The Official Tottenham Hotspur thread [Vol 14]
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Werner is for some reason Scared of the ball or physical contact, He actually shy'd away when Johnson hit the hard fast cross,
he avoids contact, he needs to MTFU a bit or get off and let Richarlason have a go.
For some unknown reason to me I am now disliking WH more these days than ever before,
I think it is looking at that Moyes and his miserable bloomin face then add another day of p*ssing rain to add to the Joy.
O how we miss Harry this season just imagine how many goals we could have scored
he avoids contact, he needs to MTFU a bit or get off and let Richarlason have a go.
For some unknown reason to me I am now disliking WH more these days than ever before,
I think it is looking at that Moyes and his miserable bloomin face then add another day of p*ssing rain to add to the Joy.
O how we miss Harry this season just imagine how many goals we could have scored
Terry Winks said:
You'd like to think Richie would be gambling more on these crosses than Werner seems to want too. Johnson is having an excellent game again, he's put half a dozen excellent crosses in this evening.
Three, four times Werner just didn't make the run? So many good balls out in but no-one busting a gut to be thereThen at other times we got into great positions and the final ball was awful.
All that walking football and possession just let WH get back into their defensive shape.
Angeball is a myth I'm afraid. We played about 10 games of Angeball at the beginning of the season. Since then we've seen it in very small doses, 10-15 minutes here or there but the rest of the time, the football as been mostly turgid.
I know it's only the first season so I'll cut him some slack but some people talk him up as if he's the second coming of Jesus. He's done OK but nothing spectacular IMO and still has a lot to learn about the PL.
This season is a wash, we need to spend big in the summer, most notably in the forward positions and see what he can do next year.
I know it's only the first season so I'll cut him some slack but some people talk him up as if he's the second coming of Jesus. He's done OK but nothing spectacular IMO and still has a lot to learn about the PL.
This season is a wash, we need to spend big in the summer, most notably in the forward positions and see what he can do next year.
Guvernator said:
Angeball is a myth I'm afraid. We played about 10 games of Angeball at the beginning of the season. Since then we've seen it in very small doses, 10-15 minutes here or there but the rest of the time, the football as been mostly turgid.
I know it's only the first season so I'll cut him some slack but some people talk him up as if he's the second coming of Jesus. He's done OK but nothing spectacular IMO and still has a lot to learn about the PL.
This season is a wash, we need to spend big in the summer, most notably in the forward positions and see what he can do next year.
If he had a proper quality goalscorer in the team, we'd be 10-12 points better off.....like when he took the jobI know it's only the first season so I'll cut him some slack but some people talk him up as if he's the second coming of Jesus. He's done OK but nothing spectacular IMO and still has a lot to learn about the PL.
This season is a wash, we need to spend big in the summer, most notably in the forward positions and see what he can do next year.
I don't think Angeball is a myth as such, how do you play with maximum intensity when teams just sit back? You can't really, and this doesn't happen for any of the other high intensity sides either, the difference for them is that their forward lines are of a higher quality and either create better chances are sniff out goal opportunities. We don't really have that quality of forward player and it's an area that needs addressing in the summer the most.
As for last nights game? I thought for the first 25-30 minutes we were playing with real intensity, we were all over them and winning most of the battles, we just didn't capitalise or really create any clear cut chances in this time, and thats where the better teams do, and there for you don't get what came of the rest of the game last night. Score a couple of goals when you're playing like that and the opposition ether have to come out and play to try and get back into it or they give up. The longer the game went on, the more West Ham retreated and all you are left doing is knocking the ball around in the final 3rd with all 20 players occupying it. And as above we don't have enough forward quality to unpick the low block.
I think our energy levels at certain points of the game too just look a little low now, reminds me of that first season under Poch, its not just a fitness, its a different type of fitness too. I was listening to Sam Warburton the other day on how conditioning of even elite level athletes to play a certain way with intensity can take years to do, I have no doubt the parmesan Pulis had them fit, but a different type of fit, fully reactionary without the ball.
This is also Ange's biggest test, the most competitive league he's ever worked in, probably the toughest, so I dare say there is some figuring out himself that he is doing. He still has my backing though, this is definitely a transition season where we lost our greatest ever player on the eve of the season starting.
As for last nights game? I thought for the first 25-30 minutes we were playing with real intensity, we were all over them and winning most of the battles, we just didn't capitalise or really create any clear cut chances in this time, and thats where the better teams do, and there for you don't get what came of the rest of the game last night. Score a couple of goals when you're playing like that and the opposition ether have to come out and play to try and get back into it or they give up. The longer the game went on, the more West Ham retreated and all you are left doing is knocking the ball around in the final 3rd with all 20 players occupying it. And as above we don't have enough forward quality to unpick the low block.
I think our energy levels at certain points of the game too just look a little low now, reminds me of that first season under Poch, its not just a fitness, its a different type of fitness too. I was listening to Sam Warburton the other day on how conditioning of even elite level athletes to play a certain way with intensity can take years to do, I have no doubt the parmesan Pulis had them fit, but a different type of fit, fully reactionary without the ball.
This is also Ange's biggest test, the most competitive league he's ever worked in, probably the toughest, so I dare say there is some figuring out himself that he is doing. He still has my backing though, this is definitely a transition season where we lost our greatest ever player on the eve of the season starting.
Blib said:
| Wages to Revenue % | |
| Real Madrid | 54 |
| Cieth | 59 |
| PSG | 77 |
| Barca | 81 |
| United | 51 |
| Munich | 56 |
| Scouse | 63 |
| Spurs | 46 |
| Chelski | 79 |
| Arse | 51 |
It's a myth in that we haven't really seen it that much. Angeball is talked up as this high intensity, attacking football. I keep hearing people saying we are playing much better, sorry where? We've seen it in very small doses where admittedly it looks great, however most of the time it's been mostly sideways and backwards, you know the thing we used to complain about all the time. You can't really call it Angeball if we only do it 10% of the time.
Yes I understand it's a transition season and most teams now setup as a low block against us as it's the easiest way to stop it but other top teams have the same issue and manage to work around it, Arsenal tanked the Hammers 6-0.
A lot of it comes down to our forwards, none of them are great at retaining the ball under pressure or any good at hold up play. This is what other teams do, keep the ball in the danger zone and keep plugging away until something breaks. When we encounter a low block, we just sit 30 yards out and pass it sideways endlessly. We could have played for another hour last night and still not scored.
I'm not saying it's horrible, you can tell if\when it works, it could be spectacular, we've just seen so little of it. It obviously needs work and we need better forwards. Just think after all the Angeball hype from the beginning of the season, it's fizzled out into a bit of a damp squib.
Yes I understand it's a transition season and most teams now setup as a low block against us as it's the easiest way to stop it but other top teams have the same issue and manage to work around it, Arsenal tanked the Hammers 6-0.
A lot of it comes down to our forwards, none of them are great at retaining the ball under pressure or any good at hold up play. This is what other teams do, keep the ball in the danger zone and keep plugging away until something breaks. When we encounter a low block, we just sit 30 yards out and pass it sideways endlessly. We could have played for another hour last night and still not scored.
I'm not saying it's horrible, you can tell if\when it works, it could be spectacular, we've just seen so little of it. It obviously needs work and we need better forwards. Just think after all the Angeball hype from the beginning of the season, it's fizzled out into a bit of a damp squib.
TEKNOPUG said:
Blib said:
| Wages to Revenue % | |
| Real Madrid | 54 |
| Cieth | 59 |
| PSG | 77 |
| Barca | 81 |
| United | 51 |
| Munich | 56 |
| Scouse | 63 |
| Spurs | 46 |
| Chelski | 79 |
| Arse | 51 |
Fast Bug said:
Well Leicester have won the PL and the FA Cup, Forest I can't comment too much on and Everton are a basket case.
But is it better to push and be a better club and to achieve more? Or to have a go kart track and tasty sausage rolls?
That's an honest question
We've won the league twice, Leicester have won it once. But is it better to push and be a better club and to achieve more? Or to have a go kart track and tasty sausage rolls?
That's an honest question
We've won the FA Cup 8 times, Leicester have won it once.
We've won the League Cup 4 times, Leicester have won it 3 times.
What do mean by "achieve more" ?
That's an honest question
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