 with a Nautilus mini, seem to be using a lot of Juice too around 10ml 18mg every 3 days. On the flip side not wanted a fag!!

I too was a 20 a day for 20 odd years

TX1

2,392 posts

184 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Was reading the box of a Hangsen 10ml 18mg juice and it says "this bottle is equivalent to 200 tobacco cigarettes"
You think this means the nicotine equivalent of smoking 200 cigs guys ?
If thats the case this means anyone using a bottle every 2 days is vaping the equivalent nicotine of 5 packs a day.

stevoknevo

1,682 posts

191 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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Melman Giraffe said:
Asterix said:
3 weeks in to vaping after 33 years of 20 a day.

I'm downing tons of the stuff at 18mg.
Day 10 for me using an Aspire ESP30 with a Nautilus mini, seem to be using a lot of Juice too around 10ml 18mg every 3 days. On the flip side not wanted a fag!!

I too was a 20 a day for 20 odd years
I averaged the same on the larger Nautilus (same output, larger capacity tank) when I gave up cigs - take it you are in the 10-15w range?

As I mentioned on a recent previous page; vaping doesn't provide nicotine as efficiently as smoking does, and as a recent ex smoker, your body is still craving all of the other chemicals that smoking provided, not just nicotine! You're getting your nicotine intake, even if it doesn't feel like it - it's the withdrawal from all the other ste you are experiencing, hence going through a lot of liquid. If 18mg isn't holding you, go to 24mg, although few decent juice vendors supply this strength - LiQuid the £1 vendor do.

The kit you use, and it's ability to provide the vape you need to satisfy you, is integral to keeping off the fags: I started on an ego/c4 setup to see if I liked vaping - yes, I did, and it kept me off them for 3 weeks, but I struggled. Moved to a Vamo V5 and Kanger protank 3 setup = even better. Changed tank to Nautilus and that was my setup for nearly a year on 18mg liquid.
I changed my setup at the start of the year to a tank that requires direct lung inhales and dropped to 12mg - it was only then that my link with smoking went, and vaping became a hobby! I now chop and change between a regulated device and tank at 11-12mg, and a mechanical mod and dripper at 6mg. I can dose up and go hours without a vape, or have a session to relax, using either.

As well as being a former smoker of 30+ years turned vaper, I'm also an Addictions Nurse! I figured out what works for me, but everyone is different - I quickly moved away from tobacco flavoured liquids to break the link to smoking, easy for me as I have a sweet tooth; but others love the tobacco taste. The move to lung inhale tanks/drippers broke the link even more as it's a completely different style and experience.

tl,dr;

We're all different - decent kit and quality liquid + motivation is the key. Ask for advice!

Melman Giraffe

6,759 posts

219 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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stevoknevo said:
Melman Giraffe said:
Asterix said:
3 weeks in to vaping after 33 years of 20 a day.

I'm downing tons of the stuff at 18mg.
Day 10 for me using an Aspire ESP30 with a Nautilus mini, seem to be using a lot of Juice too around 10ml 18mg every 3 days. On the flip side not wanted a fag!!

I too was a 20 a day for 20 odd years
take it you are in the 10-15w range?
Probably 20-25w to get more of a hit. I might look at buying some 24 juice to keep the pangs away

stevoknevo

1,682 posts

191 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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Melman Giraffe said:
stevoknevo said:
Melman Giraffe said:
Asterix said:
3 weeks in to vaping after 33 years of 20 a day.

I'm downing tons of the stuff at 18mg.
Day 10 for me using an Aspire ESP30 with a Nautilus mini, seem to be using a lot of Juice too around 10ml 18mg every 3 days. On the flip side not wanted a fag!!

I too was a 20 a day for 20 odd years
take it you are in the 10-15w range?
Probably 20-25w to get more of a hit. I might look at buying some 24 juice to keep the pangs away
I'd be surprised if the Nautilus coils are taking that kind of power!
Just had a look at an old 1.6ohm coil that was lying around and the rated power is 3.3-5v or 6.5-15watts -s surprised it doesn't taste burnt to fk? 10-11w was the maximum I could put through them, I chain vaped though.
A new tank, like a subtank or similar, would probably be a better bet as it can deliver more of a hit in one go, although they aren't particularly suited to mouth to lung draws.

Melman Giraffe

6,759 posts

219 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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stevoknevo said:
Melman Giraffe said:
stevoknevo said:
Melman Giraffe said:
Asterix said:
3 weeks in to vaping after 33 years of 20 a day.

I'm downing tons of the stuff at 18mg.
Day 10 for me using an Aspire ESP30 with a Nautilus mini, seem to be using a lot of Juice too around 10ml 18mg every 3 days. On the flip side not wanted a fag!!

I too was a 20 a day for 20 odd years
take it you are in the 10-15w range?
Probably 20-25w to get more of a hit. I might look at buying some 24 juice to keep the pangs away
I'd be surprised if the Nautilus coils are taking that kind of power!
Just had a look at an old 1.6ohm coil that was lying around and the rated power is 3.3-5v or 6.5-15watts -s surprised it doesn't taste burnt to fk? 10-11w was the maximum I could put through them, I chain vaped though.
A new tank, like a subtank or similar, would probably be a better bet as it can deliver more of a hit in one go, although they aren't particularly suited to mouth to lung draws.
I must admit I'm having to change the coil every 5/7 days


D_T_W

2,502 posts

216 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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Well, my goodies arrived today, so far I've discovered the Kanger Subtank Plus on a Sigelei 50W mod is a touch too big to fit in the pocket on my jeans, but my Atlantis on my 50W iStick is a much more manageable size (both running aroun 15-20W). Opposite way around the Subtank looks a little big for the iStick, whereas the Atlantis fits nicely on both.

Flavour of my 6mg batch from Lancashire Steam Co seems to have mellowed a little with age, but some of the flavours I got are bloody awful hurl

I've found Apple Bobbin a little sickly in the Subtank with the 1.2ohm and 0.5ohm coils, whereas in the Atlantis it seems a little better. Going to give my Digbys batch a whirl over the weekend, but I might use the RBA coil instead of wasting the pre-made coils just to try out the flavours.

On the topic of build quality, I'd put the Subtank slightly above the Atlantis, just feels a little more sturdy and screws together nicely. Both leak a little out the airholes, but with 70% VG I kinda expected that. The iStick fits in the hand better than the Sigelei, but the latter feels like a quality product (it bloody should for the price!).

All in all happy with my latest purchases, the Subtank Plus holds a fair amount of juice so I need to find something I like sooner rather than later so I can utilise it properly, with the Atlantis as my second vape running a different flavour.

TX1

2,392 posts

184 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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Just received a 7 bottle sample pack at £15 inc post from B-Juice.
Tried 5 so far and all I can say is wow, so different to the normal stuff and very complex flavors.
Try them guys, you shall not regret it.

treehack

997 posts

240 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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On the subject of juices, I have 2 new addictions. Zeus Juices Dimpleberry and Medusa. Both very nice, easy all day vapes.
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