Smokers taking the p*ss at work.

Smokers taking the p*ss at work.

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AlexKP

16,484 posts

246 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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At the end of the day are they doing their job well?

I take frequent mini-breaks (I am not a smoker at work, but have the odd little cigar of an evening), here on PH for example or go for a stroll, but then I start work very early, finish quite late and when I am working I go at it like a demon and produce large amounts of high quality work in a short, feverishly intense timescale.

It's always been my working style. I work best in fits and starts of very high speed, not consistent continuous effort.



Edited by AlexKP on Thursday 2nd April 13:04

cjs

10,793 posts

253 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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We will not employ smokers. As well as time wasting, they are usually smelly and are unfit. They also have more colds and coughs which they then spread around.

Edited by cjs on Thursday 2nd April 13:03

f13ldy

1,432 posts

203 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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My old job has guidelines of taking a break from any VDU for 5-10 minutes every hour.

This was convienantly timed with a ciggy break (when I was smoker).

DamoLLb

1,775 posts

197 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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IMHO their pay should be deducted pro-rata.

Cotty

39,691 posts

286 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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satchbot said:
I work with VDUs and get a 10 minute break every hour or a 20 minute break every two hours.
Of course everyone gets those paperbag

captainzep

13,305 posts

194 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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I'm not a smoker.

But I wholeheartedly support the notion of fag breaks.

The '...but what about all the smokers and their breaks?...' defence is notionally lined up as a contingency in my overall PH browsing related disciplinary case.


mat205125

17,790 posts

215 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Funny how no one was complaining about the smokers "taking the piss" a month ago in the howling gales, and torential rain

Romanymagic

3,298 posts

221 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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You could always try suggesting your company institutes what ours did. From the new holiday entitlement year, all workers who had not smoked for the previous year were entitled to two extra days annual leave per year than the smokers (to compensate for not taking smoking breaks). Worked a treat.

carreauchompeur

17,864 posts

206 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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cjs said:
We will not employ smokers. As well as time wasting, they are usually smelly and are unfit. They also have more colds and coughs which they then spread around.

Edited by cjs on Thursday 2nd April 13:03
rofl Don't sit on the fence hehe

ewenm

28,506 posts

247 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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mat205125 said:
Funny how no one was complaining about the smokers "taking the piss" a month ago in the howling gales, and torential rain
Maybe they weren't taking so many breaks...

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Yes its a tad annoying, there are a pair of women in my office who spend nearly 2 hours outside smoking and nattering every day. One of them is the manager of the team, so little is said, yet she has the audacity to chastise other members of the team for the smallest infractions.

I'm a smoker myself but I only have a ciggie after eating my lunch, within my designated lunch hour.

marsred

1,042 posts

227 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Eddh said:
However you seem to find time to post on PistonHeads during the day?
So PHers who smoke are about as unproductive an employee as you can get wink

Ewan S

1,295 posts

229 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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At least they go outside or into a smoking room these days. My boss used to smoke in his office regardless of the weather and the stink used to waft through into the main office I'm in next door.

Since the smoking ban he buggers off outside and we get some peace and quiet while he does so. And in a rant best suited to another topic the bloke is such a cheapskate he won't pay the £50 to get rid of 3 pallets of catalogues to a local recycling place (who'll collect) when we can put them pack by pack into our sister companies recycling bin instead. Which will take weeks as there's only so many you can dispose of at one time.

maxrider

2,481 posts

238 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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I can remember when I first started work in the mid 80's and you were allowed to smoke AT your desk paperbag

We had a receptionist/typist that chain smoked Rothmans all day long.

scotal

8,751 posts

281 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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anonymous said:
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Please tell me that's repeated on your resume somewhere.

Romanymagic

3,298 posts

221 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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maxrider said:
I can remember when I first started work in the mid 80's and you were allowed to smoke AT your desk paperbag

We had a receptionist/typist that chain smoked Rothmans all day long.
I remember that as well. We had corporate ashtray's! Hard to believe now really.

carreauchompeur

17,864 posts

206 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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scotal said:
anonymous said:
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Please tell me that's repeated on your resume somewhere.
It sounds like the line on the CV by that prat on the Apprentice last night that provoked intense mirth!

chris watton

22,477 posts

262 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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captainzep said:
I'm not a smoker.

But I wholeheartedly support the notion of fag breaks.

The '...but what about all the smokers and their breaks?...' defence is notionally lined up as a contingency in my overall PH browsing related disciplinary case.
It’s funny reading some of these comments. I worked for almost two years in Italy and virtually everyone smokes (They can smoke inside, as the ban is at the discretion of the company owners, providing they have the required air con/filters)

Out of the thirty or so workers, only one had more than a week off, and very few have days off through illness, despite them being ‘rancid, coughing unhealthy smokers’!
Also, when other companies in our field are trying to save cash and winding down somewhat, we are actually investing in new stuff! All from a place that has 80% smokers! trying to link crap workers with smoking is petty in the extreme.

The lazy, ill, rancid smoker thing must be only an English problem – if all you have to worry about is someone else’s fag break, you really haven’t got it so bad.

Oversteer

247 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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I find that I work best taking regular breaks, it's helpful to have some
"thinking time". I don't suppose it matters much what I'm doing during these
breaks. I think it's more about what you get done overall than presenteeism
or whatever they call it, perhaps not if you're in a call centre or working
on a reception desk though.

It's quite likely that if you're contributing more to the business you're
working in that you'll get paid more and have better promotional opportunities.

Edited by Oversteer on Thursday 2nd April 13:39

rev-erend

21,434 posts

286 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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There are many peope being made redundant in many industries..

Don't think that companies do not take account of :

Sick leave taken
benefits paid
Smokers taking excessive breaks..

Keep your head down mate and keep working smile