Futility

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V8mate

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45,899 posts

191 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Does it bother you?

Do you ever consider your life and its daily machinations within the larger scheme? Does it depress you?

How many of us can genuinely say that what we do on a daily basis makes the world a better place? (‘world’ needn’t only refer to global)

Do you ever consider your life and wonder whether you are actually just wasting oxygen; just ticking along without really contributing? Taking more than you’re giving?

Or is the average person essential to the greater scheme? Is it important that people who were born with nothing, achieve very little and then die having done nothing of real note, exist in order to facilitate others?

Which leads on to asking what makes us happy? How do you find happiness when, for the vast majority of us, your life will achieve nothing? Do you ever wonder what will be going through your head when you’re in your 70s or 80s – sitting there with too much time on your hands, reflecting on your life and realising that you achieved nothing of worth? How will you reassure yourself that all those years of effort were worth it?

Is happiness just an illusion to cover the futility of life?

Eric Mc

122,186 posts

267 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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V8mate said:
Does it bother you?

Do you ever consider your life and its daily machinations within the larger scheme? Does it depress you?

How many of us can genuinely say that what we do on a daily basis makes the world a better place? (‘world’ needn’t only refer to global)

Do you ever consider your life and wonder whether you are actually just wasting oxygen; just ticking along without really contributing? Taking more than you’re giving?

Or is the average person essential to the greater scheme? Is it important that people who were born with nothing, achieve very little and then die having done nothing of real note, exist in order to facilitate others?

Which leads on to asking what makes us happy? How do you find happiness when, for the vast majority of us, your life will achieve nothing? Do you ever wonder what will be going through your head when you’re in your 70s or 80s – sitting there with too much time on your hands, reflecting on your life and realising that you achieved nothing of worth? How will you reassure yourself that all those years of effort were worth it?

Is happiness just an illusion to cover the futility of life?
My - you're a boring old codger already.

Take an interest in things and people and stop moping about yourself.

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

200 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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I was mulling this over yesteday. I had a massive barny at home with the missis, and went for a drive down to the coast. I came up with this. The earth, is tiny compaired to our galaxie, and that is miniscule compaired to the universe, and I am mineute compaired to the earth. So my actions and emotions are so totally insignificant that even if someone/thing where to look they would not even be noticable. But does it matter?

Yes. I just feel fortunate to have the time and leisure to ponder such things, because THAT matters.


It made me much calmer, as well as the pint of skrimshander i had...... wink

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

246 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Shelley said:
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
`My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away".
What is significance? In time all things will pass. Just try and enjoy yourself while you can.

Bill

53,033 posts

257 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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V8mate said:
How do you find happiness when, for the vast majority of us, your life will achieve nothing?
How do you measure achievement? Life is fundamentally about procreation, which pretty much any idiot can do, and anything else is just decoration.

If you feel you're not achieving anything perhaps you should lower your sights wink

isee

3,713 posts

185 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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I am constantly aware of the futility of life, though that makes me try and get more than I give back.
I KNOW I am just another drain on the planet's oxygen and resources.
It's rather depressing yes, and in a bitter attempt to show some sort of defiance I sometimes go out of my way to make the breaths depper and farts bigger. Though I sometimes sabotage my selfish existence by making charitable and good natured gestures wich really sets be back but I am working on it.

V8mate

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45,899 posts

191 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Bill said:
If you feel you're not achieving anything perhaps you should lower your sights wink
I wasn't necessarily reflecting my OP on myself. But your suggestion is worthy of assessment: people are always told to make sure they have goals and stick to them, yadda yadda but, again, what is that to achieve?

Most peoples goals will be worthless from a global perspective, so it simply means you'll achieve them (and thereby feel good for a while, until you ask yourself 'but what's next?') or you won't achieve them and the effort wuill have been in vain. Often that effort alone causes massive hardship in one way or another.

I'm struggling to see how to refute the expression 'life's st and then you die'.

Landlord

12,689 posts

259 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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anonymous said:
[redacted]
hehe

Edited by Landlord on Tuesday 27th April 08:45

V8mate

Original Poster:

45,899 posts

191 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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isee said:
I am constantly aware of the futility of life, though that makes me try and get more than I give back.
I KNOW I am just another drain on the planet's oxygen and resources.
It's rather depressing yes, and in a bitter attempt to show some sort of defiance I sometimes go out of my way to make the breaths depper and farts bigger. Though I sometimes sabotage my selfish existence by making charitable and good natured gestures wich really sets be back but I am working on it.
hehe

This may be the answer.

V8mate

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45,899 posts

191 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Landlord said:
anonymous said:
[redacted]
hehe

Edited by Landlord on Tuesday 27th April 08:45
You had to edit a single smilie response?

You're definitely in the 'taking more than you're giving' cadre hehe

TheCarpetCleaner

7,294 posts

204 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Bit of a pessamistic view here - but one which I have believed since I came into existance and was capable of thinking such things -

Your life is totally pointless. Along with everyone else's.

Everything you do amounts to nothing, as you as in yourself is simply a useless byproduct of your central nervous system which we call being alive.

Once you are dead, you will have no concept that you have ever been alive. Therefore anything and everything you do is utterly meaningless. In fact, this whole thing may as well be some kind of dream.

All those things you have gained in your life - house, money, cars, whatever takes your particular fancy, all useless as you cannot take them with you when you die. The only point in this life is to live it to the full and have fun, because this is it.

And would you believe - I actually take comfort in the above wink

V8mate

Original Poster:

45,899 posts

191 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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TheCarpetCleaner said:
Bit of a pessamistic view here - but one which I have believed since I came into existance and was capable of thinking such things -

Your life is totally pointless. Along with everyone else's.

Everything you do amounts to nothing, as you as in yourself is simply a useless byproduct of your central nervous system which we call being alive.

Once you are dead, you will have no concept that you have ever been alive. Therefore anything and everything you do is utterly meaningless. In fact, this whole thing may as well be some kind of dream.

All those things you have gained in your life - house, money, cars, whatever takes your particular fancy, all useless as you cannot take them with you when you die. The only point in this life is to live it to the full and have fun, because this is it.

And would you believe - I actually take comfort in the above wink
Agreed.

But raises the question: why do we then bother conforming to society's rules?

Bill

53,033 posts

257 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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V8mate said:
I'm struggling to see how to refute the expression 'life's st and then you die'.
You need to spend more time cocking aboutyes

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

200 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Bill said:
V8mate said:
I'm struggling to see how to refute the expression 'life's st and then you die'.
You need to spend more time cocking aboutyes
definatly this!

Just this morning i did a big fart on the toilet that made my willy jiggle in a odd manner. That made me laugh out loud, the missis thinks i'v got issues. Funny none the less.

Eric Mc

122,186 posts

267 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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V8mate said:
TheCarpetCleaner said:
Bit of a pessamistic view here - but one which I have believed since I came into existance and was capable of thinking such things -

Your life is totally pointless. Along with everyone else's.

Everything you do amounts to nothing, as you as in yourself is simply a useless byproduct of your central nervous system which we call being alive.

Once you are dead, you will have no concept that you have ever been alive. Therefore anything and everything you do is utterly meaningless. In fact, this whole thing may as well be some kind of dream.

All those things you have gained in your life - house, money, cars, whatever takes your particular fancy, all useless as you cannot take them with you when you die. The only point in this life is to live it to the full and have fun, because this is it.

And would you believe - I actually take comfort in the above wink
Agreed.

But raises the question: why do we then bother conforming to society's rules?
So as not to upset others.

At heart, the point of life is to get through it without upsetting to many other people - especially the people you love and care for.

Any other ambitions are usually fairly selfish.

ProfessorPeach

616 posts

173 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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V8mate said:
isee said:
I am constantly aware of the futility of life, though that makes me try and get more than I give back.
I KNOW I am just another drain on the planet's oxygen and resources.
It's rather depressing yes, and in a bitter attempt to show some sort of defiance I sometimes go out of my way to make the breaths depper and farts bigger. Though I sometimes sabotage my selfish existence by making charitable and good natured gestures wich really sets be back but I am working on it.
hehe

This may be the answer.
Brilliant.

fk 'em all.

bds.

ProfessorPeach

616 posts

173 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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V8mate said:
But raises the question: why do we then bother conforming to society's rules?
I like your thinking.

Holly Willoughby, right?

You're saying, what, I should just go for it, yeah?

Hessian sack over the head, you think?

Good idea.

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

229 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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How can life be futile in this week of all weeks?

I will be astounded if you are still pondering this at the end of Thursday evening.

hehe

V8mate

Original Poster:

45,899 posts

191 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Rocksteadyeddie said:
How can life be futile in this week of all weeks?

I will be astounded if you are still pondering this at the end of Thursday evening.

hehe
Well who better than to give an insight into the world of futility?

Tell us, RSE, when you were sitting on that bench, spilling your insides, almost exactly a month ago, what was going through your head?

V8mate

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45,899 posts

191 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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ProfessorPeach said:
V8mate said:
But raises the question: why do we then bother conforming to society's rules?
I like your thinking.

Holly Willoughby, right?

You're saying, what, I should just go for it, yeah?

Hessian sack over the head, you think?

Good idea.
You've moved your affections from Amanda Lamb? She eat too many doughnuts?