Vaping and headaches

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Crush

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15,078 posts

171 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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I do not smoke or vape, but a chap I know does.

The trouble is that I am ending up with headaches and a sort of anxiety when we train and it seems to have started when he switched to vaping instead of cigarettes. (Which does during the briefings prior to training).

I don't know anyone else that vapes so I cannot really test myself on someone else laugh was just wondering if anyone apart from me was suffering a similar issue from 'secondhand vape'. It could be something else but seems too much of a coincidence.

I would bring it up with him but don't want to put him off doing it as he has almost quit the cigarettes!

Sammo123

2,118 posts

183 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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I get exactly the same thing. My Boss and my Cousins all vape and if I'm around them I get a pounding headache from the smoke. I just tend to keep away if they're vaping.

CorbynFTW

12,232 posts

196 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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Wonder if this is from the nicotine...


Crush

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15,078 posts

171 months

Saturday 19th September 2015
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Glad I'm not the only one. Seems to numb my senses too (if that's understandable!)

Interesting comment on the nicotine, I had read that it can have far higher levels than a normal cigarette.

Cheers for the responses!

stevoknevo

1,686 posts

192 months

Sunday 20th September 2015
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Crush said:
Glad I'm not the only one. Seems to numb my senses too (if that's understandable!)

Interesting comment on the nicotine, I had read that it can have far higher levels than a normal cigarette.

Cheers for the responses!
It's unlikely to be nicotine which is giving you a headache - many of the toxicology tests have identified that little to no nicotine is exhaled from e-liquid vapour, and that passive vapour poses no significant risk to humans (unlike smoking) This was one of the first articles I found in the briefest of searches http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23033998

Dr Konstantinos Farsolinos is is probably the seminal e-cigarette researcher currently, here is a link to an article/table outlining Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) measured http://www.ecigarette-research.org/research/index....

The main components of exhaled e-liquid vapour are Propylene Glycol (PG) Vegetable Glycerine (VG) Nicotine and Flavouring - the exhaled nicotine is in very low amounts compared to the inhaled nicotine, circa 0.5%. E-liquid vapour also doesn't linger as long as cigarette smoke.

I'd guess that you have an intolerance to PG (cheap liquids have an 80%+ PG level) or that the flavouring is causing it?

I'd ask him to stop vaping around you and explain the symptoms, I'm sure he'll be receptive and respect your wishes - I do vape but am very mindful of others; some vapers think that as it isn't smoking they can vape wherever they like.

Crush

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15,078 posts

171 months

Sunday 20th September 2015
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stevoknevo said:
It's unlikely to be nicotine which is giving you a headache - many of the toxicology tests have identified that little to no nicotine is exhaled from e-liquid vapour, and that passive vapour poses no significant risk to humans (unlike smoking) This was one of the first articles I found in the briefest of searches http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23033998

Dr Konstantinos Farsolinos is is probably the seminal e-cigarette researcher currently, here is a link to an article/table outlining Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) measured http://www.ecigarette-research.org/research/index....

The main components of exhaled e-liquid vapour are Propylene Glycol (PG) Vegetable Glycerine (VG) Nicotine and Flavouring - the exhaled nicotine is in very low amounts compared to the inhaled nicotine, circa 0.5%. E-liquid vapour also doesn't linger as long as cigarette smoke.

I'd guess that you have an intolerance to PG (cheap liquids have an 80%+ PG level) or that the flavouring is causing it?

I'd ask him to stop vaping around you and explain the symptoms, I'm sure he'll be receptive and respect your wishes - I do vape but am very mindful of others; some vapers think that as it isn't smoking they can vape wherever they like.
Thanks.

I'll have a word with him, just didn't want to make a tit of myself if it could be something other than the vape laugh

Funnily enough, in the past my migraines have been triggered by strong smells e.g bleach aisles in a supermarket. I guess PG could be having a similar effect? I'll look into that too smile

I have noticed that the 'smell' of the vape seems to cling to me for a few hours after the training, so I guess it could be the flavouring. It is hard to describe the sensation, but it feels like a film over my skin and clothing.

Thanks again!

dave_s13

13,828 posts

271 months

Sunday 20th September 2015
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Vaping is for the weak.

Either give up completely or just stick to proper fags. At least they look cool and you're still propping up the health care system.

I don't get any symptoms from 2nd hand vape but it smells horrible to me.

J8 SVG

1,468 posts

132 months

Monday 21st September 2015
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dave_s13 said:
Vaping is for the weak.

Either give up completely or just stick to proper fags. At least they look cool and you're still propping up the health care system.

I don't get any symptoms from 2nd hand vape but it smells horrible to me.
I get that you don't like Vaping but saying you don't like the smell is like saying you don't like the smell of food - there are so many flavours that you're more than likely to enjoy the smell of at least a few!!

On topic, I would definitely ask him kindly not to do it near you, he should respect that without too much fuss and hopefully the symptoms die down

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

241 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2015
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I've got a problem with my ears that I think could be related to vaping, just wish I could find another way to get my nicotine irked