What training are you doing/have you done today? Vol.2

[militantmandy]

Pvapour said:

dont see how that would help me bench tbh i guess i do more of what feels right, i like to pull my feet off the ground and cross my legs to allot of the time, both keep me more controlled and focussed on the chest, gripping tightly would make me feel like i was afraid i couldnt handle the weight.

If you want to move the most weight then squeeze the bar and drive with your feet.

[Pvapour]

nail on head, amount of weight not important to me, the numbers are just a measure, i can quite easily focus my aggresion without strangling the bar tbh.

[Digger]

As an aside I was advised by one trainer, not others mind you, to avoid DB front raises as that is a non-functional movement that may induce shoulder impingement. Given I have slight rotator instability I thought I may as well take the advice onboard, although I've started adding them again.

I do do a couple of functional movements to try to keep the issue at bay as well.

Any one else heard this?

[Pvapour]

yep, same with upright rows and press behind the neck.

asked on here what others thought and it was 50/50 deecided that after 30 years performing them with no injuries its obviously not the case for me, everyone is different though.

[Hoofy]

Bloody hell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJscKGDnPS8

[Digger]

Bloody cheapskate more like. Can't even afford a proper rack!!

[Hoofy]

Digger said:

Bloody cheapskate more like. Can't even afford a proper rack!!

Spent it all on plates.

[militantmandy]

Hoofy said:

Bloody hell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJscKGDnPS8

if i tried that it would very quickly end up on the next gym fail compilation


Good session this morning:

6x4 squats @80%
5x10 shurgs @RPE8
3 sets of 24 steps walking lunges with 25kg dumbells (ARARARGARGHAGHARGHR)


Squats feel strong but he lowbar position is giving me a lot of (temporary) elbow pain. Any thoughts? Widen grip maybe? Since the last video I put up I've sorted my hands in terms of griping the bar properly and my elbows are down and forwards.

[didelydoo]

militantmandy said:

Squats feel strong but he lowbar position is giving me a lot of (temporary) elbow pain. Any thoughts?

Shoulder dislocates will sort you out- it's likely tight pecs/bi's and lats that'll result in sore wrists. Dislocates should work wonders in around a week if you do them every day. Sorted me right out. Thumbless grip will also help lots if you don't already do it.

Wrist wraps will help in the mean time, and generally.

[militantmandy]

didelydoo said:

Shoulder dislocates will sort you out- it's likely tight pecs/bi's and lats that'll result in sore wrists. Dislocates should work wonders in around a week if you do them every day. Sorted me right out. Thumbless grip will also help lots if you don't already do it.

Wrist wraps will help in the mean time, and generally.

Performed with a big stick yeah? Thanks for that. Something easy to add in. I already use wrist straps but am but thumbless so will try that too.

Cheers!

[TheJimi]

I'm kinda of the opinion that unless you *have* to do low bar (ie competition) then high bar is a better bet.

Just my opinion, mind.

[militantmandy]

TheJimi said:

I'm kinda of the opinion that unless you *have* to do low bar (ie competition) then high bar is a better bet.

Just my opinion, mind.

Because it has more mobility related issues? As with sumo I am moving to it as I can move more weight and because I like learning new things. If it were to transpire that no matter what I do mobility wise, it still really hurts, I'll probably switch back to high bar.

I am considering competing but it very much depends on how my numbers progress. Have a comp picked out in may. We'll see how my numbers are looking!

[TheBALDpuma]

militantmandy said:

Because it has more mobility related issues? As with sumo I am moving to it as I can move more weight and because I like learning new things. If it were to transpire that no matter what I do mobility wise, it still really hurts, I'll probably switch back to high bar.

I am considering competing but it very much depends on how my numbers progress. Have a comp picked out in may. We'll see how my numbers are looking!

Which Comp?

[militantmandy]

TheBALDpuma said:

Which Comp?

Apologies. I was talking pish. It's the Scottish seniors in September. Don't know where I got may from!

[TheBALDpuma]

militantmandy said:

TheBALDpuma said:

Which Comp?

Apologies. I was talking pish. It's the Scottish seniors in September. Don't know where I got may from!

Ahh right - didn't know where you lived, and my regional is May so thought it could be Yorkshire!

[Pvapour]

from its name I'm guessing 'sumo' is a really wide stance? thus bringing the bar closer to you and making it easier so you can pull more numbers?

I'm interested in the powerlifters psyhe as there's a distinct difference to my own (and allot of bodybuilders) even dd who is trying to be more bb orientated is still hooked on the numbers rather than symetry.

is it something you get addicted to and that drives you forward with your motivation with little consideration to anything else? are some of you 50/50 between the weight and how well balanced you look?

not criticising as i think i'm just as hooked on symetry (was before bb) and asthetics. (a reason a dont like the modern bodybuider look tbh, nature looks beatifull to me, not the vascular monsters of today)

Edited by Pvapour on Monday 16th November 12:56

[didelydoo]

Pvapour said:

from its name I'm guessing 'sumo' is a really wide stance? thus bringing the bar closer to you and making it easier so you can pull more numbers?

I'm interested in the powerlifters psyhe as there's a distinct difference to my own (and allot of bodybuilders) even dd who is trying to be more bb orientated is still hooked on the numbers rather than symetry.

is it something you get addicted to and that drives you forward with your motivation with little consideration to anything else? are some of you 50/50 between the weight and how well balanced you look?

not criticising as i think i'm just as hooked on symetry (was before bb) and asthetics. (a reason a dont like the modern bodybuider look tbh, nature looks beatifull to me, not the vascular monsters of today)

Edited by Pvapour on Monday 16th November 12:56

Both strength and Aesthetics are equally addictive- my strength training only days are likely over as BB is my new found passion. However.... I still think you can build symmetry with strength, a lot of the old time BB's trained heavy, and looked great because of it- they possessed a 'thickness' that a lot of BB's lack. I'm not hooked on numbers (mostly), but the look I'd like to get needs strength behind it. Build the strength up, and you can train the symmetry/aesthetic side of things harder too. I think I've now got a reasonable mix/split of strength and aesthetics now- hitting all the angles, rep ranges and muscle fibres- best of both worlds if you will. I don't want to be limited to training in a particular way- many of the greats trained heavy and pumpy, either in the same session or split into phases.

Besides, I want to be strong as well as look it. And I just love training heavy, or light in fact, I just love training! Vascular modern day monster isn't my cup of tea, golden era beast however- some time away, but i'll get there.

Edit to add- I may do an offseason powerlifting comp next year too, so that's always a side project.

Edited by didelydoo on Monday 16th November 13:30

[Johnny]

Legs this morning, somewhat curtailed by needing to be back home for 1300.

The new belt is really helping, even if only as a placebo!

Squats:1x10@60/70/80/90/90/100/80/70/60/60kg
Leg Press 5x10@200kg
Ham Curls 5x15@35kg
Leg Ext 5x15@35kg

Best numbers ever for squats so I'm a fking happy chap! Only ever managed 2, maybe 3 reps @100kg before so 10 was a nice feeling.

[TheBALDpuma]

Pvapour said:

from its name I'm guessing 'sumo' is a really wide stance? thus bringing the bar closer to you and making it easier so you can pull more numbers?

I'm interested in the powerlifters psyhe as there's a distinct difference to my own (and allot of bodybuilders) even dd who is trying to be more bb orientated is still hooked on the numbers rather than symetry.

is it something you get addicted to and that drives you forward with your motivation with little consideration to anything else? are some of you 50/50 between the weight and how well balanced you look?

not criticising as i think i'm just as hooked on symetry (was before bb) and asthetics. (a reason a dont like the modern bodybuider look tbh, nature looks beatifull to me, not the vascular monsters of today)

Edited by Pvapour on Monday 16th November 12:56

Sumo is wide stance, toes out and narrow grip. Some find it more confortable to pull big weights; it puts their back more upright, and requires a shorter distance to lockout, therefore less work done to lift the bar.

It's a sport - I train to be good at it like a sprinter trains to be fast, or a tennis player trains to be good at tennis. I want to be able to lift as as much as I can come competition. In terms of the aesthetic side of it, I like that being strong makes me bigger but I am not fussed about being lean, and ripped - happy with big and bulky. TBH being big is faily important to me - I'd hate to be skinny. But I'd rather be 93kg and carrying some fat (like I am now) than 80kg, and ripped. Obviously 93kg and ripped would be awesome - but also will take a while and I'd have to cut down on the coffee and cake I eat - not a sacrfice I'm willing to make at the moment . Not sure if I'd rather be 105kg and carrying the fat I am now, or current weight 93kg but ripped... 105kg and fat would be a lot easier lol. But at 5ft 8 I'd probably be pretty round.

[TheJimi]

militantmandy said:

TheJimi said:

I'm kinda of the opinion that unless you *have* to do low bar (ie competition) then high bar is a better bet.

Just my opinion, mind.

Because it has more mobility related issues? As with sumo I am moving to it as I can move more weight and because I like learning new things. If it were to transpire that no matter what I do mobility wise, it still really hurts, I'll probably switch back to high bar.

I am considering competing but it very much depends on how my numbers progress. Have a comp picked out in may. We'll see how my numbers are looking!

After doing LB for yonks and getting into HB work last year, I've realised that HB is better in just about every way for me, apart from total weight lifted. I still haven't hit my max lowbar weight using highbar, but I'll get it soon.

Just as you'll get me saying that HB is superior to LB, you'll just as easily get peeps saying the opposite, and yet different peeps again saying that the difference between the two is minimal.

Edit - and yes, LB does bring with it mobility issues that don't really exist with HB. Sometimes those issues can be fixed, as per diddely's suggestion above, and other times people will just eventually realise that LB just isn't for them.