PH Transformation Thread 2012 - Chat

PH Transformation Thread 2012 - Chat

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Hoofy

76,592 posts

284 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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You may well plateau some distance before your ideal weight, mind...

Oh, if you start getting fed up with all the healthy food, have a cheat day and treat yourself.

Also, consider this: as an example, if all you've been eating is Mars Bars and suddenly you restrict yourself to salads, that'd be the toughest diet to maintain in the world. Making it easier by eating 50% Mars Bars and 50% salads will mean you're more likely to endure the new lifestyle. And then you make it 25% Mars Bars... before you know it, you are no longer into Mars Bars.

People yoyo diet because they go hell for leather with diets. So they're really strict for 3 weeks or so, lose some weight, get fed up with what they're forcing themselves to eat and give up; they then go crazy with a binge fest and end up several stones heavier. Loop infinitely.

If volume is your enemy (it is), then perhaps knock off 10% of what you eat every month or so. Slowly but surely you will lose weight.

Hoofy

76,592 posts

284 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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You can eat terrible food and lose weight easily enough... http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.d...

Plus how many fat people do you know who eat home-cooked, often healthy food? Yep, you can't count the number - there are too many. Well, at least for me, most of the people I know eat home-cooked and healthy food and are overweight, constantly scratching their heads, unwilling to listen.

Once again, note that I am not condoning eating st food but merely trying to help you understand what is what.

Hoofy

76,592 posts

284 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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nottinghamblue said:
entering the specific amounts you burn is just as good.
Yeah, that's fine on machines but if he does "other" stuff, it's harder to compute and MFP's estimates can encourage you to overeat.

GBDG

896 posts

156 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Hoofy said:
You can eat terrible food and lose weight easily enough... http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.d...

Plus how many fat people do you know who eat home-cooked, often healthy food? Yep, you can't count the number - there are too many. Well, at least for me, most of the people I know eat home-cooked and healthy food and are overweight, constantly scratching their heads, unwilling to listen.

Once again, note that I am not condoning eating st food but merely trying to help you understand what is what.
But most people don't know what healthy food is. I always use the example of home made spag bol, most people would see It as "healthy" meal. In reality, it's likely to be as bad as a burger and chips. I was like this for a long time.

Hoofy

76,592 posts

284 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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GBDG said:
But most people don't know what healthy food is. I always use the example of home made spag bol, most people would see It as "healthy" meal. In reality, it's likely to be as bad as a burger and chips. I was like this for a long time.
Hehe, this is true.

What's wrong with spag bol? White pasta?

Actually, what do you put in it? Maybe you add something a little naughty?

From BBC:
Serves 6-8
Ingredients
2 tbsp olive oil or sun-dried tomato oil from the jar
6 rashers of smoked streaky bacon, chopped
2 large onions, chopped
3 garlic cloves, crushed
1kg/2¼lb lean minced beef
2 large glasses of red wine
2x400g cans chopped tomatoes
1x290g jar antipasti marinated mushrooms, drained
2 fresh or dried bay leaves
1 tsp dried oregano or a small handful of fresh leaves, chopped
1 tsp dried thyme or a small handful of fresh leaves, chopped
Drizzle balsamic vinegar
12-14 sun-dried tomato halves, in oil
Salt and freshly ground black pepper
A good handful of fresh basil leaves, torn into small pieces
800g-1kg/1¾-2¼lb dried spaghetti
Lots of freshly grated parmesan, to serve

Is this really that terrible?

Mind you, it's irrelevant. Eat 1500 calories' worth in the entire day and nothing else will see you not putting on weight.


Edited by Hoofy on Thursday 26th April 23:01

GBDG

896 posts

156 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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spag bol isn't so bad (and it's bloody lovely). The main thing is that it's easily 1,000+ calories per portion.

It's usually super high fat, as mince can be 20%+ fat and this is absorbed into the sauce, rather than cooked off. White pasta isn't bad food, but if you're inactive then it's a lot of carbs. Often the sauces people use are super high sugar and salt. Finally, there's a ceremonial covering in cheese.

Not a bad meal really, but very easy to put on weight eating food like this.

Ordinary_Chap

Original Poster:

7,520 posts

245 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Ok who has been filming Hoofy again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

nottinghamblue

59 posts

155 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Hoofy said:
Hehe, this is true.

What's wrong with spag bol? White pasta?

Actually, what do you put in it? Maybe you add something a little naughty?

From BBC:
Serves 6-8
Ingredients
2 tbsp olive oil or sun-dried tomato oil from the jar
6 rashers of smoked streaky bacon, chopped
2 large onions, chopped
3 garlic cloves, crushed
1kg/2¼lb lean minced beef
2 large glasses of red wine
2x400g cans chopped tomatoes
1x290g jar antipasti marinated mushrooms, drained
2 fresh or dried bay leaves
1 tsp dried oregano or a small handful of fresh leaves, chopped
1 tsp dried thyme or a small handful of fresh leaves, chopped
Drizzle balsamic vinegar
12-14 sun-dried tomato halves, in oil
Salt and freshly ground black pepper
A good handful of fresh basil leaves, torn into small pieces
800g-1kg/1¾-2¼lb dried spaghetti
Lots of freshly grated parmesan, to serve

Is this really that terrible?

Mind you, it's irrelevant. Eat 1500 calories' worth in the entire day and nothing else will see you not putting on weight.


Edited by Hoofy on Thursday 26th April 23:01
If you divide all the ingredients by 6 and put them out in front of you, then i'd suggest that it is quite lot of food. As mentioned before, home cooked food as a lot of people prepare it does have a lot of calories in it. Also what a lot of people tend to do with 'healthy food' such as pasta and the like is eat far too much, making it an unhealthy meal.

In regards to the 'twinkie diet', yes, im sure that sort of diet does mean weight loss is on the cards, but as a lifestyle change? definitely not.

Sushi

858 posts

202 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Ordinary_Chap said:
Ok who has been filming Hoofy again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...
Outstanding!

Hoofy

76,592 posts

284 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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GBDG said:
spag bol isn't so bad (and it's bloody lovely). The main thing is that it's easily 1,000+ calories per portion.

It's usually super high fat, as mince can be 20%+ fat and this is absorbed into the sauce, rather than cooked off. White pasta isn't bad food, but if you're inactive then it's a lot of carbs. Often the sauces people use are super high sugar and salt. Finally, there's a ceremonial covering in cheese.

Not a bad meal really, but very easy to put on weight eating food like this.
Ah, just you said it's unhealthy. So you're agreeing with me, then.

Hoofy

76,592 posts

284 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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nottinghamblue said:
If you divide all the ingredients by 6 and put them out in front of you, then i'd suggest that it is quite lot of food. As mentioned before, home cooked food as a lot of people prepare it does have a lot of calories in it. Also what a lot of people tend to do with 'healthy food' such as pasta and the like is eat far too much, making it an unhealthy meal.

In regards to the 'twinkie diet', yes, im sure that sort of diet does mean weight loss is on the cards, but as a lifestyle change? definitely not.
Yes, I appreciate that which is my point above!

Hoofy

76,592 posts

284 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Sushi said:
Ordinary_Chap said:
Ok who has been filming Hoofy again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...
Outstanding!
Thank you! As clearly demonstrated, benching can be used to train the calves, too! Well, calf. We all know it's a compound exercise which means it works the entire body. What you can't see is that the toes are also flexed to work the feet. One day, I'll teach OC how it's done and he can finally graduate from his pink vinyl dumbbells.

Ordinary_Chap

Original Poster:

7,520 posts

245 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Hoofy said:
Sushi said:
Ordinary_Chap said:
Ok who has been filming Hoofy again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...
Outstanding!
Thank you! As clearly demonstrated, benching can be used to train the calves, too! Well, calf. We all know it's a compound exercise which means it works the entire body. What you can't see is that the toes are also flexed to work the feet. One day, I'll teach OC how it's done and he can finally graduate from his pink vinyl dumbbells.
rofl

Hoofy

76,592 posts

284 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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<changes his identity and takes a one way ticket to somewhere far away>

Sushi

858 posts

202 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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oh and so you can all be grossed out, I've added my fat pic to the original thread.

GBDG

896 posts

156 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Does anyone use wrist straps for training? I'm finding that when training back, the other points in the chain (arms, grip) are the weak link, and I find it hard to work back muscles to failure before everything else has given out. Also, on the machine, I am having to go above body weight, which means that pulling the bar down can be a challenge!

Ordinary_Chap

Original Poster:

7,520 posts

245 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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GBDG said:
Does anyone use wrist straps for training? I'm finding that when training back, the other points in the chain (arms, grip) are the weak link, and I find it hard to work back muscles to failure before everything else has given out. Also, on the machine, I am having to go above body weight, which means that pulling the bar down can be a challenge!
I use straps once my grip fails for things like deadlifting.

I only use the straps once my grip fails as this gives my grip chance to improve rather than just relying on straps.

Halb

53,012 posts

185 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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I have started doing RDLs again, and I switch to powergrabs once my grips gives up.
Interesting to see how my grip has disappeared from last year.


Got this from the link put up a few posts ago. Some nasty neck snaps there. Also what is this letting go of the bar thing? It seems to happen a lot.
Is that Grover at number two?biggrin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUZYeTbyzzQ&fea...

LordGrover

33,556 posts

214 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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The spotter quality leaves a little to be desired... scratchchin

Harry Flashman

19,460 posts

244 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Chaps, a question.

I have lots of muscle. I also have a bit of fat (look great with clothes on, a little wobbly around the middle with them off.

I drink too much at the weekend, which probably doesn't help.

Diet/exercise tips to maintain my current muscle, but lose about half a stone to a stone of fat?

I want my nice body back!