The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4
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Black can man said:
I think every team in the premier league would be stronger with the Premier leagues 2nd top scorer from the previous season.
I really cannot see what's not to like in getting a player like Vardy, or do we all just crave to sign mysterious performers that have names that end in " iho ".
Absolutely spot on.I really cannot see what's not to like in getting a player like Vardy, or do we all just crave to sign mysterious performers that have names that end in " iho ".
The suggestions that he doesn't fit in to our style of play are total b
ks. Leicester play in a certain way on the counter , we tend to dominate possession more but also tend to invite pressure, when the opposition attacks break down I can't think of many better players at that kind of money than Vardy who are going to exploit space and expose the opposition back four. Vardy is a great outlet. The comparisons with Jeffers are equally stupid. Jeffers was a much younger man, had no pace at all and certainly didn't have a premier league winners medal when he signed for Arsenal.
If this deal comes off and we get 3 good seasons out of Vardy scoring 20 goals at time I think we'll look back see him as bargain.
we tend to dominate possession more but also tend to invite pressure, when the opposition attacks break down I can't think of many better players at that kind of money than Vardy who are going to exploit space and expose the opposition back four. Vardy is a great outlet.
you need defenders and centre back for that - not strikers. keeping a player on the pitch solely for one phase of play, is crazy.
you need defenders and centre back for that - not strikers. keeping a player on the pitch solely for one phase of play, is crazy.
vardy isnt the solution at all imho as we play possession football - look at peanuts demise .... more blind faith from wenger in giroud.
we should be in for Ibra will steamroll defenders, get on crosses, bully midfielders, lay off balls, and bring a winning mentality .... he would effectively end girouds career for good at afc and will show precisely what a big guy with quick feet and the right mind can do at mufc.
he will sell 10x more shirts than vardy and probably cost less over the term as a package....
anyway... a pacy 29 year old on top money isn't the solution. i respect vardy but their system is completely different to ours. he wont get 1m of space to exploit at afc and it will just be more passing round the box.
we should be in for Ibra will steamroll defenders, get on crosses, bully midfielders, lay off balls, and bring a winning mentality .... he would effectively end girouds career for good at afc and will show precisely what a big guy with quick feet and the right mind can do at mufc.
he will sell 10x more shirts than vardy and probably cost less over the term as a package....
anyway... a pacy 29 year old on top money isn't the solution. i respect vardy but their system is completely different to ours. he wont get 1m of space to exploit at afc and it will just be more passing round the box.
bobo said:
vardy isnt the solution at all imho as we play possession football - look at peanuts demise .... more blind faith from wenger in giroud.
we should be in for Ibra will steamroll defenders, get on crosses, bully midfielders, lay off balls, and bring a winning mentality .... he would effectively end girouds career for good at afc and will show precisely what a big guy with quick feet and the right mind can do at mufc.
he will sell 10x more shirts than vardy and probably cost less over the term as a package....
anyway... a pacy 29 year old on top money isn't the solution. i respect vardy but their system is completely different to ours. he wont get 1m of space to exploit at afc and it will just be more passing round the box.
I like your thinking,Giroud was supposed to be that man but not enough consistency. Ibro no way he will find it to AFC after totally humiliating us single handed in a Milan shirt - AW would sooner eat his own excreta. Instead we eat his.we should be in for Ibra will steamroll defenders, get on crosses, bully midfielders, lay off balls, and bring a winning mentality .... he would effectively end girouds career for good at afc and will show precisely what a big guy with quick feet and the right mind can do at mufc.
he will sell 10x more shirts than vardy and probably cost less over the term as a package....
anyway... a pacy 29 year old on top money isn't the solution. i respect vardy but their system is completely different to ours. he wont get 1m of space to exploit at afc and it will just be more passing round the box.
Vardy will end up a 70th minute usual (old Walcott) sub. When we're 2 behind already against the minnows (no disrespect). And only as good as the suppliers 1. Ozil (knocked back contract till after euros) 2. if Santi stays fit 3. Wheelchair is a wheelchair
Edited by android on Monday 6th June 21:21
Edited by android on Monday 6th June 21:22
bobo said:
vardy isnt the solution at all imho as we play possession football - look at peanuts demise .... more blind faith from wenger in giroud.
we should be in for Ibra will steamroll defenders, get on crosses, bully midfielders, lay off balls, and bring a winning mentality .... he would effectively end girouds career for good at afc and will show precisely what a big guy with quick feet and the right mind can do at mufc.
he will sell 10x more shirts than vardy and probably cost less over the term as a package....
anyway... a pacy 29 year old on top money isn't the solution. i respect vardy but their system is completely different to ours. he wont get 1m of space to exploit at afc and it will just be more passing round the box.
Got to agree with all of that.we should be in for Ibra will steamroll defenders, get on crosses, bully midfielders, lay off balls, and bring a winning mentality .... he would effectively end girouds career for good at afc and will show precisely what a big guy with quick feet and the right mind can do at mufc.
he will sell 10x more shirts than vardy and probably cost less over the term as a package....
anyway... a pacy 29 year old on top money isn't the solution. i respect vardy but their system is completely different to ours. he wont get 1m of space to exploit at afc and it will just be more passing round the box.
Glassman said:
mylesmcd said:
Remember that French Defender we brought in a few seasons back - it strikes me of that...before he realized we needed a decent CB ( Mert - IIRC)
Squalliaci?
He was gash. As was that Santos fella. Squalliaci?
k me he was ste. mylesmcd said:
Remember that French Defender we brought in a few seasons back - it strikes me of that...before he realized we needed a decent CB ( Mert - IIRC)
Squalliaci?
ah yes another true afc legend..... Squalliaci?
i remember swiss tone aka senderos being made to cry by drogba who was a fine 'big' striker / point man... ibra will do that to whoever partners kos next season (if kos is still at afc that is) and he will tell them they arnt worthy to be on the same pitch as him too as they lie on the floor lol.
anyone thats followed ibra knows just how good he is. the problem for defenders will be they will need 2 big guys just to deal with his physicality even if hes not trying to score - as you know hes a monster. imagine actually having a guy like that at afc so ozil, sanchez and santi can move into the space provided ????
it would be lambs to the bloody slaughter.
My word people spout some guff.
Here is a guide to Pistnheads logic;
Vardy scores 24 goals in season (in Pistonheads world he's a one season wonder. )
Leicester play a a direct style to exploit Vardy's pace. (In Pistonheads word this means he's only capable of playing one way. )
Vardy doesn't have a fancy foreign name and has come through the non-league and is perhaps unfashionable ( In Pistonheads world means he's not worth buying )
Vardy doesn't fit in/isn't good enough for Arsenal ( Although he's achieved a hell of a lot more than most of our squad and statistically one of the best strikers in Europe)
Vardy may prove not to be good enough, he might also prove to be one of the best signings we ever make. He may be more effective with a direct style of play, he may also be just as effective playing elsewhere.
Opinions are great we all have them. Some of us will like Vardy some won't but it feels like opinions have a habit of being expressed as facts.
Personally, think would say Vardy represents no greater a risk than any other potential signing. If he signs for the club he should given our support and every opportunity to succeed. However, I do feel as this saga rumbles on he is less likely to joined and if that's the case we should continue to look elsewhere in the meantime.
Here is a guide to Pistnheads logic;
Vardy scores 24 goals in season (in Pistonheads world he's a one season wonder. )
Leicester play a a direct style to exploit Vardy's pace. (In Pistonheads word this means he's only capable of playing one way. )
Vardy doesn't have a fancy foreign name and has come through the non-league and is perhaps unfashionable ( In Pistonheads world means he's not worth buying )
Vardy doesn't fit in/isn't good enough for Arsenal ( Although he's achieved a hell of a lot more than most of our squad and statistically one of the best strikers in Europe)
Vardy may prove not to be good enough, he might also prove to be one of the best signings we ever make. He may be more effective with a direct style of play, he may also be just as effective playing elsewhere.
Opinions are great we all have them. Some of us will like Vardy some won't but it feels like opinions have a habit of being expressed as facts.
Personally, think would say Vardy represents no greater a risk than any other potential signing. If he signs for the club he should given our support and every opportunity to succeed. However, I do feel as this saga rumbles on he is less likely to joined and if that's the case we should continue to look elsewhere in the meantime.
Glassman said:
Moussa Cissoko come and get me plea
You're welcome to him.One of the most frustrating players we've had at Newcastle. On his day, pretty much unstoppable and can run amok. He's big and fast, can run and shoot, just not on the same day most of the time. I think we had 3 of those days last season where it all came together.
When he's not interested or dreaming of another big move, he disappears.
If you do take him, I hope for the sake of your sanity that the above experience of him was fuelled by his lack of desire to play for Newcastle rather than an indication of his actual level of talent.
Alfahorn said:
My word people spout some guff.
Here is a guide to Pistnheads logic;
Vardy scores 24 goals in season (in Pistonheads world he's a one season wonder. )
Leicester play a a direct style to exploit Vardy's pace. (In Pistonheads word this means he's only capable of playing one way. )
Vardy doesn't have a fancy foreign name and has come through the non-league and is perhaps unfashionable ( In Pistonheads world means he's not worth buying )
Vardy doesn't fit in/isn't good enough for Arsenal ( Although he's achieved a hell of a lot more than most of our squad and statistically one of the best strikers in Europe)
Vardy may prove not to be good enough, he might also prove to be one of the best signings we ever make. He may be more effective with a direct style of play, he may also be just as effective playing elsewhere.
Opinions are great we all have them. Some of us will like Vardy some won't but it feels like opinions have a habit of being expressed as facts.
Personally, think would say Vardy represents no greater a risk than any other potential signing. If he signs for the club he should given our support and every opportunity to succeed. However, I do feel as this saga rumbles on he is less likely to joined and if that's the case we should continue to look elsewhere in the meantime.
vardy is a great player and actually its his 'composure' rather than anything else for me that makes him so efficient.Here is a guide to Pistnheads logic;
Vardy scores 24 goals in season (in Pistonheads world he's a one season wonder. )
Leicester play a a direct style to exploit Vardy's pace. (In Pistonheads word this means he's only capable of playing one way. )
Vardy doesn't have a fancy foreign name and has come through the non-league and is perhaps unfashionable ( In Pistonheads world means he's not worth buying )
Vardy doesn't fit in/isn't good enough for Arsenal ( Although he's achieved a hell of a lot more than most of our squad and statistically one of the best strikers in Europe)
Vardy may prove not to be good enough, he might also prove to be one of the best signings we ever make. He may be more effective with a direct style of play, he may also be just as effective playing elsewhere.
Opinions are great we all have them. Some of us will like Vardy some won't but it feels like opinions have a habit of being expressed as facts.
Personally, think would say Vardy represents no greater a risk than any other potential signing. If he signs for the club he should given our support and every opportunity to succeed. However, I do feel as this saga rumbles on he is less likely to joined and if that's the case we should continue to look elsewhere in the meantime.
but.... how do you exploit his skill set (pace) that allows him to bring that composure to bear if every-man and his dog knows how to handle AW's system and sits back?
walcott was once upon a time (before his confidence was shot to bits) one of the best finishers at the club - similar type. he was never given a real chance to play point in a system that requires a big target man and it never worked and never will. sanchez an absolute WC player the same.
vardy will be out wide and after 6 months will unfortunately become an arshavin. the thing with wenger is he never changes, he doesnt adapt, so just look to his past if you want to see his future.
i would rather we buy a new big thug up top with quick feet if AW persists with the way the team play. i would be in for Edin Džeko like a shot then onto draxler.
i also think gabriel will turn out to have a great season but we need more cover there. monreal isnt the solution hes cover.
theres loads to do frankly!
bobo said:
vardy is a great player and actually its his 'composure' rather than anything else for me that makes him so efficient.
but.... how do you exploit his skill set (pace) that allows him to bring that composure to bear if every-man and his dog knows how to handle AW's system and sits back?
walcott was once upon a time (before his confidence was shot to bits) one of the best finishers at the club - similar type. he was never given a real chance to play point in a system that requires a big target man and it never worked and never will. sanchez an absolute WC player the same.
vardy will be out wide and after 6 months will unfortunately become an arshavin. the thing with wenger is he never changes, he doesnt adapt, so just look to his past if you want to see his future.
^This.but.... how do you exploit his skill set (pace) that allows him to bring that composure to bear if every-man and his dog knows how to handle AW's system and sits back?
walcott was once upon a time (before his confidence was shot to bits) one of the best finishers at the club - similar type. he was never given a real chance to play point in a system that requires a big target man and it never worked and never will. sanchez an absolute WC player the same.
vardy will be out wide and after 6 months will unfortunately become an arshavin. the thing with wenger is he never changes, he doesnt adapt, so just look to his past if you want to see his future.
Arshavin is a good reference, when you compare playing for other teams in his preferred role.
An interesting read from back in 2012... shows how we haven't moved on in 4 years (in fact, it could have been written by Alfahorn)
http://whitehouseaddress.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/my...
But does remember all those "bad" signings Wenger has made through the years
http://whitehouseaddress.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/my...
But does remember all those "bad" signings Wenger has made through the years
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