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Cara van man said:
Despite what Dick-so-Dull says, this (and many of the other faults) cannot be laid at the managers door, but fall squarely at the feet of the players.
To claim this was Keanes fault due to 'tactics' is misguided, petty and wrong.
they're not deliberately throwing games are they?To claim this was Keanes fault due to 'tactics' is misguided, petty and wrong.
Cara van man said:
True.
I still want Curbishley there.
Can you afford him?I still want Curbishley there.
Rich your shady owner may be, but he didn't get rich by being a mug. How long before he pulls the plug?
Ipswich are in a bigger financial hole than you realise by the sounds of it. Relegation would mean almost certain administration - again. This time you won't get away scott-free either...major points deductions would follow.
Disco_Dale said:
Cara van man said:
True.
I still want Curbishley there.
Can you afford him?I still want Curbishley there.
Rich your shady owner may be, but he didn't get rich by being a mug. How long before he pulls the plug?
Ipswich are in a bigger financial hole than you realise by the sounds of it. Relegation would mean almost certain administration - again. This time you won't get away scott-free either...major points deductions would follow.
The question really is how long Evans can sustain this or indeed is willing to, I’d guess his whole business plan was built on moving up the league or indeed leagues, increasing revenues from both gate receipts and related incomes with a view to sustaining team in the Premiership. Unfortunately for many clubs the recent influx of colossal foreign capital means that just simply isn’t ever going to happen, you don’t need multi millionaires you need Billionaires, sick isn’t it?
In summary, I’d imagine Evans will go with it for the time being, maybe somebody else will want to but it all off him anyway but there will come a time when its unsustainable but irrespective of all Keane’s good work that time isn’t yet I suspect.
OTBC
PS Even if Ipswich do get relegated I can honestly say I’m enjoying football in the third tier, new grounds, standing, cheap tickets and dare I say it bloody good football courtesy of the Lambo revolution.
Vario-Rob said:
Disco_Dale said:
Cara van man said:
True.
I still want Curbishley there.
Can you afford him?I still want Curbishley there.
Rich your shady owner may be, but he didn't get rich by being a mug. How long before he pulls the plug?
Ipswich are in a bigger financial hole than you realise by the sounds of it. Relegation would mean almost certain administration - again. This time you won't get away scott-free either...major points deductions would follow.
The question really is how long Evans can sustain this or indeed is willing to, I’d guess his whole business plan was built on moving up the league or indeed leagues, increasing revenues from both gate receipts and related incomes with a view to sustaining team in the Premiership. Unfortunately for many clubs the recent influx of colossal foreign capital means that just simply isn’t ever going to happen, you don’t need multi millionaires you need Billionaires, sick isn’t it?
In summary, I’d imagine Evans will go with it for the time being, maybe somebody else will want to but it all off him anyway but there will come a time when its unsustainable but irrespective of all Keane’s good work that time isn’t yet I suspect.
OTBC
PS Even if Ipswich do get relegated I can honestly say I’m enjoying football in the third tier, new grounds, standing, cheap tickets and dare I say it bloody good football courtesy of the Lambo revolution.
Vario-Rob said:
PS Even if Ipswich do get relegated I can honestly say I’m enjoying football in the third tier, new grounds, standing, cheap tickets and dare I say it bloody good football courtesy of the Lambo revolution.
Fair point.Pains me to say it, but it could turn out to be a blessing in disguise.
At last we've stopped pretending to be a Premiership club in waiting with associated costs and cut our cloth accordingly.
Could such a "new broom" mentality have happened without relegation? Well it would have been a lot more difficult. If nothing else, relegation means most of the higher earning players jump ship wheras if we'd stayed up they'd have been quite happy to sit there picking their noses on 10 grand a week.
The two clubs are more alike than either set of fans would like to admit. Both have been spending beyond their means for years in a vein attempt to get back to the promised land, when we should have been looking at the likes of Hull or Stoke for inspiration rather than Birmingham or Sunderland.
Disco_Dale said:
The two clubs are more alike than either set of fans would like to admit. Both have been spending beyond their means for years in a vein attempt to get back to the promised land, when we should have been looking at the likes of Hull or Stoke for inspiration rather than Birmingham or Sunderland.
Exactly. f
k, did I just agree with the Dalelard?Disco_Dale said:
The two clubs are more alike than either set of fans would like to admit. Both have been spending beyond their means for years in a vein attempt to get back to the promised land, when we should have been looking at the likes of Hull or Stoke for inspiration rather than Birmingham or Sunderland.
/I'll biteI think you'll find Sunderland are in a very strong financial situation with excellent backing, stadium, and training facilities. Plus its helps having a superb chairman in Sir Niall Quinn.
However I take your point about sensible spending.
Cara van man said:
fk, did I just agree with the Dalelard?
I knew you loved me really... k, did I just agree with the Dalelard?
MonkeyBusiness said:
I think you'll find Sunderland are in a very strong financial situation with excellent backing, stadium, and training facilities. Plus its helps having a superb chairman in Sir Niall Quinn.
Yeah bad example I 'spose.so. Tomorrow is a real 6 pointer for us. Plymouth.
I think this will be the pivotal point of the season, one way or another. If we lose, we are in serious trouble as the points gap will be increasing to worrying proportions. If we win, we could possibly claw our way out of the bottom 3 and kick on from there. We are actually playing well, but luck is not with us and we are failing to take our chances.......the scenarios for the the next few months are;
a) We'll lose, Keano will be sacked, we'll appoint Alan Curbishly and go on to get promoted.
b) We'll win, Keano will stay, things will turn around and we'll go on to get promoted.
I think this will be the pivotal point of the season, one way or another. If we lose, we are in serious trouble as the points gap will be increasing to worrying proportions. If we win, we could possibly claw our way out of the bottom 3 and kick on from there. We are actually playing well, but luck is not with us and we are failing to take our chances.......the scenarios for the the next few months are;
a) We'll lose, Keano will be sacked, we'll appoint Alan Curbishly and go on to get promoted.
b) We'll win, Keano will stay, things will turn around and we'll go on to get promoted.
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