Divorcing empty nesters...
Discussion
PAUL500 said:
The authorities finally had to get involved due to issues between my ex and my daughter, they and the courts will now not release her to me, they then investigated the situation my youngest was also living in and are now recommending the same for her.
Up to a senior judge to now make the decisions as to what happens to them next, its out of my hands legally. I warned a lower judge that reports to this one that it was going to happen, both in the divorce final hearing and in a subsequent appeal, that judge chose to believe my ex both times and refused to amend the order so that I could home them.
Oh and as a result he also made me pick up her legal bill on the second occasion, 6 weeks later my eldest was in care, exactly as I had predicted in the appeal.
The likelihood is that every tax payer reading this thread will be picking up the tab for their care from now on, and my ex will simply skip off into the sunset with the extra 22% she was given from my share of the assets to home the girls.
May I ask, are these your biological children, or children that your ex wife had before you met her?Up to a senior judge to now make the decisions as to what happens to them next, its out of my hands legally. I warned a lower judge that reports to this one that it was going to happen, both in the divorce final hearing and in a subsequent appeal, that judge chose to believe my ex both times and refused to amend the order so that I could home them.
Oh and as a result he also made me pick up her legal bill on the second occasion, 6 weeks later my eldest was in care, exactly as I had predicted in the appeal.
The likelihood is that every tax payer reading this thread will be picking up the tab for their care from now on, and my ex will simply skip off into the sunset with the extra 22% she was given from my share of the assets to home the girls.
Edited by PAUL500 on Tuesday 11th April 21:29
I can only assume the latter, I find it very hard to believe that any court would put a child in care in preference to with his or her natural parent...
yes, what Ari said- no council is going to pick costly care (homes) when they can punt a child onto other family members.
Having spent decades being involved in such family cases (I used to run a cities homeless/housing services) its an odd position to occur.
Unless there are other factors about the other parent/lifestyle/home etc that when considered render them unsuitable. Naturally I'm not pointing fingers here, for one minute.
Having spent decades being involved in such family cases (I used to run a cities homeless/housing services) its an odd position to occur.
Unless there are other factors about the other parent/lifestyle/home etc that when considered render them unsuitable. Naturally I'm not pointing fingers here, for one minute.
It is very much as I described. The girls have certain special needs that were not being met at my exes home, which is why they wont release them to me either now in case the same thing happens, so they claim. Also I don't have enough money to provide the home my ex demanded for them, and was given, which is another factor now being used against me! However they also cannot find suitable specialist foster placements either. Its going to be an interesting week next week.
If they were not mine I would not have lost 22% of my share of the assets to home someone elses children would I!
If they were not mine I would not have lost 22% of my share of the assets to home someone elses children would I!
Edited by PAUL500 on Wednesday 12th April 18:12
Women divorce men for money.
Men divorce women for money.
The difference is women do it a hell of a lot more (based on some simple long tail keyword research I just did it is a 2.3:1 ratio!
Then there are websites and services specifically designed for women to scam their husbands so they get everything when they do divorce such as gems like
http://www.bedrockdivorce.com/blog/?page_id=138
"Change beneficiaries on life insurance policies, IRAs, etc
If your husband isn’t aware of your plans for divorce, you should contact your insurance or brokerage company to make sure they will not automatically send him notifications. "
Then he ends up with nothing and the woman gets everything.
Then if you live in the USA he then has to pay her alimony (like a tax free wage) for the rest of her life.
So many men have commited suicide over it and so little women have.
The facts speak for themselves.
I am 30 and single and whilst I really lust to be married to a lovely girl I see what wives do their husbands the moment some younger, good looking guy comes along...and it just puts me off completely.
Men divorce women for money.
The difference is women do it a hell of a lot more (based on some simple long tail keyword research I just did it is a 2.3:1 ratio!
Then there are websites and services specifically designed for women to scam their husbands so they get everything when they do divorce such as gems like
http://www.bedrockdivorce.com/blog/?page_id=138
"Change beneficiaries on life insurance policies, IRAs, etc
If your husband isn’t aware of your plans for divorce, you should contact your insurance or brokerage company to make sure they will not automatically send him notifications. "
Then he ends up with nothing and the woman gets everything.
Then if you live in the USA he then has to pay her alimony (like a tax free wage) for the rest of her life.
So many men have commited suicide over it and so little women have.
The facts speak for themselves.
I am 30 and single and whilst I really lust to be married to a lovely girl I see what wives do their husbands the moment some younger, good looking guy comes along...and it just puts me off completely.
twoblacklines said:
Women divorce men for money.
Men divorce women for money.
The difference is women do it a hell of a lot more (based on some simple long tail keyword research I just did it is a 2.3:1 ratio!
T.
I would simply rewrite the first two lines:-Men divorce women for money.
The difference is women do it a hell of a lot more (based on some simple long tail keyword research I just did it is a 2.3:1 ratio!
T.
Women divorce men when a better offer comes along, and also for money
Men divorce women so as to get some peace, quiet and time to do what they want.
twoblacklines said:
The facts speak for themselves.
I am 30 and single and whilst I really lust to be married to a lovely girl I see what wives do their husbands the moment some younger, good looking guy comes along...and it just puts me off completely.
They do indeed, you will die a sad lonely bitter old man because you are an idiot who bases his expectations on other peoples experiences, plenty of people in the world with long happy marriages.I am 30 and single and whilst I really lust to be married to a lovely girl I see what wives do their husbands the moment some younger, good looking guy comes along...and it just puts me off completely.
berlintaxi said:
They do indeed, you will die a sad lonely bitter old man because you are an idiot who bases his expectations on other peoples experiences, plenty of people in the world with long happy marriages.
No. Basing your expectations on other people's experiences is the opposite of idiocy. As this thread shows, long, happy marriages are not the norm, if they ever were.Dirty Harry's famous question would have been rather different if it started "I know for a fact I've got three bullets left in the chambers..."
grumbledoak said:
berlintaxi said:
They do indeed, you will die a sad lonely bitter old man because you are an idiot who bases his expectations on other peoples experiences, plenty of people in the world with long happy marriages.
No. Basing your expectations on other people's experiences is the opposite of idiocy. As this thread shows, long, happy marriages are not the norm, if they ever were.However, they are out there.
I am on my second marriage. We argue on average every two years. We have been together for nine years, and known each other for about forteen years. She is my everything, I am hers. We put each other first, that I think is why we work so well together.
My first marriage was an utter horlicks - she even asked for a divorce on the day of our second wedding anniversary, having asked me to take a few days off work to drive down from Herts to Cornwall for 'something nice'.Thank Christ there were no kids involved..... Which reminds me, She was/is a nurse. We were trying for kids.
When it was evident that month that we were unsuccessful again, she turned to me asking why. I might have been more tactful in pointing out that in order to conceive, we actually needed to have had sex that month. She didn't sleep with me for another three weeks....
Anyway, back to the point. There are great marriages out there. I really hope that all find the perfect partner for them. I know I did. Eventually. After having a lot of fun.
I am on my second marriage. We argue on average every two years. We have been together for nine years, and known each other for about forteen years. She is my everything, I am hers. We put each other first, that I think is why we work so well together.
My first marriage was an utter horlicks - she even asked for a divorce on the day of our second wedding anniversary, having asked me to take a few days off work to drive down from Herts to Cornwall for 'something nice'.Thank Christ there were no kids involved..... Which reminds me, She was/is a nurse. We were trying for kids.
When it was evident that month that we were unsuccessful again, she turned to me asking why. I might have been more tactful in pointing out that in order to conceive, we actually needed to have had sex that month. She didn't sleep with me for another three weeks....
Anyway, back to the point. There are great marriages out there. I really hope that all find the perfect partner for them. I know I did. Eventually. After having a lot of fun.
olly22n said:
I'd echo what Don said. Marriage with the right person must be magical.
Unfortunately, i chose the wrong person the first time around, and I won't make that mistake for the second time.
But presumably you didn't find out you'd made a mistake the first time till afterwards...Unfortunately, i chose the wrong person the first time around, and I won't make that mistake for the second time.
PAUL500 said:
The authorities finally had to get involved due to issues between my ex and my daughter, they and the courts will now not release her to me, they then investigated the situation my youngest was also living in and are now recommending the same for her.
Up to a senior judge to now make the decisions as to what happens to them next, its out of my hands legally. I warned a lower judge that reports to this one that it was going to happen, both in the divorce final hearing and in a subsequent appeal, that judge chose to believe my ex both times and refused to amend the order so that I could home them.
Oh and as a result he also made me pick up her legal bill on the second occasion, 6 weeks later my eldest was in care, exactly as I had predicted in the appeal.
The likelihood is that every tax payer reading this thread will be picking up the tab for their care from now on, and my ex will simply skip off into the sunset with the extra 22% she was given from my share of the assets to home the girls.
Paul, your story is heartbreaking! Up to a senior judge to now make the decisions as to what happens to them next, its out of my hands legally. I warned a lower judge that reports to this one that it was going to happen, both in the divorce final hearing and in a subsequent appeal, that judge chose to believe my ex both times and refused to amend the order so that I could home them.
Oh and as a result he also made me pick up her legal bill on the second occasion, 6 weeks later my eldest was in care, exactly as I had predicted in the appeal.
The likelihood is that every tax payer reading this thread will be picking up the tab for their care from now on, and my ex will simply skip off into the sunset with the extra 22% she was given from my share of the assets to home the girls.
Edited by PAUL500 on Tuesday 11th April 21:29
These judges should surely have some accountability when getting things so wrong, they are ruining the lives of the young people they're supposed to be protecting.
I sincerely hope, that there's a happy ending for you and your children, some time in the future.
grumbledoak said:
berlintaxi said:
They do indeed, you will die a sad lonely bitter old man because you are an idiot who bases his expectations on other peoples experiences, plenty of people in the world with long happy marriages.
No. Basing your expectations on other people's experiences is the opposite of idiocy. As this thread shows, long, happy marriages are not the norm, if they ever were.https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunit...
berlintaxi said:
grumbledoak said:
berlintaxi said:
They do indeed, you will die a sad lonely bitter old man because you are an idiot who bases his expectations on other peoples experiences, plenty of people in the world with long happy marriages.
No. Basing your expectations on other people's experiences is the opposite of idiocy. As this thread shows, long, happy marriages are not the norm, if they ever were.berlintaxi said:
So because some marriages fail every one will? The ONS would disagree, the number of divorces is in decline.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunit...
Doesn't that correspond with the number of marriages declining too?https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunit...
olly22n said:
Ari said:
olly22n said:
I'd echo what Don said. Marriage with the right person must be magical.
Unfortunately, i chose the wrong person the first time around, and I won't make that mistake for the second time.
But presumably you didn't find out you'd made a mistake the first time till afterwards...Unfortunately, i chose the wrong person the first time around, and I won't make that mistake for the second time.
Don1 said:
However, they are out there.
I am on my second marriage. We argue on average every two years. We have been together for nine years, and known each other for about forteen years. She is my everything, I am hers. We put each other first, that I think is why we work so well together.
My first marriage was an utter horlicks - she even asked for a divorce on the day of our second wedding anniversary, having asked me to take a few days off work to drive down from Herts to Cornwall for 'something nice'.Thank Christ there were no kids involved..... Which reminds me, She was/is a nurse. We were trying for kids.
When it was evident that month that we were unsuccessful again, she turned to me asking why. I might have been more tactful in pointing out that in order to conceive, we actually needed to have had sex that month. She didn't sleep with me for another three weeks....
Anyway, back to the point. There are great marriages out there. I really hope that all find the perfect partner for them. I know I did. Eventually. After having a lot of fun.
Hi don,I am on my second marriage. We argue on average every two years. We have been together for nine years, and known each other for about forteen years. She is my everything, I am hers. We put each other first, that I think is why we work so well together.
My first marriage was an utter horlicks - she even asked for a divorce on the day of our second wedding anniversary, having asked me to take a few days off work to drive down from Herts to Cornwall for 'something nice'.Thank Christ there were no kids involved..... Which reminds me, She was/is a nurse. We were trying for kids.
When it was evident that month that we were unsuccessful again, she turned to me asking why. I might have been more tactful in pointing out that in order to conceive, we actually needed to have had sex that month. She didn't sleep with me for another three weeks....
Anyway, back to the point. There are great marriages out there. I really hope that all find the perfect partner for them. I know I did. Eventually. After having a lot of fun.
Without meaning to be rude you say you believe in marriage but youre divorced?!
Youre on your second marriage which may not last.
That, alone, to me, means marriage isnt a once in a lifetime thing
olly22n said:
Ari said:
olly22n said:
I'd echo what Don said. Marriage with the right person must be magical.
Unfortunately, i chose the wrong person the first time around, and I won't make that mistake for the second time.
But presumably you didn't find out you'd made a mistake the first time till afterwards...Unfortunately, i chose the wrong person the first time around, and I won't make that mistake for the second time.
For every man that says he loves his wife there may be a wife thinking ahe wants to leave her husband
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