I don’t feel like I’m being taken seriously

I don’t feel like I’m being taken seriously

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Robmarriott

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2,641 posts

160 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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Bill said:
Lots of processed food and no exercise.

That's where I'd start.
Processed food is part of the curse of being single though. I’ve tried buying loads of fresh produce but it invariably gets thrown away because I can’t eat it quickly enough. Same with bread, a loaf of bread is too big for me to eat before it goes mouldy.

hotchy

4,495 posts

128 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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Robmarriott said:
Bill said:
Lots of processed food and no exercise.

That's where I'd start.
Processed food is part of the curse of being single though. I’ve tried buying loads of fresh produce but it invariably gets thrown away because I can’t eat it quickly enough. Same with bread, a loaf of bread is too big for me to eat before it goes mouldy.
Get a bigger freezer. Take 2 slices out when needed. Use that magic microwave for 10 seconds and the breads not frozen anymore. No wastage.

Bill

53,089 posts

257 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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hotchy said:
Get a bigger freezer. Take 2 slices out when needed. Use that magic microwave for 10 seconds and the breads not frozen anymore. No wastage.
+1

Likewise loads of veg can be frozen. Or meat from the 2 or 4 pack you bought. You have time, so learn to cook even if it's not everyday. Then take left overs in for lunch.

And you don't need breakfast, that's cereal company marketing. If you don't like having breakfast that's fine, but don't pile on a load of junk later to make up for it.

Robmarriott

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2,641 posts

160 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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hotchy said:
Robmarriott said:
Bill said:
Lots of processed food and no exercise.

That's where I'd start.
Processed food is part of the curse of being single though. I’ve tried buying loads of fresh produce but it invariably gets thrown away because I can’t eat it quickly enough. Same with bread, a loaf of bread is too big for me to eat before it goes mouldy.
Get a bigger freezer. Take 2 slices out when needed. Use that magic microwave for 10 seconds and the breads not frozen anymore. No wastage.
I know that would be the solution but my fridge freezer is concealed so the space is the space and even if I had the room, I don’t have the money to frivolously buy new appliances.

It’s easier to not buy bread.

Edit - there’s probably some room if I rearrange it a bit though.

Bill

53,089 posts

257 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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And start walking. Even if it's only 30 minutes a day. Exercise gets your gut moving too.

Robmarriott

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2,641 posts

160 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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Bill said:
hotchy said:
Get a bigger freezer. Take 2 slices out when needed. Use that magic microwave for 10 seconds and the breads not frozen anymore. No wastage.
+1

Likewise loads of veg can be frozen. Or meat from the 2 or 4 pack you bought. You have time, so learn to cook even if it's not everyday. Then take left overs in for lunch.

And you don't need breakfast, that's cereal company marketing. If you don't like having breakfast that's fine, but don't pile on a load of junk later to make up for it.
Yep, both valid points.

Exoticlover

284 posts

23 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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Robmarriott said:
Exoticlover said:
Microwave food and the legendary UK high street "meal deals". Eliminate these two, and add some breakfast. that will be gentle to your stomach and bowls.

Also buy apples, they dont perish easily.
The microwave option is categorically ‘sometimes’, not often.

Breakfast is a real struggle, always has been. I can’t do anything sweet or I feel nauseous, I normally don’t feel like I can eat until about 10:30 unless it’s something savoury, but then most of the savoury options I can buy aren’t exactly healthy, again, like I say, I’m not a good cook.

I see your point though and agree I can eat better.
Sorry to be so harsh, but you are giving a lot of resistance and stick to your current POV.

Naked, un-sweetened yoghurt is neither sweet nor savoury. that will give you power for the day.

and why not learn how to prepare food?

You also ignored the apple suggestion, they last long and are not expensive, they even do not have to be wrapped for travelling.

Edited by Exoticlover on Thursday 4th August 11:46

mcelliott

8,733 posts

183 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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Apple cider vinegar, Sauerkraut, and a good quality pro biotic together with a digestive enzyme will help you improve your gut health hugely.

Phil.

4,860 posts

252 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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Op, try going plant-based for a couple of weeks. Give your intestines a rest. Loads of good healthy plant-based (vegan) recipes available online. And the myth that eating more veggies makes more wind isn’t true.

Robmarriott

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2,641 posts

160 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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Exoticlover said:
Sorry to be so harsh, but you are giving a lot of resistance and stick to your current POV.

Naked, un-sweetened yoghurt is neither sweet nor savoury. that will give you power for the day.

and why not learn how to prepare food?

You also ignored the apple suggestion, they last long and are not expensive, they even do not have to be wrapped for travelling.

Edited by Exoticlover on Thursday 4th August 11:46
Didn’t ignore it, just didn’t specifically respond to it. I still took the suggestion in. Apples are the one thing I frequently buy for the reasons you mention.

I’m not sure about the yoghurt. I’m willing to give it a go but at first thought I don’t think it will work, I think it might cause the morning nausea from the consistency. Not saying no though.

As for the meal prep, it’s not like I haven’t tried, I’m just a st cook. I can just about make a bolognese, a chilli or a simple curry but not much else.

Robmarriott

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2,641 posts

160 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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mcelliott said:
Apple cider vinegar, Sauerkraut, and a good quality pro biotic together with a digestive enzyme will help you improve your gut health hugely.
I did try that for several weeks and it had no impact at all, other than to my wallet.

Robmarriott

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2,641 posts

160 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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Phil. said:
Op, try going plant-based for a couple of weeks. Give your intestines a rest. Loads of good healthy plant-based (vegan) recipes available online. And the myth that eating more veggies makes more wind isn’t true.
I’m not far off that already, so that wouldn’t be too big a step.

CinnamonFan

980 posts

198 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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Robmarriott said:
Phil. said:
Op, try going plant-based for a couple of weeks. Give your intestines a rest. Loads of good healthy plant-based (vegan) recipes available online. And the myth that eating more veggies makes more wind isn’t true.
I’m not far off that already, so that wouldn’t be too big a step.
Try no dairy for 3 weeks and see if the symptoms clear up.

Havent read all the thread though so sorry if this has been tried. Many people have lactose intolerance and live with the symptoms.

Robmarriott

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2,641 posts

160 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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CinnamonFan said:
Try no dairy for 3 weeks and see if the symptoms clear up.

Havent read all the thread though so sorry if this has been tried. Many people have lactose intolerance and live with the symptoms.
I’ve sort of tried that, I switched to lactose free milk and non-dairy ‘butter’. Other than that I really don’t consume any dairy intentionally at all, it’s extremely rare for me to have cheese and if I have chocolate it’s Lindt 70/80% dark which has no milk in the ingredients. I guess it could be in other stuff without me realising but I don’t think there would be enough in my diet for it to be causing these issues.

Exoticlover

284 posts

23 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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As mentioned before, track your eating habits for a couple of weeks. Including the "one off" XXL burger meal, extra bag of crisps, all that, especially things between meals, or late at night.

Also look at your life in general - your symptoms are not only pointing towards massive lack of exercise but also stress, lack of emotional balance.

Exoticlover

284 posts

23 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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Robmarriott said:
As for the meal prep, it’s not like I haven’t tried, I’m just a st cook. I can just about make a bolognese, a chilli or a simple curry but not much else.
These are take-out style meals. No need to be able to replicate junk food at home.

Go plain and simple. Rice or potatoes, boiled not fried. Olive oil, not ketchup, mayo or HP. Frozen vegs to add. Chicken breasts can be steamed and frozen, for later consumption. All these are simple, without side effects and relatively cheap, no waste.

And your Lindt dark chocolate is not going to help you in terms of constipation either. Fruit, as in grapes or apples or pears, will be better.

I have been through the same situation, it was malnutrition (which I did not want to admit) and no exercise.

Swervin_Mervin

4,479 posts

240 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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Have you tried cutting commercial bread out? Most of it is full of fats, and ime you can often ball the bread like uncooked dough - that's not going to do anyone's guts any favours. It's ste and it also reduces the life-span of the bread as well - loafs tend to go mouldy rather than stale. I'm not suggesting you go out and start buying £4 Bertinet loafs (albeit I've found they last for aaaaaages), or artisan sourdough, but there are some "loaves" that don't have all the crap in. In particular I've found that Sainsbury's in-store baked breads are largely free of all such muck.

They're lighter on the gut and they last much longer. I'd still recommend freezing as other have suggested though.

Beyond that I've found I feel much better when adopting a more continental approach to diet. That's not just more fuit and veg, but in particular they tend to stick to small amounts of meat and cheese for breakfast, with plain yoghurt and fresh fruit. My personal favourite is chopped fresh tomatoes on a slice of toast - has to fresh toms, not tinned, and you can chop them to a rough chop with a small mini-chopper/processor. Makes enough to go a few days.

As soon as I slip back into cereals for breakfast with loads of milk, I see a noticable impact in terms of not just acid reflux and bloating, but also I tend to find I just generally eat more over the course of a day.



Edited by Swervin_Mervin on Thursday 4th August 14:35

Robmarriott

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Thursday 4th August 2022
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Exoticlover said:
Robmarriott said:
As for the meal prep, it’s not like I haven’t tried, I’m just a st cook. I can just about make a bolognese, a chilli or a simple curry but not much else.
These are take-out style meals. No need to be able to replicate junk food at home.

Go plain and simple. Rice or potatoes, boiled not fried. Olive oil, not ketchup, mayo or HP. Frozen vegs to add. Chicken breasts can be steamed and frozen, for later consumption. All these are simple, without side effects and relatively cheap, no waste.

And your Lindt dark chocolate is not going to help you in terms of constipation either. Fruit, as in grapes or apples or pears, will be better.

I have been through the same situation, it was malnutrition (which I did not want to admit) and no exercise.
Good point about those meals although I was only using them as examples, my most common evening meal will be rice, veg and some sort of protein (tuna, grilled white fish, chicken, scrambled eggs (by which I mean eggs in a dry pan, wiggled around with a spatula until they're cooked, nothing added)), no added sauce, just that with some black pepper. Not every day though and maybe that's what I need to try for a longer period of time to see if it helps.

Also re the chocolate, it's an occasional thing, I'm not Augustus Gloop. It'll be one square of it in just to satisfy the cravings.

All that said, I agree with your last point. I used to be a fat and lost weight by having a basically non existent calorie intake and doing loads of running.

Food isn't an easy thing for me. I'm constantly worried about slipping back in to old habits where I would demolish a pizza and a half in one sitting, or 20 chicken nuggets, a wrap and a cheeseburger from McDonalds... I used ready meals as a way to control my calorie intake at the time, as bad as they are compared to real food, the pre-portioned nature of them meant that I wasn't piling my plate high and wiping it clean with 2 slices of bread and butter afterwards. Now, thinking about cooking for myself and working out how and what and if that is the problem is a big step, so apologies if I've seemed defensive or argumentative in my replies.

As for the exercise, I am 100% in agreement. Sitting down for all my waking hours is not a good idea.

Exoticlover

284 posts

23 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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The "slipping into old habits" part is worth a closer look, also whether you use food as consolidation etc.

Phil.

4,860 posts

252 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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Robmarriott said:
I’ve sort of tried that, I switched to lactose free milk and non-dairy ‘butter’. Other than that I really don’t consume any dairy intentionally at all, it’s extremely rare for me to have cheese and if I have chocolate it’s Lindt 70/80% dark which has no milk in the ingredients. I guess it could be in other stuff without me realising but I don’t think there would be enough in my diet for it to be causing these issues.
You need to give up dairy altogether. There are lots of alternative milks and vegan cheeses. Try a few different types. It takes a few tries to find what you prefer. Then cut out meat and eggs for a while. At their very least you will observe a reduction in inflammation in your body.