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At the risk of being ridiculed...
I'm 21 6ft 5, 14.5 stone (BMI is 24.7) I think!
I was going to the gym every day for a while, got out of routine for 4 weeks with exams and what not,but I'm starting to get back into going every day.
One thing I can't seem to shift though is the moobs! Has anybody had any success in shifting them? Any certain training plans that work? Over to you PH...
I'm 21 6ft 5, 14.5 stone (BMI is 24.7) I think!
I was going to the gym every day for a while, got out of routine for 4 weeks with exams and what not,but I'm starting to get back into going every day.
One thing I can't seem to shift though is the moobs! Has anybody had any success in shifting them? Any certain training plans that work? Over to you PH...
SeeFive said:
Reportedly, it could be the beer. Keep up the abstinence and let us know what happens 
My son-in-law mastered in sports science and was a basketball player and trainer in his old country (Tunisia), from a Muslim family who did not drink - so he rarely did either. He came to the UK 18 months ago, is now 26, still goes to the gym, but now drinks some beer - sometimes quite a lot of it. When he is on the beer heavier, he starts to get moobs. When he stops, they go away with no other change in his lifestyle.
Cutting out the beer and exercising as some have said should help. But I would suggest that building muscle under the moobs will probably not make them go away too quickly.
If you want to lose fat, do the work to get the muscles lean, and do cardio as well. My old trainer firmly believed that lean muscle burns more calories than fatty muscle. I tend to believe him. He also held that quads and glutes burn more calories than any other muscle as they are the biggest, so if you have a cross trainer or bike, go for it with high resistance for 20-30 minute a day. If you can stand the impact (I can't), running burns a lot of calories without the expensive machinery.
I am working on my chest at the moment too, but at 52 I have to work quite a bit harder than you youngsters. After a couple of months on free weights (bench presses, incline / decline, pec flys etc) and lots of cardio on bike and cross trainer, things are getting better. I have knocked off a stone and toned up quite a lot, but still have the rare beer or six. Eating lots of fruit, salad, fish, chicken and pasta (fresh sauces, not jars) in smaller portions but more frequently. Avoiding bread, potato, fried food and bad fats, and no complex carbs before bedtime if I can avoid it. Drinking gallons of water and squash - especially in the gym. Sounds crap, but actually it is quite varied.
Like you though, still a bit to go on the lower chest. I reckon the multi-gym I got delivered today should help me focus - quite a nice tool, a Proteus Studio 5 with the bigger stack. Now going to be hitting a 7 day ripping routine for the forseeable future until I am happy with my state (lots of reps (25-40), 5 sets, mid weights) ensuring not to overtrain by missing muscle groups for 2 days and having a couple of days cardio only (well maybe a few crunches if nobody is looking).
If any of that has helped your thinking, then I am glad.
If all this hard work fails, I guess I will stop ripping, go pyramid bulking on the chest and get a job in a titty bar
I've got 8 weeks till a significant even in my life (Not a wedding or anything), just a major change at work. My target is to be noticeably different by then. So far this week I've been to the gym 3 times. Did a lot on arms/chest tonight, then did 10 mins on rowing machine,2 mins on the highest resistance on the bike (I was knackered after this!), then did another 10 mins on the rowing machine. Was in for an hour and a half. My son-in-law mastered in sports science and was a basketball player and trainer in his old country (Tunisia), from a Muslim family who did not drink - so he rarely did either. He came to the UK 18 months ago, is now 26, still goes to the gym, but now drinks some beer - sometimes quite a lot of it. When he is on the beer heavier, he starts to get moobs. When he stops, they go away with no other change in his lifestyle.
Cutting out the beer and exercising as some have said should help. But I would suggest that building muscle under the moobs will probably not make them go away too quickly.
If you want to lose fat, do the work to get the muscles lean, and do cardio as well. My old trainer firmly believed that lean muscle burns more calories than fatty muscle. I tend to believe him. He also held that quads and glutes burn more calories than any other muscle as they are the biggest, so if you have a cross trainer or bike, go for it with high resistance for 20-30 minute a day. If you can stand the impact (I can't), running burns a lot of calories without the expensive machinery.
I am working on my chest at the moment too, but at 52 I have to work quite a bit harder than you youngsters. After a couple of months on free weights (bench presses, incline / decline, pec flys etc) and lots of cardio on bike and cross trainer, things are getting better. I have knocked off a stone and toned up quite a lot, but still have the rare beer or six. Eating lots of fruit, salad, fish, chicken and pasta (fresh sauces, not jars) in smaller portions but more frequently. Avoiding bread, potato, fried food and bad fats, and no complex carbs before bedtime if I can avoid it. Drinking gallons of water and squash - especially in the gym. Sounds crap, but actually it is quite varied.
Like you though, still a bit to go on the lower chest. I reckon the multi-gym I got delivered today should help me focus - quite a nice tool, a Proteus Studio 5 with the bigger stack. Now going to be hitting a 7 day ripping routine for the forseeable future until I am happy with my state (lots of reps (25-40), 5 sets, mid weights) ensuring not to overtrain by missing muscle groups for 2 days and having a couple of days cardio only (well maybe a few crunches if nobody is looking).
If any of that has helped your thinking, then I am glad.
If all this hard work fails, I guess I will stop ripping, go pyramid bulking on the chest and get a job in a titty bar
Sleep wise (I've been up till 2 every night since sunday) and up at 6.30 for work, so not sleeping alot, but feel I have more enengy?? Have been drinking a lot of coffee tho.
Congrats on losing the stone tho. I'd love a multigym in my flat but as I can barely swing a cat in it, it would certainly be the focal piece of my living room. Mind you, I could double up the seat as a dining table.
SeeFive said:
In my smallest spare bedroom, I have a cross trainer, compact bike, multi gym, and still floor area for weights, push ups/crunches etc. It is only about 10x8 at a guess but it all fits in and is usable.
As above, watch the big bang start, it is not good for you.
When I kicked off, the resistances were set lower on the machines and the cardio times / /sets / reps much lower than now. Free weights were lighter and gradually increased over weeks so the workout remained challenging over the same reps, but not killing. I've now run out of weights to add for some exercises, which is a shame as I prefer free weights, but with no spotter, it is getting a bit dangerous. So it is a change of plan to focus on the worst areas now, and switch to the multigym.
I should still get done in 60-75mins per day depending on the specific day's schedule. Weekends are shorter as mainly cardio.
As mentioned, diet is sorted (God I miss ready salted crisps) but need to get more sleep - only 4-5 hours a night on average but then again, I have never slept much. I feel energised every day though and not too many aches due to the gradual increase in the workout. No illness apart from flu picked up on a recent long haul flight, and a minor hamstring tighness for a week or so which I think was not related to the gym work.
So as the man above says, take it easy for a while, feel your way in and gradually build up. If you have 8 weeks, you still have lots of time to make a difference without hurting yourself.
Good advice. As above, watch the big bang start, it is not good for you.
When I kicked off, the resistances were set lower on the machines and the cardio times / /sets / reps much lower than now. Free weights were lighter and gradually increased over weeks so the workout remained challenging over the same reps, but not killing. I've now run out of weights to add for some exercises, which is a shame as I prefer free weights, but with no spotter, it is getting a bit dangerous. So it is a change of plan to focus on the worst areas now, and switch to the multigym.
I should still get done in 60-75mins per day depending on the specific day's schedule. Weekends are shorter as mainly cardio.
As mentioned, diet is sorted (God I miss ready salted crisps) but need to get more sleep - only 4-5 hours a night on average but then again, I have never slept much. I feel energised every day though and not too many aches due to the gradual increase in the workout. No illness apart from flu picked up on a recent long haul flight, and a minor hamstring tighness for a week or so which I think was not related to the gym work.
So as the man above says, take it easy for a while, feel your way in and gradually build up. If you have 8 weeks, you still have lots of time to make a difference without hurting yourself.
I'm tempted to almost do day about as in Weights + Cardio one day, then just cardio the next, then Weights + Cardio. I never feel sore after Cardio but do after weights so giving my body a chance to recover on each "off" day may well work.
thehawk said:
Alternatively just find a woman that loves suckling on those titties of yours.
Ha, there not majorly huge, just the rest of me seems almost to be the right shape (give or take) and It puts me off wearing tight tshirts. Have been sticking to a pretty healthy diet tho and no beer during the week. Almost tempted to do a weekly photo type thing but I'd figure the piss taking would require more in counseling...hollydog said:
If you have the real gynaecomastia training will not reduce the size. Mainly it will emphasize it due the the pec muscle pushing the breast tissue out more. Surgery is the only option.
If the tissue is hard behind the nipple its gynaecomastia.
If its softer than its more lightly to be excess fat store.
Yet again if this bothers you an if it is fat lipo is good for a target area. if training doesn't sort it.
It's pretty soft to be fair.If the tissue is hard behind the nipple its gynaecomastia.
If its softer than its more lightly to be excess fat store.
Yet again if this bothers you an if it is fat lipo is good for a target area. if training doesn't sort it.
Theres a tiny hard bit but I'm assuming thats normal!
Liquid Tuna said:
I thought I had gyno for a while as even when my bodyfat was lowish, I still had a sort of pointy bit at the end of my chest lol. It was only when my bodyfat came right the way down after a good 6 months of keto and hard training that they went and I realised to my relief it had just been bodyfat. The thing with moobs is that I think, like other stubborn bodyfat deposits, the longer you've had them the harder they are to shift. I'd been overweight since school and always had them, and they were pretty much the last place the fat went from. Shame you can't spot reduce it (other than surgery lol).
This is reassuring to know. I'd wouldn't say I was "fat" as such. As in, I don't have a huge gut.Gassing Station | Health Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff