The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4
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telegraph said:
An Arsenal club shop worker has resigned from his role at the club claiming that he does not want to be a burden on Arsenal's spending on transfers.
Following Arsenal's draw with Leicester on Saturday, Wenger said that a reason for not spenind as much as his rivals is because the club need to ensure that the club's 600 staff members are paid first.
In response, this fan, only known as 'Arsenal Employee' has handed in his notice in the hope that the removal of his wage from the wage bill will not further hamper transfer activities.
The latter said:
"My decision for leaving is due to Mr. Arsene Wenger's comments about staff after he recent draw against Leiecester City. To blame having to pay the 600 people working at Arsenal Football Club for not buying a player is a disgrace.
"I earn £7.20ph, and work 37.5 hours a week. I get paid £270 a week. Over 52 weeks that is £14,040 a year. Theo Walcott earns 10x's that a week.
"Hopefully with my wage off the club's wage bill, it will free up the cash for Mr. Wenger to buy more players.
"I no longer wish to be a burden at this club."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/22/arsenal-transfer-news-and-rumours-on-monday---live-updates/#update-20160822-0847Following Arsenal's draw with Leicester on Saturday, Wenger said that a reason for not spenind as much as his rivals is because the club need to ensure that the club's 600 staff members are paid first.
In response, this fan, only known as 'Arsenal Employee' has handed in his notice in the hope that the removal of his wage from the wage bill will not further hamper transfer activities.
The latter said:
"My decision for leaving is due to Mr. Arsene Wenger's comments about staff after he recent draw against Leiecester City. To blame having to pay the 600 people working at Arsenal Football Club for not buying a player is a disgrace.
"I earn £7.20ph, and work 37.5 hours a week. I get paid £270 a week. Over 52 weeks that is £14,040 a year. Theo Walcott earns 10x's that a week.
"Hopefully with my wage off the club's wage bill, it will free up the cash for Mr. Wenger to buy more players.
"I no longer wish to be a burden at this club."
Black can man said:
Arsenal have spent over £300M on players over the last 6 seasons, that's an awful lot for a club that doesn't want to spend.
But since 11/12 Arsenal have received some £160m from player sales haven't they? Which accounts for over half that spend.When over half the amount spent is simply attempting to replace players that have been sold (with money received from those sales), in many cases players that were not really replaceable, some of whom left exactly because of the club's 'lack of investment' in improving the squad, it's quite easy to see where the complaints come from.
If they hadn't sold that £160m worth of players, there is no way on earth they would have spent even close to £300m.
I do also agree though that a fair bit of what has been spent has been spent poorly. Likewise, too many below-par players have been kept around on expensive contracts far longer than they should have been.
The issue is, they have repeatedly sold top class players, and then used that money to buy 2 above average players instead of another top class one, leading to a bloated squad that is still missing the sprinkling of class required in a couple of areas.
Back in Van Persie's final year, the club had an average squad with a world-class forward. Instead of spending the necessary money to bring the squad up to the standard to match the ambition of our forward, they instead sold him and used the money from his sale to improve the standard of the squad. Leaving us with a better overall squad, but one now lacking the world class forward required to challenge in the major competitions. That is the lack of investment the fans are getting annoyed about.
Outright spend figures are meaningless if the club is selling it's best players each year to finance that spend.
All in my opinion of course.
Edited by Squirrelofwoe on Monday 22 August 11:15
Squirrelofwoe said:
Glassman said:
We've gone from Mustafi having his medical on Monday to he now won't be sold for less than the minimum release.
Our deal closing finesse is about as toothless as our finishing up front.
Jonny Evans it is then Our deal closing finesse is about as toothless as our finishing up front.
Glassman said:
Pulis insists he won't sell to a rival club.
To be fair, the idea of Pulis selling a defender full stop seems unlikely, given his apparent desire to line up as many of them as possible in front of a goalkeeper...
It's like an episode of hoarders, where Pulis's living room is stacked full of washed-up, aging center backs.
Glassman said:
Wenger believes the fans are influenced "too much" by the media. Not that we form our own opinions on what we see before us, eh?
Indeed......I think if Wenger bothered to look, he'll likely find it's the other way around, and it's the media that are just picking up on the fans long established grumblings.He really can be a contemptible old git at times.....
Edited by aeropilot on Monday 22 August 12:13
Glassman said:
Squirrelofwoe said:
Glassman said:
We've gone from Mustafi having his medical on Monday to he now won't be sold for less than the minimum release.
Our deal closing finesse is about as toothless as our finishing up front.
Jonny Evans it is then Our deal closing finesse is about as toothless as our finishing up front.
Sorry but that is funny
Alfahorn said:
I wouldn't know
Course you wouldn't which is why you keep avoiding the question....So I'll ask again you site lack of investment yet you have the 4th highest wage bill and the 4th highest net spend so who should you be outspending the financially doped or the biggest club in the country?
ascayman said:
Course you wouldn't which is why you keep avoiding the question....
So I'll ask again you site lack of investment yet you have the 4th highest wage bill and the 4th highest net spend so who should you be outspending the financially doped or the biggest club in the country?
Wasting wages on Walcott who has one good game in every twenty.So I'll ask again you site lack of investment yet you have the 4th highest wage bill and the 4th highest net spend so who should you be outspending the financially doped or the biggest club in the country?
When Ferguson on the odd time he bought an expensive dud he didn't persist with them to try and prove a point he fixed the problem by buying again, Wenger is intent on trying to prove everybody wrong.
Talking about Johnny Evans does anyone remember that bit of astute buying when Silvester turned up at Arsenal?
ascayman said:
Alfahorn said:
I wouldn't know
Course you wouldn't which is why you keep avoiding the question....So I'll ask again you site lack of investment yet you have the 4th highest wage bill and the 4th highest net spend so who should you be outspending the financially doped or the biggest club in the country?
There remains a lack of investment in areas of the team everyone knows is a weakness for Arsenal. You decided that means we've invested in the wrong players, this again is your conclusion not mine.
Glassman said:
Squirrelofwoe said:
Glassman said:
We've gone from Mustafi having his medical on Monday to he now won't be sold for less than the minimum release.
Our deal closing finesse is about as toothless as our finishing up front.
Jonny Evans it is then Our deal closing finesse is about as toothless as our finishing up front.
ascayman said:
Alfahorn said:
I wouldn't know
Course you wouldn't which is why you keep avoiding the question....So I'll ask again you site lack of investment yet you have the 4th highest wage bill and the 4th highest net spend so who should you be outspending the financially doped or the biggest club in the country?
Arsenal FC is one of the wealthiest, financially secure football clubs in the world yet we have a manager and board with absolutely no ambition whatsoever to turn us into a world player.
You think with all that money we couldn't have bought Suarez for 80,90,£100 million? I'm still waiting 9 years on from Henry leaving, never to be replaced...?
Wish Wenger, Kroenke, Gazidis and the board would stop acting like we're hard up, scrimping and bartering transfer fees like the piggy banks empty and stop acting like we're a small club! You want a world class player, you go out there and bloody get him! You buy cheap crap(Sanogo, Santos, Park, Chamakh)you get crap!
The wage structure of the club is also massively flawed and a terrible idea for attracting big names. The trouble now is that it has been too long for indeed Wenger and AFC in regards to winning major titles that it's putting players off coming to play for us. Reminds me of McLaren in F1...
ascayman said:
Raygun said:
Wasting wages on Walcott who has one good game in every twenty.
Oh I agree completely, that's my point its not that investment isn't being made its being made alright just with the wrong peopleDefinition of investment:
To invest is to allocate money (or sometimes another resource, such as time) in the expectation of some benefit in the future.
amgmcqueen said:
Arsenal FC is one of the wealthiest, financially secure football clubs in the world yet we have a manager and board with absolutely no ambition whatsoever to turn us into a world player.
You're really not getting it are you. Why would they i.e. W + board want change ? Mugs turn up year after year and pump money into the sausage machine,we get 4th place and W spouting the same old nonsense. They're laughing at the fans. Tonight's Talksport with Goughie and Durham was funny (I'm over it now) there's still clowns ringing in frustrated saying we're going to win the league (unless they're 'plants') in reaction to Durhams' diatribe. They say the average Gooner has a less than average IQ,I'm inclined to agree these days. Stop turning up for XXX sake,how else will anything change ?!!!To add,the Scouse did it when they wanted Woy out - there's what can be done.
Edited by Barmyfluid on Monday 22 August 21:09
Wenger believes he still has the same je ne sais quoi that turned Henry into the legend he became. He's tried putting every f
ker we've signed on the wing before chucking them upfront.
For about three games, I though he might just have vindicated himself with Gervinho but like his hair, the hope soon receded.
ker we've signed on the wing before chucking them upfront. For about three games, I though he might just have vindicated himself with Gervinho but like his hair, the hope soon receded.
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