Steroid abuse linked to Mental health issues
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23613517
Can't say I'm surprised. I wonder if a more detailed study will be instigated as a result of these initial findings?
Can't say I'm surprised. I wonder if a more detailed study will be instigated as a result of these initial findings?
Why between 1960 - 1979, steroid use back then wasn't as prolific and the steroids were a lot less powerful than they are at the minute. It's hard to see any link though especially when you've got guys like Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, etc who have no, as far as I'm aware, mental issues.
Regiment said:
Why between 1960 - 1979, steroid use back then wasn't as prolific and the steroids were a lot less powerful than they are at the minute. It's hard to see any link though especially when you've got guys like Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, etc who have no, as far as I'm aware, mental issues.
Jay cutlet wears eye liner. Nuff said 
Lol, didnt know that, you have to be a little nuts I suppose to want to be a bodybuilder.
There are cases over the past decade or so where steroids have been hyped up and blamed for a lot of the professional wrestler deaths, rather than all the painkillers and the lifestyle and also for Chris Benoit as well who had mental problems with the head injuries he had, but because he had steroids in his blood, the media said it was road rage. Road rage, as far as I'm aware, gets you hot headed for a short period of time, if you're susceptible, and not extended periods of violence.
Could the linked study just prove that men who are susceptible to mental health issues are more likely to use steroids rather than the other way round?
There are cases over the past decade or so where steroids have been hyped up and blamed for a lot of the professional wrestler deaths, rather than all the painkillers and the lifestyle and also for Chris Benoit as well who had mental problems with the head injuries he had, but because he had steroids in his blood, the media said it was road rage. Road rage, as far as I'm aware, gets you hot headed for a short period of time, if you're susceptible, and not extended periods of violence.
Could the linked study just prove that men who are susceptible to mental health issues are more likely to use steroids rather than the other way round?
Regiment said:
Could the linked study just prove that men who are susceptible to mental health issues are more likely to use steroids rather than the other way round?
Addiction to anything can lead to mental health issues. Once you accept even normal steroid use can lead to both physical and psychological addiction it's a given that the abuse of steroids will have even worse consequences.Steroid addiction...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2316741
http://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/202...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22969009
king around with your hormones.NeMiSiS said:
This link seems to go briefly into a number of studies on the matter, gotten from your link above.http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/uk/moataposs...
Still annoys me that people are still portraying Chris Benoit as being due to steroid use and only detailing his brain damage within the story.
Body building or excessive excercising/top level sport in general are obsessive past times, as does being very good at anything... It requires an element of nuttyness. To qualify this report you'd need to compare the findings against the same questionanire asked to people who take steroids for purely medical reasons, mind you they'd have their own set of mental health issues...
I think it could be argued that those who are into heavy bodybuilding and who become fanatical about it to the point of using every advantage may well have issues inside themselves driving it in the first place, which'll fall into the broad brush of mental health. It's not specific enough to get anything from that though unless you dig into it a bit more
andy-xr said:
I think it could be argued that those who are into heavy bodybuilding and who become fanatical about it to the point of using every advantage may well have issues inside themselves driving it in the first place, which'll fall into the broad brush of mental health.
Possibly, though an obsessive dedication to your sport is not restricted to bodybuilding/weightlifting. Overconformity and deviant overconformity are behaviours displayed far more in sports like athletics and cycling. It is not a mental health 'issue' in the sense issue equates to illness. There are also a number of other psycho-social factors (such as neutralisation techniques, differential association, commercialisation of sport etc.) that drive this kind of behaviour in sportspeople.Fanaticism is a common trait for humans. Bodybuilders/athletes are no different. As I always explain to clients, humans are self-indulgent animals and this means everyone is addicted to something. Doesn't matter if it's exercise, drugs, sex, their children, food, soap operas, lazing about... everyone has something that they do to the max, knowingly or unknowningly. The trick is to find something healthy to get addicted to.
It's more likely that 'roid munching unnaturally exacerbates the effort-reward system that has everyone is designed to serve, and this causes somesort of cascading positve-feedback loop that ends up with mental retardation of some form due to the use-it or lose-it nature of the brain.
It's more likely that 'roid munching unnaturally exacerbates the effort-reward system that has everyone is designed to serve, and this causes somesort of cascading positve-feedback loop that ends up with mental retardation of some form due to the use-it or lose-it nature of the brain.
Halb said:
A lot of wrestlers have died under their 50s from 'heart issues'. I would bet the vast majority are directly linked to steroid abuse.
It's not just steroids that they are/were using and abusing, it's other illegal drugs andthings like pain killers that were also a massive issue. You then have the stress of the job as well, a top level professional wrestler's life is filled with travel, training and performing infront of ten thousand people+millions on TV.Regiment said:
It's not just steroids that they are/were using and abusing, it's other illegal drugs andthings like pain killers that were also a massive issue. You then have the stress of the job as well, a top level professional wrestler's life is filled with travel, training and performing infront of ten thousand people+millions on TV.
Yes I know, they abuse everything. I would say considering the heart issues so many die from, steroids are the biggest culprit.Ordinary_Chap said:
So you're guessing then which is fair enough.
I'd be more inclined to put it down to the alcohol, class A drugs and excess if I were guessing.
Any substance in extreme quantities will cause the same effect.
Yes, guessing (like everyone else), since I'm not a doctor and not investigated or researched the deaths. Been a fan of wrestling for years (got a set of PowerSlam mags if anyone wants them? I'd be more inclined to put it down to the alcohol, class A drugs and excess if I were guessing.
Any substance in extreme quantities will cause the same effect.
). I'm sure other drugs play their part, just as I'm sure the largest (not all, it's not all or nothing) portion of blame can be laid at the foot of a particular type of drug. There are those that overdose on painkillers like Bobby Duncum, and those that die from 'heart related' issues, like Davey Boy
If class A drugs cause enlarged hearts, then maybe. The autopsies for some wrestlers seem to point to something. Dying with an enlarged heart happens a lot for superstars.
BenM77 said:
@Halb
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Hope you have a big, 'Whoooooooooooooooooo.' and then strutted around the room like a cockerel.OT but did I mention I shook hands with Triple H and Ric Flair.
New York Toys R Us 2004
Whooo
Ordinary_Chap said:
Having an enlarged heart on its own may not be a problem
It's a big problem when it's caused by steroids because the myocardia, the muscle that surrounds the heart becomes much thicker so the heart has to work harder to pump the blood. BP rises dramatically. The thing is that an enlarged heart caused by aerobic exercise (normally LVH) is a natural reaction whereas steroids simply make the heart muscle grow along with every other muscle. Someone who exercises a lot aerobically will be very fit and have a low HR and BP. Someone who just does weights will have very little cardiac fitness and when his heart muscle thickens...BANG. Possibly.EDIT: Spelling
Edited by goldblum on Monday 27th May 22:52
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