The Official Glasgow Rangers Thread
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simoid said:
Surely the tax case/SPL tribunal are different questions:
- should Rangers/players have paid tax on EBTs
- did Rangers declare all payments to players to SPL.
No?
Certain elements of the press who have been very vocal over the past few days since the tax case result don't want that question being asked.- should Rangers/players have paid tax on EBTs
- did Rangers declare all payments to players to SPL.
No?
If they are so sure Rangers did nothing wrong, then surly they have nothing to worry about.
ellroy said:
simoid said:
WTF happened with Elgin then?
Something about a safety certificate for a temporary stand?
I think they didn't get it, hence they oversold the tickets for people that would have been seated in it.Something about a safety certificate for a temporary stand?
Schoolboy error that one.
ninja-lewis said:
Rumour in the Highland League is that they originally sold tickets on the basis that it was going to be a Saturday 3pm kick off. Then it got changed to Sunday lunchtime for TV. Elgin thought quite a few who had already bought tickets wouldn't turn up so nobody would notice if they sold extra tickets. Hence the massive fine. (1/3rd of their playing budget - can you imagine The Rangers being fined £2 million in the same circumstances?)
No, we get away with everything 
HMRC intend to appeal and Green releases a statement that clearly brings the game in to disrepute, whilst also stoking up the fans in a manner that they'll subscribe to his share issue happily 
If the fans want to boycott the game, then by all means that is their choice. Bringing the ASSOCIATION of football clubs in to disrepute, by refusing the ticket allocation, provides clear vindication to the fans that what they are doing is right.
And they'll buy the shares.
This man is a dangerous b
d; I really don't like the way he is creating and fostering divisiveness amongst Scottish football fans to further his own ends. He'll ps off one day soon with his dough, and the rest of us will have to deal with the fallout.
CHARLES GREEN, Chief Executive of Rangers, has tonight issued the following statement.
He said: “Rangers Football Club will not be taking its allocation of tickets for the forthcoming Scottish Cup match against Dundee United at Tannadice.
“This is a unanimous decision by the board, senior management and staff at Ibrox. Everyone at this club is dismayed at the actions of certain SPL clubs, which were actively engaged in trying to harm Rangers when we were in a perilous situation and we are acutely aware of their attitude to us.
“Not all clubs who voted against Rangers returning to the SPL fall into that category and indeed we made Motherwell very welcome when we played them at Ibrox in the League Cup competition recently.
“However, feelings remain very raw and it should be no surprise that we as a club feel this way.
"It is unsurprising too that there has been a reaction from our supporters to this particular fixture.
“The last thing we as a club want to do is to compromise security arrangements for any match.
"I therefore appeal to all fans not to travel to this match and to Dundee United not to sell tickets to Rangers supporters.
“Our only regret is that this turn of events will not assist Ally McCoist and the team in what will be a very difficult fixture.
“We should make clear that the Club, the manager and the players all look forward to a situation where Rangers fans attend every match to support the team. The fans are our greatest asset.”
http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headli...-tie-statem...
If the fans want to boycott the game, then by all means that is their choice. Bringing the ASSOCIATION of football clubs in to disrepute, by refusing the ticket allocation, provides clear vindication to the fans that what they are doing is right. And they'll buy the shares.
This man is a dangerous b
d; I really don't like the way he is creating and fostering divisiveness amongst Scottish football fans to further his own ends. He'll ps off one day soon with his dough, and the rest of us will have to deal with the fallout.CHARLES GREEN, Chief Executive of Rangers, has tonight issued the following statement.
He said: “Rangers Football Club will not be taking its allocation of tickets for the forthcoming Scottish Cup match against Dundee United at Tannadice.
“This is a unanimous decision by the board, senior management and staff at Ibrox. Everyone at this club is dismayed at the actions of certain SPL clubs, which were actively engaged in trying to harm Rangers when we were in a perilous situation and we are acutely aware of their attitude to us.
“Not all clubs who voted against Rangers returning to the SPL fall into that category and indeed we made Motherwell very welcome when we played them at Ibrox in the League Cup competition recently.
“However, feelings remain very raw and it should be no surprise that we as a club feel this way.
"It is unsurprising too that there has been a reaction from our supporters to this particular fixture.
“The last thing we as a club want to do is to compromise security arrangements for any match.
"I therefore appeal to all fans not to travel to this match and to Dundee United not to sell tickets to Rangers supporters.
“Our only regret is that this turn of events will not assist Ally McCoist and the team in what will be a very difficult fixture.
“We should make clear that the Club, the manager and the players all look forward to a situation where Rangers fans attend every match to support the team. The fans are our greatest asset.”
http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headli...-tie-statem...
Wombat3 said:
simoid said:
Not really up for all this boycotting malarky.
Seems a bit immature.
Would rather just do the talking on the pitch, as they say.
A case of "Cut your own nose off to spite your face" I think. Seems a bit immature.
Would rather just do the talking on the pitch, as they say.
Idiotic.
I also struggle to see why DUFC are bearing the brunt of this ire? They were one of ten clubs who vetoed their inclusion back in to the SPL; yet the statement portrays the geniality afforded to Motherwell, who also voted against them? Is it really all about DU having the temerity to seek what they were rightfully owed? Or am I missing something here?
Cup games have the gate receipts split minus costs; so by the refusal of tickets they clearly bequeath the gate receipt to DU, which if DU price wisely they'll sell the stadium out. So by teaching them a lesson, DU will make up to 50% more than they bargained for! Oookkaayy then.
Clearly there will be a financial impact on the city of Dundee... in fact no there won't be if they fill the stadium out and spend some pennies in the locale.
So it seems like Dundee United & the city itself won't be affected by any of this nonsense!
These strong arm tactics against clubs/fans, who will clearly stand against these tactics when provoked; it shall rally those fans in such a manner that the Rangers fans dissent against their clubs will spur them on to neutralise any purported financial loss from the boycott. Dangerous game and not healthy for the future of Scottish football that one associated club actively seeks to hinder and damage another associated club.
Edited by stevoknevo on Wednesday 5th December 02:01
Fittster said:
stevoknevo do you have your own team or is your interest in football purely disliking rangers?
I've never hidden the fact I am a Celtic fan, or the fact my Wife worked at Ibrox for a number of years until very recently. My comments come as a fan of Scottish football and the fact that Rangers refusal to accept tickets from a member club is beyond the pale and brings the game in to disrepute. This is also the Rangers thread, for I believe discussion regarding Rangers? Challenge me on the very valid points I make as opposed to whom I support; there are 42 clubs in this country and we have a right to express an opinion when one of them throws a tantrum. Edited by stevoknevo on Wednesday 5th December 02:20
AIUI the ex-DUFC chairman was a knob in the eyes of many Rangers fans.
I don't see how the club is bringing the game into disprepute though: Rangers fans were almost certainly going to boycott the game, so the nice thing for Rangers to do would be to turn down their ticket allocation, so Dundee Utd can sell more to their own fans, no?
Stevo I don't understand your maths. How will Dundee Utd make 50% more money than they bargained for? Are Rangers not going to get 50% of the ticket sales?
I don't see how the club is bringing the game into disprepute though: Rangers fans were almost certainly going to boycott the game, so the nice thing for Rangers to do would be to turn down their ticket allocation, so Dundee Utd can sell more to their own fans, no?
Stevo I don't understand your maths. How will Dundee Utd make 50% more money than they bargained for? Are Rangers not going to get 50% of the ticket sales?
Dundee Utd club statement.
http://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/index.asp?tm=2&...
CLUB STATEMENT
05 December 2012
It is with huge disappointment that we read both the content and tone of the statement from Rangers, stating that they will not be taking any tickets for our Scottish Cup tie in February and urging their supporters not to attend.
However, we do not intend to enter into a war of words with Rangers or to dignify their position by responding in kind.
We have noted their decision not to take any tickets for this cup tie and will now act accordingly in arranging the match. The statement from Rangers makes it clear that their fans should not attend. We have therefore raised a number of related matters with the Scottish FA and will be making no further public statement until their advice has been received.
http://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/index.asp?tm=2&...
CLUB STATEMENT
05 December 2012
It is with huge disappointment that we read both the content and tone of the statement from Rangers, stating that they will not be taking any tickets for our Scottish Cup tie in February and urging their supporters not to attend.
However, we do not intend to enter into a war of words with Rangers or to dignify their position by responding in kind.
We have noted their decision not to take any tickets for this cup tie and will now act accordingly in arranging the match. The statement from Rangers makes it clear that their fans should not attend. We have therefore raised a number of related matters with the Scottish FA and will be making no further public statement until their advice has been received.
It never ceases to amaze me,the amount of interest in Rangers.
Someone told me that one celtic forum has over 350 pages with over 7000 comments.
What would other fans do if they did not have Rangers to talk about.
Dun Utd. were vociferous in condemning Rangers, why should the support now not voice there opinion against them. Everyone was calling for sporting integrity, so now Rangers play the same card.
Rangers were found not guilty. but still they are obsessed.
Looking forward to the game this Sat. will be nice to see all the Ex Rangers players
Someone told me that one celtic forum has over 350 pages with over 7000 comments.
What would other fans do if they did not have Rangers to talk about.
Dun Utd. were vociferous in condemning Rangers, why should the support now not voice there opinion against them. Everyone was calling for sporting integrity, so now Rangers play the same card.
Rangers were found not guilty. but still they are obsessed.
Looking forward to the game this Sat. will be nice to see all the Ex Rangers players
m996tt said:
It never ceases to amaze me,the amount of interest in Rangers.
Someone told me that one celtic forum has over 350 pages with over 7000 comments.
What would other fans do if they did not have Rangers to talk about.
Dun Utd. were vociferous in condemning Rangers, why should the support now not voice there opinion against them. Everyone was calling for sporting integrity, so now Rangers play the same card.
Rangers were found not guilty. but still they are obsessed.
Looking forward to the game this Sat. will be nice to see all the Ex Rangers players
"Innocent" So the £47 million will be payed back to the creditors?Someone told me that one celtic forum has over 350 pages with over 7000 comments.
What would other fans do if they did not have Rangers to talk about.
Dun Utd. were vociferous in condemning Rangers, why should the support now not voice there opinion against them. Everyone was calling for sporting integrity, so now Rangers play the same card.
Rangers were found not guilty. but still they are obsessed.
Looking forward to the game this Sat. will be nice to see all the Ex Rangers players
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