Anyone got Prince2 / Project management quals?
Discussion
adycav said:
I have PRINCE2.
It's very highly regarded in the public sector/local government.
I'm currently involved in recruiting public sector Managers and it is listed as an 'essential' requirement in the person spec for some posts and a 'desirable' requirement in others.
It's a little dry but some of the pronciples are pretty useful. I'd do it.
In short, does it pay well?It's very highly regarded in the public sector/local government.
I'm currently involved in recruiting public sector Managers and it is listed as an 'essential' requirement in the person spec for some posts and a 'desirable' requirement in others.
It's a little dry but some of the pronciples are pretty useful. I'd do it.
dan101smith said:
Do you have PM experience already?
It depends how you class what I've been doing. I've been running a department providing training to 200 personnel for the last 3 years. this involves liaising with various outside agencies on contracts and a multitude of other jobs including instructional design and TNA stuff.....bigdods said:
Cara Van Man said:
dan101smith said:
Do you have PM experience already?
It depends how you class what I've been doing. I've been running a department providing training to 200 personnel for the last 3 years. this involves liaising with various outside agencies on contracts and a multitude of other jobs including instructional design and TNA stuff.....Prince2 training will give you a good grounding in all the project delivery disciplines then you will be able to work out where you fit and how much applies to the work you currently do
Edited by bigdods on Thursday 24th September 12:58
All good info, thanks.
The courses I have been offered are
1) Prince 2 Project Management (£1040 including vat + exam)
2) APMP Project Management (£900 including vat + exam)
from a lay point of view they appear much of a muchness......which way to go?
or do both?
Edited by Cara Van Man on Thursday 24th September 13:23
Pulse said:
fatbutt said:
I'm a PM in the Oil Industry and it wouldn't assist in any way for a job in this arena. You get to be a PM here by being a Project Engineer for a few years and learning how ultimately to be a PM. You learn about schedules, risk, cost control, etc. by being exposed to them and seeing them used in a real environment by your peers.
Call me old fashioned but if I was employing someone as a PM, a CV with a weeks course in PM mechanisms would sway me about as much as saying that you have an interest in stamp collecting. If you need the course to satisfy entry criteria for a job then fine, but don't think having it will open doors direct into being a PM. If you want some advice on getting into being a PM, lower your target and look for a position such as lead engineer or deputy PM rather than going straight for the top job.
I would agree with this. I got my job as a PM without Prince2, and at present don't intend to carry it out either. That said, there are a lot of employers who would want it as a minimum, so I would say to do it. I'm going to do mine at some point, if I feel I'm going to need it (and work will pay for it).Call me old fashioned but if I was employing someone as a PM, a CV with a weeks course in PM mechanisms would sway me about as much as saying that you have an interest in stamp collecting. If you need the course to satisfy entry criteria for a job then fine, but don't think having it will open doors direct into being a PM. If you want some advice on getting into being a PM, lower your target and look for a position such as lead engineer or deputy PM rather than going straight for the top job.
Also, as one of the first people to post has said... You may have the qualification, but if you've got no people skills, you've got no chance. Of course, from what I've seen on here, you are an excellent people person
With regards to APM. AFAIK, it's meant to complement Prince2, and has been designed to do so; so I would recommend doing both.
Edited by Pulse on Thursday 24th September 17:15
People close to me say that I am well suited to going into this area and I've been pretty successful in whatever I've done so far in my career.
All good info chaps....keep it coming!
randlemarcus said:
Look at it this way. When you've got stuff done in the past, you've known the stuff you had to do, and on top of that, the stuff you had to do to be able to get away with the stuff you wanted to do. You've had to fill out forms to start, forms to let people know where you are in the process, and forms to let people know you've finished, yes? Thats a project management framework. Prince2 is , in essence, a framework everyone knows, so that anyone looking at your project knows where you are when they poke their noses in. APM is a way of making sure that the framework you create (as an organisation, not just yourself) works. Prince gets you in the door, APM will help making sure everyone else knows you've done a good job.
So would you recommend doing both? I have the opportunity......
I want to make my CV impressive for when I step into the big wide world.
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