4 weeks I'm in your hands!!!

4 weeks I'm in your hands!!!

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Muzzer79

10,227 posts

189 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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02verco said:
Would not eating help?
As in missing food altogether?

No. Absolutely not. There's a term for that - it's called Anorexia...

Eat 3 meals a day but eat good food.

No alchohol. At all.
No bread or pasta - nothing high carb.
No snacking.

Run, row, swim as often as you can.


02verco

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158 posts

133 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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What would bed the best food for breakfast and lunch?

I never usually eat breakfast or have lunch,

What would be the best foods to eat?

I always cook and eat a lot of different things, what do I need to totally avoid apart from the list you have just said and what do I need to eat the most of?

Muzzer79

10,227 posts

189 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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You need to eat a low fat, low calorie diet but one which will still give you fuel for your exercise.

There's plenty of apps available to record what you eat and tell you the cals.

You seriously eat once a day? Nothing in between? That's madness if you do....

Example:

Breakfast:
Cereal (portion controlled) w/skimmed milk

Lunch
Mixed salad with Tuna, no mayo.

Dinner
Grilled meat/fish with steamed vegetables

Drink plenty of water.

This will not be fun but you should be able to lose 3-4lb per week doing that.

theshrew

6,008 posts

186 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Eat as much veg as you like obv without going crazy.

Protien ie Chicken, turkey, eggs, steak and fish are all good for you.

Things to avoid stuff with simple carbs in. White bread, White potatoes, White rice + pasta etc. Also dont snack on stuff, drink pop or alcohol.

Get to the gym or run etc. Whatever it is you do just give it 100% As long as your not eating to many calories you should loose some chubber

amare32

2,417 posts

225 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Good luck OP in trying to shape up before your holiday however, giving yourself 4 weeks to do this is a bit of a task. Rome wasn't built in a day etc.

Do not starve yourself whatsoever, you need to eat clean... don't cut carbs out as you need fuel for your training. I don't know what your current weight, height or BF percentage so difficult to get an idea of what you're trying to achieve.

Let's say some bloke is built likes James Corden and wishes to get muscled up and ripped like Hugh Jackman in X-MEN in 4 weeks - they ain't got a hope in hell of achieving this biggrin

Now we have great weather, get out there and play sports as much as you can, eat well, lift some weights and sleep well. That'll go a long way to shape up a bit before you go away.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

249 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Start using Herbalife. Everyone I've seen that uses it seems to lose +10lbs in the first week alone. boxedin

Hoofy

76,601 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Breakfast? I had 4 chicken wings and a handful of nuts.

Low fat diet? What the fk is this? 1982?

02verco

Original Poster:

158 posts

133 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Okay so I'm 6ft and 13 stone and in my 20's


Just about to walk the dogs then off to the gym,

02verco

Original Poster:

158 posts

133 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Centurion07 said:
Start using Herbalife. Everyone I've seen that uses it seems to lose +10lbs in the first week alone. boxedin
What is it?

Hoofy

76,601 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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02verco said:
Centurion07 said:
Start using Herbalife. Everyone I've seen that uses it seems to lose +10lbs in the first week alone. boxedin
What is it?
I think he was taking the piss. It's usually "heavy people" marketing Herbalife dieting products.

nagsheadwarrior

2,786 posts

181 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Defo hit the gym but can you cycle commute too,i only do a 5 mile each way commute but thats 1800 calories which should be nearly 1lb a weeks worth on top of the gym.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

249 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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I'd be surprised if a 5 mile ride is worth 900 calories. Depends how quick you go I s'pose.

Efbe

9,251 posts

168 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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WinstonWolf said:
Hoofy said:
www.myfitnesspal.com is a good logging tool. Has a free app, too.
yes It's excellent, I've lost 18lb far quicker than I would have without it.

I've discovered that with the exception of Weetabix and porridge all breakfast cereals are evil.
i'll third this one. an awesome application for your phone.

really does help you watch what you eat and think about it a lot more. If you aim to beat your goal on this by a further 300-500 calories a day(not including exercise) then you should be able to lose about 8 pounds in 4 weeks.

The rest will be down to pure exercise, and lots of it. as other have said, something you enjoy, and lots and lots, maybe an hour a day swimming/cycling/running etc

Efbe

9,251 posts

168 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Centurion07 said:
I'd be surprised if a 5 mile ride is worth 900 calories. Depends how quick you go I s'pose.
I think he means like this:

I will guess at an average 15mph on a bike for 5 miles = roughly 20 mins time. This would equate for the average person to 275 calories burned.

a pound of fat is supposed to equal around 3500calories. so that's 6.36 days of commuting to lose a pound of fat.

nagsheadwarrior

2,786 posts

181 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Yep,but 5 miles each way so 10 a day,according to Strava over my commute thats 300 cals used so 1800 a week as i work 6 or at the mo 7 days a week.

Didnt realise its 3500cals to lose a pound tho so thats circa .5lbs a week for me though cycling.

With the gym 5 days a week i consistently lose 1 to 1.5lbs a week which kind of stacks up as the diets good but not hardcore.

02verco

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158 posts

133 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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nagsheadwarrior said:
Defo hit the gym but can you cycle commute too,i only do a 5 mile each way commute but thats 1800 calories which should be nearly 1lb a weeks worth on top of the gym.
No I can't it's 20 miles each way and I need my car at all times (work car)

02verco

Original Poster:

158 posts

133 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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I have just done 2 hours in the gym, 5k meters rowing and 6.8k run and then weights. Just going around tesco for food for tonight and lunch smile

Hoofy

76,601 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Next time, do weights first as you'll have more energy to lift heavier which will have a bigger impact on your shape.

mattikake

5,061 posts

201 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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4 weeks. lol You plebs watch too much TV. Lets convert this total lack of realism into walking (which is a good, easy, effective and most of all for your goals, maintainable, calorie burner)

1 stone = 56,700kcals in pure fat

1km walking at a good pace = 60kcals
Burning 56,700kcals in pure fat = 945km walk

945km in 4 weeks = 33.75km walk per day.


But if only it were that simple. This assumes you do not eat a single thing. Assuming you don't want to die of malnutrition, you will eat food. If you do eat a single thing, say about 1500kcals per day, then your 945km walk just became a 1645km walk.

And that's assuming the moment you started walking, you instantly started burning fat. But you'd have roughly 100kcals of glycogen in your working muscles and 500kcals of stored glycogen in your liver. At least half of your liver stores are probably going redistributed to your working muscles, if not all, so really, walking at a good pace it not going to burn any fat in the first 5-6km of each walk, so if you do go walking, you need to do at least an hour a time.... and not eat for quite some time afterwards. Really you'd need to do your walk all in one go.

And that's assuming you had a diet that was very low in carbs or was ketogenic. You'd also need to quit rice, potatoes, pasta, bread, grains, legumes, most fruit, most veg, most nuts...

And that's assuming a ketogenic diet kicked in immediately, which it won't. It can take 2-3 weeks to get into full effect. 7 days at the minimum, so the 1st-3rd week of your efforts would be minimally effective.

So all this effectively leaves you 1 week to cover 1,645km, preferably in a single go. Get started on the ketosis now... and quit your job, dump your missus, sell your bed (and your TV (and stop buying tabloid papers while you're at it)). You'll be fiiiine...

OTOH if you just want to lose 1 stone in any weight, I say go for burning some muscle and internal organs, easily achieved by jumping off a ferry in the middle of the Atlantic. If you manage to make it home, you'll have lost your stone and then some!

wink

Edited by mattikake on Thursday 18th July 00:10

02verco

Original Poster:

158 posts

133 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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mattikake said:
4 weeks. lol You plebs watch too much TV. Lets convert this total lack of realism into walking (which is a good, easy, effective and most of all for your goals, maintainable, calorie burner)

1 stone = 56,700kcals in pure fat

1km walking at a good pace = 60kcals
Burning 56,700kcals in pure fat = 945km walk

945km in 4 weeks = 33.75km walk per day.


But if only it were that simple. This assumes you do not eat a single thing. Assuming you don't want to die of malnutrition, you will eat food. If you do eat a single thing, say about 1500kcals per day, then your 945km walk just became a 1645km walk.

And that's assuming the moment you started walking, you instantly started burning fat. But you'd have roughly 100kcals of glycogen in your working muscles and 500kcals of stored glycogen in your liver. At least half of your liver stores are probably going redistributed to your working muscles, if not all, so really, walking at a good pace it not going to burn any fat in the first 5-6km of each walk, so if you do go walking, you need to do at least an hour a time.... and not eat for quite some time afterwards. Really you'd need to do your walk all in one go.

And that's assuming you had a diet that was very low in carbs or was ketogenic. You'd also need to quit rice, potatoes, pasta, bread, grains, legumes, most fruit, most veg, most nuts...

And that's assuming a ketogenic diet kicked in immediately, which it won't. It can take 2-3 weeks to get into full effect. 7 days at the minimum, so the 1st-3rd week of your efforts would be minimally effective.

So all this effectively leaves you 1 week to cover 1,645km, preferably in a single go. Get started on the ketosis now... and quit your job, dump your missus, sell your bed (and your TV (and stop buying tabloid papers while you're at it)). You'll be fiiiine...

OTOH if you just want to lose 1 stone in any weight, I say go for burning some muscle and internal organs, easily achieved by jumping off a ferry in the middle of the Atlantic. If you manage to make it home, you'll have lost your stone and then some!

wink

Edited by mattikake on Thursday 18th July 00:10
So how do you know all this information ( I am amazed!) I have/had no idea and this is what I was wishing for was somebody to tell me if / can it be done. So if that is the case is it better to focus on toning up rather than losing weight?