What training are you doing/have you done today? Vol.2

What training are you doing/have you done today? Vol.2

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22s

6,344 posts

218 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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mu0n said:
Still getting into the swing of things since holiday.

Shoulders up to 40kg DB’s x 6 for seated military press, ~60kg EZ bar curls x 5, reverse cable flies s/s with front raises.

I want to start Wendler 5/3/1 next week. I’ve got the app – any pointers? My training buddy is worried it’s starting off too light.
It's not too light at first - it seems that way but you need to get over your ego and do the lighter weights.

Once you've done 3 power sets, then 5 supplemental sets on deadlift/squat/bench/shoulders, you will see it's not too light!

didelydoo

5,533 posts

212 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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22s said:
It's not too light at first - it seems that way but you need to get over your ego and do the lighter weights.

Once you've done 3 power sets, then 5 supplemental sets on deadlift/squat/bench/shoulders, you will see it's not too light!
I think it is too light, progress is slow, and it becomes boring... I ran it for quite a long time when I started out too. I also think it lacks volume; I'd often leave the gym feeling like I'd not pushed myself.

I much prefer something with higher volume and intensity, but that's just me.

mu0n

2,348 posts

135 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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Well, I put my numbers into the app and for bench it is telling me:

5x45
5x55
3x70
5x75
5x85
5+95

The first few sets look pointless to me – I don’t understand what even 3 reps of 70 will achieve, let alone 5 reps of 45!?

I will give it a go, but it’s making me sceptical. I realise the final set will be something like 10x95kgs but that sounds more like hypertrophy training than strength. I hope to be proved wrong.

deadmau5

3,197 posts

182 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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didelydoo said:
22s said:
It's not too light at first - it seems that way but you need to get over your ego and do the lighter weights.

Once you've done 3 power sets, then 5 supplemental sets on deadlift/squat/bench/shoulders, you will see it's not too light!
I think it is too light, progress is slow, and it becomes boring... I ran it for quite a long time when I started out too. I also think it lacks volume; I'd often leave the gym feeling like I'd not pushed myself.

I much prefer something with higher volume and intensity, but that's just me.
What supplementary exercises did you do?

I train it 4-5 times a week, e.g. Monday - front squat, Tuesday - MP, Wednesday - off, Thursday - DL, Friday - Bench, Saturday - off, Sunday - front squat(next week) or off.

Prior to that I've been doing five day split for about a year which I was getting pretty bored of.

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

181 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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First session after 5 days of man flu. Still coughing and sniffing and rattling like a geriatric with emphysema. General upper body stuff just to take the edge off not training since Friday

deadmau5

3,197 posts

182 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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mu0n said:
Well, I put my numbers into the app and for bench it is telling me:

5x45
5x55
3x70
5x75
5x85
5+95

The first few sets look pointless to me – I don’t understand what even 3 reps of 70 will achieve, let alone 5 reps of 45!?

I will give it a go, but it’s making me sceptical. I realise the final set will be something like 10x95kgs but that sounds more like hypertrophy training than strength. I hope to be proved wrong.
I've just been messing around on the app and I've found another 'function'. Click on the 5/3/1 icon on the bottom left, then on the top left click on the two cogs. You can change the format from Fresher to Heavier or Powerlifter or set your own.

Regiment

2,799 posts

161 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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mu0n said:
Well, I put my numbers into the app and for bench it is telling me:

5x45
5x55
3x70
5x75
5x85
5+95

The first few sets look pointless to me – I don’t understand what even 3 reps of 70 will achieve, let alone 5 reps of 45!?

I will give it a go, but it’s making me sceptical. I realise the final set will be something like 10x95kgs but that sounds more like hypertrophy training than strength. I hope to be proved wrong.
Read this, seems to go through the points you brought up about it
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports...

AnonSpoilSport

12,955 posts

178 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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Regiment

2,799 posts

161 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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3.1mile treadmill run in 21:39.

Halb

53,012 posts

185 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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Sounds interesting BMW, if I had the cash or time! biggrin

AnonSpoilSport

12,955 posts

178 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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Halb said:
Sounds interesting BMW, if I had the cash or time! biggrin
Me too - and 20 years off the clock!

TheBALDpuma

Original Poster:

5,853 posts

170 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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Happy with todays efforts...

Sub max DL day
3 x 5 at 175kg

RDL
3 x 5 at 160kg

Max shoulder day
5s up to failure at 70kg - not great tbh!

Upright row
3 x 5 at 60kg

didelydoo

5,533 posts

212 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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Today>

Bench:
3x 60,80,100kg
5x 115kg
10x 100kg (CG)

Clean & Strict:
3x 60,70,80kg

BHN Strict:
3x 60,60,60kg

Dips:
3x BW, +20kg
7x +40kg

Delt superset stuff.

Fin.

Ok, still a weak presser if I don't use my legs, top half of the press is strong. Getting better though.

dirty boy

14,718 posts

211 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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Squats
10 x 20kg
10 x 40kg
8 x 60kg
8 x 70kg

Calf raises
12 x 70kg
12 x 70kg
12 x 70kg

Goblet squats
10 x 24kg
10 x 24kg
10 x 24kg

Abdominal work.




22s

6,344 posts

218 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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didelydoo said:
22s said:
It's not too light at first - it seems that way but you need to get over your ego and do the lighter weights.

Once you've done 3 power sets, then 5 supplemental sets on deadlift/squat/bench/shoulders, you will see it's not too light!
I think it is too light, progress is slow, and it becomes boring... I ran it for quite a long time when I started out too. I also think it lacks volume; I'd often leave the gym feeling like I'd not pushed myself.

I much prefer something with higher volume and intensity, but that's just me.
Fair enough.

The point is that you absolutely smash the first three sets, especially the last one. I found with this "only three sets this session so make 'em count" mentality I could lift a lot and would be smashed once I finished the third set.

Then having to do five more sets of squats or whatever, plus the final exercise - it was enough volume for me.

I guess everyone trains differently and prefers different routines, though!

smiffy180

6,018 posts

152 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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My workout tonight:
1x cheezeburger
1x donner meat
1x cheesey chips.

All 1RM lifts aswell hehe

Regiment

2,799 posts

161 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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Week 1 - Day 3

Full Squats
5 x 82.5
5 x 95
7 x 107.5kg (predicted 1 rep max of 132.5kg) - happy with this, still have DOMS in my hamstrings a little from the stiff leg deadlifts on Wednesday night so could have done more with better legs, holding back a bit as well with the long run tomorrow.

Plate loaded leg press
3 x 15 at 200kg - should have been 5 x 15 but saving my legs for my big run tomorrow, normal day for big run is Sunday but want to push to 13.1 miles so didn't want to push my legs tonight to far.

Swiss ball crunches
5 x 20


AnonSpoilSport

12,955 posts

178 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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Bent over rear laterals - 2 x 50lb cables = 30 per arm


Seated lateral to front raises - 2 x 20lb, 90 degree bench = 1 x 44 per side; i.e. one lateral raise per side, then one front raise, then side raise and on...

Single arm standing Grappler press - 133lb = 1 x 5, 1x 4, 1 x 5, 1 x 6; got angry - radio story on in background, that awful child abuse case - during this and it gave me an extra rep or two on the last two sets; not a recommended way to do it though :-(

then a pump set at 70lb = 1 x 28(l) and 1 x 24(r); gone again - gives me the best 'tearing' feeling in the delts than anything, other than very high rep supersets with the Bulgarian Bag.

Rear lateral raises face down on 45 degree incline bench - 20lb = 1 x 16

Seated lateral raises 45 degree incline - 20lb = 1 x 28(l), 1 x 32(r)

Standing EZ curls - 85lb = 1 x 15 then 9 then 12 then 10 then 8 with variable short pauses between 'sets'

Seated dumbell curls - 45 degree incline 2 x 40lb = 1 x 12

Standing Hammer curls - 2 x 40lb = 1 x 15

Single arm dumbbell wrist curls - 1 x 20lb (!) = 50 reps per side; hurts!

Halb

53,012 posts

185 months

Saturday 21st September 2013
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Did Grace again, down to 4 minutes. This was a few hours after a Parkrun and I had just done come calf work, so I wasn't so zapped.
Did heavy bag routine, my own ab circuit, did intend to complete the Long Cycle, but shoulders were fried after heavy bag.

didelydoo

5,533 posts

212 months

Saturday 21st September 2013
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Today:

18" deadlift:

3x 10, 140, 180kg
1x 220, 240, 260kg
FFF 275kg couldn't shift it....
2x 240, 240kg

Chins/pullups:
reps every 30 seconds until 50 reps.

18" deadlift:
5x 240kg
1x 275kg (PR?)
positive mental attitude biggrin

BOR:
100kg reps every 30 seconds until 50 reps.

Good, got into my groove and got 275 fairly easily. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gah4YzHfLug )

Targets for the end of the year:
250kg squat
300kg 18" deadlift
100kg strict press
140kg OH

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