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Seen a few TV adverts for the MOBO awards. Music Of Black Origin apparently.
It irritates me a bit to be honest. Well, quite a lot in fact. In an age where we think before we speak to avoid saying anything that can be construed as prejudiced, racist, inflammatory or even slightly biased it's seemingly OK to identify and reward people whose musical roots are 'black'
If there was a MOWO for example then can you seriously imagine the furore that would surround? To ringfence music that originated from white people would be ridiculous.
Why does this MOBO award need to exist? We are all equal beings be we black, white, disabled etc etc are we not? So why do the black community who have fought for years and years to overcome racism allow themselves to be separated once more and viewed as a colour?
It irritates me a bit to be honest. Well, quite a lot in fact. In an age where we think before we speak to avoid saying anything that can be construed as prejudiced, racist, inflammatory or even slightly biased it's seemingly OK to identify and reward people whose musical roots are 'black'
If there was a MOWO for example then can you seriously imagine the furore that would surround? To ringfence music that originated from white people would be ridiculous.
Why does this MOBO award need to exist? We are all equal beings be we black, white, disabled etc etc are we not? So why do the black community who have fought for years and years to overcome racism allow themselves to be separated once more and viewed as a colour?
Shaw Tarse said:
TonyToniTone said:
I can use search too http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...Music Of Black Origin - it's a statement of fact, not a derogatory statement to a particular group of people.
The MOBOs gave, and continue to give, non-white artists a chance to be recognised for their achievements when the majority of the top musicians were, and had been for years, white. As such, it should be celebrated, not criticised as some anti-white protest.
The MOBOs gave, and continue to give, non-white artists a chance to be recognised for their achievements when the majority of the top musicians were, and had been for years, white. As such, it should be celebrated, not criticised as some anti-white protest.
MrBarry123 said:
Music Of Black Origin - it's a statement of fact, not a derogatory statement to a particular group of people.
The MOBOs gave, and continue to give, non-white artists a chance to be recognised for their achievements when the majority of the top musicians were, and had been for years, white. As such, it should be celebrated, not criticised as some anti-white protest.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but if there is one area where the black community is more than adequately represented, it is popular musicThe MOBOs gave, and continue to give, non-white artists a chance to be recognised for their achievements when the majority of the top musicians were, and had been for years, white. As such, it should be celebrated, not criticised as some anti-white protest.
Never mind all that, I'm going to do a parade round Manchester called "Straight Pride". Everyone is welcome from any colour or creed and I want you to wear your most flamboyant straight clothes - I'm thinking jeans and a polo shirt here. Maybe a jacket or coat if it's cold.
We'll have a chant and everything "I'm straight, it's great, I don't want to be late" or something like that.
We'll have a chant and everything "I'm straight, it's great, I don't want to be late" or something like that.
Negative Creep said:
MrBarry123 said:
Music Of Black Origin - it's a statement of fact, not a derogatory statement to a particular group of people.
The MOBOs gave, and continue to give, non-white artists a chance to be recognised for their achievements when the majority of the top musicians were, and had been for years, white. As such, it should be celebrated, not criticised as some anti-white protest.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but if there is one area where the black community is more than adequately represented, it is popular musicThe MOBOs gave, and continue to give, non-white artists a chance to be recognised for their achievements when the majority of the top musicians were, and had been for years, white. As such, it should be celebrated, not criticised as some anti-white protest.
lord trumpton said:
If there was a MOWO for example then can you seriously imagine the furore that would surround? To ringfence music that originated from white people would be ridiculous.
You've never seen the CMA's then? http://www.cmaworld.com/cma-awards/
lord trumpton said:
Seen a few TV adverts for the MOBO awards. Music Of Black Origin apparently.
It irritates me a bit to be honest. Well, quite a lot in fact. In an age where we think before we speak to avoid saying anything that can be construed as prejudiced, racist, inflammatory or even slightly biased it's seemingly OK to identify and reward people whose musical roots are 'black'
If there was a MOWO for example then can you seriously imagine the furore that would surround? To ringfence music that originated from white people would be ridiculous.
Why does this MOBO award need to exist? We are all equal beings be we black, white, disabled etc etc are we not? So why do the black community who have fought for years and years to overcome racism allow themselves to be separated once more and viewed as a colour?
Because of inequality. To be honest, you sound so stuck in a mindset from the 20s that you wouldnt really get it if it was laid out in white only. It irritates me a bit to be honest. Well, quite a lot in fact. In an age where we think before we speak to avoid saying anything that can be construed as prejudiced, racist, inflammatory or even slightly biased it's seemingly OK to identify and reward people whose musical roots are 'black'
If there was a MOWO for example then can you seriously imagine the furore that would surround? To ringfence music that originated from white people would be ridiculous.
Why does this MOBO award need to exist? We are all equal beings be we black, white, disabled etc etc are we not? So why do the black community who have fought for years and years to overcome racism allow themselves to be separated once more and viewed as a colour?
If you have to think before you speak it shows you have a mindset and viewpoint that you know will make more than a few faux pas, so you're hiding what you're actually thinking. Which reinforces the point that there needs to be more awareness and education, something that the MOBOs will probably give you.
surely there is no such thing any more as music of purely black origin, any more than there is music of white origin, as everything has been influenced by the other so much down the years that it is all a bit fatuous to claim otherwise.
No issue of course with getting more people involved with the non performing side of things if there is a demographic imbalance, but I wouldn't know about the industry myself.
No issue of course with getting more people involved with the non performing side of things if there is a demographic imbalance, but I wouldn't know about the industry myself.
MrBarry123 said:
Music Of Black Origin - it's a statement of fact, not a derogatory statement to a particular group of people.
The MOBOs gave, and continue to give, non-white artists a chance to be recognised for their achievements when the majority of the top musicians were, and had been for years, white. As such, it should be celebrated, not criticised as some anti-white protest.
Sorry but that finest statement is racist. The awards are for the music and not for "non-white" artists. They have often been won my white artists and no-one cares, as it's not about race but music that often wasn't as high profile in the past.The MOBOs gave, and continue to give, non-white artists a chance to be recognised for their achievements when the majority of the top musicians were, and had been for years, white. As such, it should be celebrated, not criticised as some anti-white protest.
We don't get the same bhing about the folk awards or country music so I guess the title is rather misleading.
wolves_wanderer said:
Ah, the annual MoBo thread
lol at annual thread bingo!, the poppy theread should be along any minute, see how many you can spot..."grrrrr at poppy oneupmanship"
"a sparkly poppy doesnt mean you care more"
"what if they are sold by the RBL?"
"i kept mine from last year"
"why dont people in my office respect the two minutes silence"
"I just go and stand outside even if its raining"
"does it matter anymore"
"is it just for WW2?"
Daily Mail link to supermarket staff told to remove poppy for fear of upsetting Muslims
ad nauseum...
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