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GloverMart said:
Not going to get into a long drawn out discussion on this. If you genuinely feel aggreived how the two threads have been / are being moderated, then report the thread and another mod will look at it. Truth is, these two threads cause mods more trouble than all the other football threads put together, why should we put up with it? We are volunteers FFS... it's now midnight and I'm typing out an essay having to explain myself to a stranger on the internet why he can't post on a bloody thread!! 
Thing is, the Rangers thread suffered from some awful religious-type abuse on there, a lot of what you didn't see because it was deleted soon after it was posted. People have been banned from it but within a few days, the ones that were left were bickering again and point scoring against each other and it just wasn't working. Hence after several warnings, the thread was closed.
Technodup - have no intention of using "my wee banhammer" on you at present although I could be persuaded if needed. And yes, the thread did catch fire because of what you said happened at the game but why come on here and stir it up? You can't do that and then blame me for shutting the Rangers thread.... your sole aim was to wind the Celtic fans up on their own thread.
BigSimonY - again, why would I ban you for querying how the thread is modded? I just got tired of every morning, waking up and finding Celtic fans reporting Rangers fans and Rangers fans reporting Celtic fans. It's utterly pathetic... even in the bad old days of the Liverpool thread, the complaints weren't as prolific as a normal day on these two threads.
Maybe the Rangers thread will open again one day but it won't be soon. Just move on, aren't there any other Rangers and Celtic forums where they don't care about you abusing one another?
Your efforts are appreciated. It would appear some people are deliberately trying to get this thread closed.Thing is, the Rangers thread suffered from some awful religious-type abuse on there, a lot of what you didn't see because it was deleted soon after it was posted. People have been banned from it but within a few days, the ones that were left were bickering again and point scoring against each other and it just wasn't working. Hence after several warnings, the thread was closed.
Technodup - have no intention of using "my wee banhammer" on you at present although I could be persuaded if needed. And yes, the thread did catch fire because of what you said happened at the game but why come on here and stir it up? You can't do that and then blame me for shutting the Rangers thread.... your sole aim was to wind the Celtic fans up on their own thread.
BigSimonY - again, why would I ban you for querying how the thread is modded? I just got tired of every morning, waking up and finding Celtic fans reporting Rangers fans and Rangers fans reporting Celtic fans. It's utterly pathetic... even in the bad old days of the Liverpool thread, the complaints weren't as prolific as a normal day on these two threads.
Maybe the Rangers thread will open again one day but it won't be soon. Just move on, aren't there any other Rangers and Celtic forums where they don't care about you abusing one another?
GG89 said:
His inconsistency is astonishing though.
That's not the kind of person who should be moderating a football forum.
As well you know it was a comment like that that got the Rangers thread closed. That's not the kind of person who should be moderating a football forum.
A fairly obvious attempt at trying to get the same result here.
Pretty poor show GG
Terzo123 said:
GG89 said:
His inconsistency is astonishing though.
That's not the kind of person who should be moderating a football forum.
As well you know it was a comment like that that got the Rangers thread closed. That's not the kind of person who should be moderating a football forum.
A fairly obvious attempt at trying to get the same result here.
Pretty poor show GG
Terzo123 said:
GG89 said:
His inconsistency is astonishing though.
That's not the kind of person who should be moderating a football forum.
As well you know it was a comment like that that got the Rangers thread closed. That's not the kind of person who should be moderating a football forum.
A fairly obvious attempt at trying to get the same result here.
Pretty poor show GG
How is that a poor show? and if a comment like that is reason enough for him to close the Rangers thread then it just reinforces my opinion that he shouldn't be a moderator.
GG89 said:
Amazing 
Don't recall much of that from yourself in the Rangers thread when there was numerous ceptic fans in there spouting s
t about Rangers.
Moderating at its best, eh?
There's the issue AGAIN. Out of curiosity, in all of the other discussions, have you seen anyone using derogatory terms and insults when speaking about Rangers? Unless I've missed a lot of posts, it's always the other way around. Don't recall much of that from yourself in the Rangers thread when there was numerous ceptic fans in there spouting st about Rangers. Moderating at its best, eh?
I seen what zetec got banned for on Monday night. I also seen why previous people were banned from the Rangers thread. All overstepped the mark massively and would have been banned from ANY forum. In fact most would have been banned and the threads locked a long time ago.
Zetec was the guy that was warned for reporting every single post in the Rangers thread, even good posts that he didn't like. He spent months telling everyone else they shouldn't be in a thread if they don't support Rangers. It's hugely ironic he kicked off like a child and then decend into religious hatred and abused GloverMart.
I bet the only people that see issue with the moderating is the Rangers fans. Any impartial person would be embarrassed to read this drivel again.
It's like 5 year old's pinning continously on at their mum "but why, but why" whilst crying their eyes out.
The fact the moderator even has to justify himself say it all to me. I actually thought some people were just playing dumb.
Sorry, but I saw some posts from Celtic fans on the Rangers thread before they were deleted and, as said, on any other forum they would have been worthy of a ban. The only issue I have is that the Celtic fans have been portrayed as whiter than white through all this pathetic nonsense, when it is clear that both sides are equally culpable.
Not to mention the only reason I got dragged into this argument at the beginning was because of the booing during a silence, which someone tried to deflect by people saying Rangers over compensate by actually remembering the fallen. That should sicken any British person.
Not to mention the only reason I got dragged into this argument at the beginning was because of the booing during a silence, which someone tried to deflect by people saying Rangers over compensate by actually remembering the fallen. That should sicken any British person.
There's the issue? Because I typed Ceptic? Give yourself a break ffs!
There was definitely derogatory comments made about Rangers fans in the rangers forum.
The issue is a moderators total lack of consistency when it comes to rangers and celtic fans on this forum, one group having their thread closed and being threatened with bans if they don't toe the line whilst the other can have their thread here and as soon as rangers fans come in to this one with questions about their fans behaviour he starts threatening bans again and telling the poster to leave the thread.
There was definitely derogatory comments made about Rangers fans in the rangers forum.
The issue is a moderators total lack of consistency when it comes to rangers and celtic fans on this forum, one group having their thread closed and being threatened with bans if they don't toe the line whilst the other can have their thread here and as soon as rangers fans come in to this one with questions about their fans behaviour he starts threatening bans again and telling the poster to leave the thread.
BrabusMog said:
Sorry, but I saw some posts from Celtic fans on the Rangers thread before they were deleted and, as said, on any other forum they would have been worthy of a ban. The only issue I have is that the Celtic fans have been portrayed as whiter than white through all this pathetic nonsense, when it is clear that both sides are equally culpable.
Not to mention the only reason I got dragged into this argument at the beginning was because of the booing during a silence, which someone tried to deflect by people saying Rangers over compensate by actually remembering the fallen. That should sicken any British person.
I must have missed those posts. There isn't that many people who post in these threads, so I can't even work out who would. Not to mention the only reason I got dragged into this argument at the beginning was because of the booing during a silence, which someone tried to deflect by people saying Rangers over compensate by actually remembering the fallen. That should sicken any British person.
I've never once said Celtic fans are whiter than white. I've said the opposite time and time again.
All the tit for tat s
t is all about that. "You lot are all this, you lot are all that blah blah blah". It's childish mud throwing with people too stupid to see that the few don't represent the many.Why would that sicken any British person? You're trying to suggest something that isn't the case. I don't think these over-elaborate events should be part of football. Most normal people, take their time to pay their respects in the traditional and correct manner.
It sickens people who served in the wars how football teams now use the wars to gain attention for themselves.
Edited by Driver101 on Wednesday 11th November 18:02
GG89 said:
There's the issue? Because I typed Ceptic? Give yourself a break ffs!
There was definitely derogatory comments made about Rangers fans in the rangers forum.
The issue is a moderators total lack of consistency when it comes to rangers and celtic fans on this forum, one group having their thread closed and being threatened with bans if they don't toe the line whilst the other can have their thread here and as soon as rangers fans come in to this one with questions about their fans behaviour he starts threatening bans again and telling the poster to leave the thread.
So calling Celtic fans Ceptic is all in the good nature of the thread and keep things on good terms? LOL. I sometimes don't believe what I read. There was definitely derogatory comments made about Rangers fans in the rangers forum.
The issue is a moderators total lack of consistency when it comes to rangers and celtic fans on this forum, one group having their thread closed and being threatened with bans if they don't toe the line whilst the other can have their thread here and as soon as rangers fans come in to this one with questions about their fans behaviour he starts threatening bans again and telling the poster to leave the thread.
The consistency is the guy has been warned time and time again for his conduct. He's now on a different thread with the same conduct.
People were given loads of chances and still couldn't stop it.
Not another single forum would accept this s
t. I take it a number of you guys are all in cahoots with each other of another forum and have now decided to gang up on the moderator?
I'm more amazed by the second that simple things need explained all the time to some people. Clueless, absolutely clueless.
Driver101 said:
BrabusMog said:
Sorry, but I saw some posts from Celtic fans on the Rangers thread before they were deleted and, as said, on any other forum they would have been worthy of a ban. The only issue I have is that the Celtic fans have been portrayed as whiter than white through all this pathetic nonsense, when it is clear that both sides are equally culpable.
Not to mention the only reason I got dragged into this argument at the beginning was because of the booing during a silence, which someone tried to deflect by people saying Rangers over compensate by actually remembering the fallen. That should sicken any British person.
I must have missed those posts. There isn't that many people who post in these threads, so I can't even work out who would. Not to mention the only reason I got dragged into this argument at the beginning was because of the booing during a silence, which someone tried to deflect by people saying Rangers over compensate by actually remembering the fallen. That should sicken any British person.
I've never once said Celtic fans are whiter than white. I've said the opposite time and time again.
All the tit for tat s
t is all about that. "You lot are all this, you lot are all that blah blah blah". It's childish mud throwing with people two stupid to see that the few don't represent the many.Why would that sicken any British person? You're trying to suggest something that isn't the case. I don't think these over-elaborate events should be part of football. Most normal people, take their time to pay their respects in the traditional and correct manner.
It sickens people who served in the wars how football teams now use the wars to gain attention for themselves.
There were Celtic fans jumping all over the Rangers thread. I don't keep a log of names and posts made, so I can't give you any quotes, but it was rife. A few people came on here to say what a disgrace a certain section of your fans were, and we are silenced, again.
As for people being sickened, perhaps that use of language is a tad emotive and it is certainly subjective, but I can unequivocally state that I was sickened by the booing. And angered. I saw a thread posted somewhere else here today that somebody was angered by people continuing to work through the 2 minutes silence as they could hear peoples keyboards tapping away, so I'd say there are plenty of British people that were sickened by a few of your fans who used the silence to boo and sully what should have been a moment of deep reflection.
I have no interest in getting this thread, or any other, closed.
BrabusMog said:
I agree that the tit for tat stuff is cringe, but sometimes you have to say something...
There were Celtic fans jumping all over the Rangers thread. I don't keep a log of names and posts made, so I can't give you any quotes, but it was rife. A few people came on here to say what a disgrace a certain section of your fans were, and we are silenced, again.
As for people being sickened, perhaps that use of language is a tad emotive and it is certainly subjective, but I can unequivocally state that I was sickened by the booing. And angered. I saw a thread posted somewhere else here today that somebody was angered by people continuing to work through the 2 minutes silence as they could hear peoples keyboards tapping away, so I'd say there are plenty of British people that were sickened by a few of your fans who used the silence to boo and sully what should have been a moment of deep reflection.
I have no interest in getting this thread, or any other, closed.
I posted a lot in the Rangers thread, never once did I insult Rangers or use any language to offend. I made sure I didn't as I know how it will offend. There were Celtic fans jumping all over the Rangers thread. I don't keep a log of names and posts made, so I can't give you any quotes, but it was rife. A few people came on here to say what a disgrace a certain section of your fans were, and we are silenced, again.
As for people being sickened, perhaps that use of language is a tad emotive and it is certainly subjective, but I can unequivocally state that I was sickened by the booing. And angered. I saw a thread posted somewhere else here today that somebody was angered by people continuing to work through the 2 minutes silence as they could hear peoples keyboards tapping away, so I'd say there are plenty of British people that were sickened by a few of your fans who used the silence to boo and sully what should have been a moment of deep reflection.
I have no interest in getting this thread, or any other, closed.
There's no such thing as banter in the thread and anything that was supposed to be innocent banter is never going to be taken that way.
This thread was started on here today.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Notice the lack of interest? Strangely people in this thread, who were upset at people not showing respect, were active on the forum at 11.00 and didn't even respond to something that means so much to them.
Like I said earlier, I've no idea why so many people have to make an issue of remembrance day when football is involved, then in real life most people don't even honour a 2 minute silence at the correct time.
Watching all the TV events on Sunday and on the news tonight, the vast majority of people that attend these events as it is so important to them, are all elderly. It's not the people who at rent football in their droves, or the people who are offended on the Internet.
I bet a tiny, tiny fraction of people who make such an issue over events at football games done anything today or Sunday. It is faux anger for many.
Football should be football and not getting embroiled in events that shouldn't involve them. This is a really modern things and didn't happen a few years ago.
I'll post this again from an English perspective so it ain't a Celtic v Rangers thing.
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/foot...
Son why does the argument have to be played over football, when the vast majority of people in the real world don't show respect either?
Edited by Driver101 on Wednesday 11th November 18:45
Driver101 said:
I posted a lot in the Rangers thread, never once did I insult Rangers or use any language to offend. I made sure I didn't as I know how it will offend.
There's no such thing as banter in the thread and anything that was supposed to be innocent banter is never going to be taken that way.
This thread was started on here today.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Notice the lack of interest? Strangely people in this thread, who were upset at people not showing respect, were active on the forum at 11.00 and didn't even respond to something that means so much to them.
Like I said earlier, I've no idea why so many people have to make an issue of remembrance day when football is involved, then in real life most people don't even honour a 2 minute silence at the correct time.
Watching all the TV events on Sunday and on the news tonight, the vast majority of people that attend these events as it is so important to them, are all elderly.
I bet a tiny, tiny fraction of people who make such an issue over events at football games done anything today or Sunday. It is faux anger for many.
Football should be football and not getting embroiled in events that shouldn't involve them. This is a really modern things and didn't happen a few years ago.
I'll post this again from an English perspective so it ain't a Celtic v Rangers thing.
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/foot...
Son why does the argument have to be played over football, when the vast majority of people in the real world don't show respect either?
I didn't see that thread at 11am, or 12pm as it was here, as I was remembering our fallen heroes in silence. And then back to work, so it passed me by.There's no such thing as banter in the thread and anything that was supposed to be innocent banter is never going to be taken that way.
This thread was started on here today.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Notice the lack of interest? Strangely people in this thread, who were upset at people not showing respect, were active on the forum at 11.00 and didn't even respond to something that means so much to them.
Like I said earlier, I've no idea why so many people have to make an issue of remembrance day when football is involved, then in real life most people don't even honour a 2 minute silence at the correct time.
Watching all the TV events on Sunday and on the news tonight, the vast majority of people that attend these events as it is so important to them, are all elderly.
I bet a tiny, tiny fraction of people who make such an issue over events at football games done anything today or Sunday. It is faux anger for many.
Football should be football and not getting embroiled in events that shouldn't involve them. This is a really modern things and didn't happen a few years ago.
I'll post this again from an English perspective so it ain't a Celtic v Rangers thing.
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/foot...
Son why does the argument have to be played over football, when the vast majority of people in the real world don't show respect either?
As for the Chronicle article. Right at the top, as stated, an OPINION piece. The opinion of a journalist who has had a 15 year (guess) career and works for the North East (?) Chronicle. My opinion is that if there didn't used to be silences held at football then I am glad it does happen now. These heroes should be remembered for their sacrifices, and if the most popular sport in the country can promote that fact, it should. I really do find it unsavory that anyone could suggest it's a bad thing that we remember the war dead as much as possible at this time of year. Anyone can have an opinion...
Now we are getting off track and back into why these threads cause such contention, but I don't apologise for this post, it's how I feel.
BrabusMog said:
I didn't see that thread at 11am, or 12pm as it was here, as I was remembering our fallen heroes in silence. And then back to work, so it passed me by.
As for the Chronicle article. Right at the top, as stated, an OPINION piece. The opinion of a journalist who has had a 15 year (guess) career and works for the North East (?) Chronicle. My opinion is that if there didn't used to be silences held at football then I am glad it does happen now. These heroes should be remembered for their sacrifices, and if the most popular sport in the country can promote that fact, it should. I really do find it unsavory that anyone could suggest it's a bad thing that we remember the war dead as much as possible at this time of year. Anyone can have an opinion...
Now we are getting off track and back into why these threads cause such contention, but I don't apologise for this post, it's how I feel.
Looking across various forums I'm on today, the amount of posts about today and Sunday adds up to less than the amount in this thread. As for the Chronicle article. Right at the top, as stated, an OPINION piece. The opinion of a journalist who has had a 15 year (guess) career and works for the North East (?) Chronicle. My opinion is that if there didn't used to be silences held at football then I am glad it does happen now. These heroes should be remembered for their sacrifices, and if the most popular sport in the country can promote that fact, it should. I really do find it unsavory that anyone could suggest it's a bad thing that we remember the war dead as much as possible at this time of year. Anyone can have an opinion...
Now we are getting off track and back into why these threads cause such contention, but I don't apologise for this post, it's how I feel.
If the events mean so much to people, why did more people find the Celtic thread to be negative, rather than constructively start a thread or join in to one that existed? I find that odd.
The interest in the day from people around about my age is next to zero. I've seen one person under 40 wearing a poppy.
I've seen a lot of threads crop up on forums I'm on, I'm sure here too, and the general opinions about the police and armed forces is exceptionally low. People don't appear to hold much respect for them.
I noticed hundreds of thousands of football fans making a big deal over the day at the football, but watching the events on TV, Sunday and today, all those people are nowhere to be seen. Most of the events in Scotland were sparsely attended and the majority elderly people. It most certainly isn't your average football goers.
It was the journalist's opinion, one that a lot of people agree with. Not sure how long he's been a jounalist, but he was drawing on his 35 years of attending football.
Just a few years ago in Scotland, no, and I mean no, teams wore poppies. Nobody slagged each other off for not doing so, it was the norm. Now in the last few years celebrations and events have got out of hand. It has absolutely nothing to do with remembrance day. Teams actually use it as an advertisement to attract paying customers. Is profiteering out of such an event in good taste? I think not.
Now the day is used for bragging rights in tit for tat arguments. One side raises their game, the other wants to respond. Look at us, but look at what they done.
A tiny minority ruined the silence and they've become the most important thing this week.
It's a football argument, and a distasteful one at that. People using an important day for cheap shots at each other.
People are fully entitled to show their respect to heroes. Like I say though, I believe it's fake for the majority of football fans.
I know people who have served for their country and HATE the fact their day is now associated with football. They want their day to be their day.
Rather than carry this discussion on here, you could start a thread about it to get more open opinions. I think you'll find that although a lot of people acknowledge the day, it's not that important to the majority of younger people.
BrabusMog said:
These heroes should be remembered for their sacrifices, and if the most popular sport in the country can promote that fact, it should. I really do find it unsavory that anyone could suggest it's a bad thing that we remember the war dead as much as possible at this time of year.
x100Football is often criticised for being too commercial and for glorifying players who happen to be quite good at booting a ball around.
What better vehicle could there be to introduce a different outlook, one more of reflection, appreciation and respect for those who made real sacrifices, especially to the younger generation? Football touches people like no other sport, it should be used to do good things. Rangers and Rangers fans groups have raised huge amounts for veterans at Erskine and elsewhere, so to suggest this is all about Rangers or some notion about oneupmanship is utter b
ks. I know Celtic do similar but probably not for the same causes.http://rangers.co.uk/news/tag/erskine/
http://rsea.org.uk/ Rangers fans raising money for veterans all year round.
I also didn't see the 11am thread by virtue of not being glued to PH 24 hours a day. As it happens I was in the doctors, waiting very patiently and very silently.=
Driver101 said:
I've seen a lot of threads crop up on forums I'm on, I'm sure here too, and the general opinions about the police and armed forces is exceptionally low. People don't appear to hold much respect for them.
And? If the Twittersphere reflected the country we'd have Owen Jones as PM. It's a lot easier to spout pish about 'da feds' or soldiers from the comfort of your PC.
Let's hope they're never in need of the police or army to help them. Because they'd be changing their tune pretty sharpish if they did. Two faced gobs
tes.As a group they're easy to bash, just like politicians, bankers, footballers et al. But when the chips are down and their pals have bolted faceless forum w
kers would be 999ing it like anyone else.Driver101 said:
Looking across various forums I'm on today, the amount of posts about today and Sunday adds up to less than the amount in this thread.
If the events mean so much to people, why did more people find the Celtic thread to be negative, rather than constructively start a thread or join in to one that existed? I find that odd.
The interest in the day from people around about my age is next to zero. I've seen one person under 40 wearing a poppy.
I've seen a lot of threads crop up on forums I'm on, I'm sure here too, and the general opinions about the police and armed forces is exceptionally low. People don't appear to hold much respect for them.
I noticed hundreds of thousands of football fans making a big deal over the day at the football, but watching the events on TV, Sunday and today, all those people are nowhere to be seen. Most of the events in Scotland were sparsely attended and the majority elderly people. It most certainly isn't your average football goers.
It was the journalist's opinion, one that a lot of people agree with. Not sure how long he's been a jounalist, but he was drawing on his 35 years of attending football.
Just a few years ago in Scotland, no, and I mean no, teams wore poppies. Nobody slagged each other off for not doing so, it was the norm. Now in the last few years celebrations and events have got out of hand. It has absolutely nothing to do with remembrance day. Teams actually use it as an advertisement to attract paying customers. Is profiteering out of such an event in good taste? I think not.
Now the day is used for bragging rights in tit for tat arguments. One side raises their game, the other wants to respond. Look at us, but look at what they done.
A tiny minority ruined the silence and they've become the most important thing this week.
It's a football argument, and a distasteful one at that. People using an important day for cheap shots at each other.
People are fully entitled to show their respect to heroes. Like I say though, I believe it's fake for the majority of football fans.
I know people who have served for their country and HATE the fact their day is now associated with football. They want their day to be their day.
Rather than carry this discussion on here, you could start a thread about it to get more open opinions. I think you'll find that although a lot of people acknowledge the day, it's not that important to the majority of younger people.
I'm not going through your post point by point, but do you realise how many times you contradict yourself?! The reason that hundreds of thousands of people "made a deal" about it over the weekend is because that's when they were in a public place and they observed the silence. Just like I'm sure they did at work as well, except there desks aren't televised like the terraces are.If the events mean so much to people, why did more people find the Celtic thread to be negative, rather than constructively start a thread or join in to one that existed? I find that odd.
The interest in the day from people around about my age is next to zero. I've seen one person under 40 wearing a poppy.
I've seen a lot of threads crop up on forums I'm on, I'm sure here too, and the general opinions about the police and armed forces is exceptionally low. People don't appear to hold much respect for them.
I noticed hundreds of thousands of football fans making a big deal over the day at the football, but watching the events on TV, Sunday and today, all those people are nowhere to be seen. Most of the events in Scotland were sparsely attended and the majority elderly people. It most certainly isn't your average football goers.
It was the journalist's opinion, one that a lot of people agree with. Not sure how long he's been a jounalist, but he was drawing on his 35 years of attending football.
Just a few years ago in Scotland, no, and I mean no, teams wore poppies. Nobody slagged each other off for not doing so, it was the norm. Now in the last few years celebrations and events have got out of hand. It has absolutely nothing to do with remembrance day. Teams actually use it as an advertisement to attract paying customers. Is profiteering out of such an event in good taste? I think not.
Now the day is used for bragging rights in tit for tat arguments. One side raises their game, the other wants to respond. Look at us, but look at what they done.
A tiny minority ruined the silence and they've become the most important thing this week.
It's a football argument, and a distasteful one at that. People using an important day for cheap shots at each other.
People are fully entitled to show their respect to heroes. Like I say though, I believe it's fake for the majority of football fans.
I know people who have served for their country and HATE the fact their day is now associated with football. They want their day to be their day.
Rather than carry this discussion on here, you could start a thread about it to get more open opinions. I think you'll find that although a lot of people acknowledge the day, it's not that important to the majority of younger people.
I don't need to start another thread to get more open opinions, the only people I heard booing the silence were Celtic supporters. This seems the perfect place to discuss it.
I'm 30 years old, so I think I fall into the category of "younger people", and the majority of my friends also think the booing was disgusting.
BrabusMog said:
I'm not going through your post point by point, but do you realise how many times you contradict yourself?! The reason that hundreds of thousands of people "made a deal" about it over the weekend is because that's when they were in a public place and they observed the silence. Just like I'm sure they did at work as well, except there desks aren't televised like the terraces are.
I don't need to start another thread to get more open opinions, the only people I heard booing the silence were Celtic supporters. This seems the perfect place to discuss it.
I'm 30 years old, so I think I fall into the category of "younger people", and the majority of my friends also think the booing was disgusting.
Where did I contradict myself?I don't need to start another thread to get more open opinions, the only people I heard booing the silence were Celtic supporters. This seems the perfect place to discuss it.
I'm 30 years old, so I think I fall into the category of "younger people", and the majority of my friends also think the booing was disgusting.
technodup said:
100
Football is often criticised for being too commercial and for glorifying players who happen to be quite good at booting a ball around.
What better vehicle could there be to introduce a different outlook, one more of reflection, appreciation and respect for those who made real sacrifices, especially to the younger generation? Football touches people like no other sport, it should be used to do good things. Rangers and Rangers fans groups have raised huge amounts for veterans at Erskine and elsewhere, so to suggest this is all about Rangers or some notion about oneupmanship is utter bks. I know Celtic do similar but probably not for the same causes.
http://rangers.co.uk/news/tag/erskine/
http://rsea.org.uk/ Rangers fans raising money for veterans all year round.
I also didn't see the 11am thread by virtue of not being glued to PH 24 hours a day. As it happens I was in the doctors, waiting very patiently and very silently.=
Looking at your profile, you made a decent length post shortly after 11am. Football is often criticised for being too commercial and for glorifying players who happen to be quite good at booting a ball around.
What better vehicle could there be to introduce a different outlook, one more of reflection, appreciation and respect for those who made real sacrifices, especially to the younger generation? Football touches people like no other sport, it should be used to do good things. Rangers and Rangers fans groups have raised huge amounts for veterans at Erskine and elsewhere, so to suggest this is all about Rangers or some notion about oneupmanship is utter b
ks. I know Celtic do similar but probably not for the same causes.http://rangers.co.uk/news/tag/erskine/
http://rsea.org.uk/ Rangers fans raising money for veterans all year round.
I also didn't see the 11am thread by virtue of not being glued to PH 24 hours a day. As it happens I was in the doctors, waiting very patiently and very silently.=
I'm hardly on here, but I noticed it without even making an effort to look for something I knew would be on here somewhere. It was top of the page for the dozen of or so quick posts it got.
Why would they need to go to football games to be introduced to anything to do with the remembrance day? Surely they've been to school? What are they going to learn at a football game?
It is oneupmanship as far as I'm concerned for many. Remembrance day is an old event, but only a new event at football grounds. It has introduced arguments that didn't exist before.
Football maybe touches some people, but the behavior of many also offends lots more. Football fans have a worse reputation than any other sport. Celtic and Rangers fans have collectively the worst and are despised by many. Some armed services don't like their day associated with football. Why should football make a big deal about their day when it has nothing to do with them?
If there's any two teams that shouldn't get involved with more politics, religion and hatred, it's elements of those support.
Edited by Driver101 on Wednesday 11th November 21:16
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