The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4
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uk66fastback said:
SilverSpur said:
What a s
t goal to concede at the end there. You can forgive the hand ball shout..... But kozelney is off side ffs. He's in front of chamberlin when he kicks the ball (which would go wide if it weren't for kozelney standing in front of him and it hitting his arm and into the goal.
TERRIBLE decsion not to wipe it out from the officials.
Want to edit this now? The OX never even kicked it!t goal to concede at the end there. You can forgive the hand ball shout..... But kozelney is off side ffs. He's in front of chamberlin when he kicks the ball (which would go wide if it weren't for kozelney standing in front of him and it hitting his arm and into the goal. TERRIBLE decsion not to wipe it out from the officials.
It was handball though ... no idea why the ref didn't give it - unsighted I presume?
Still, keeps it interesting at the top.
We had pretty total control of that game. There was only one side who really looked like they wanted to win it and fortunately we got our rewards in the end.
The performance was a little disjointed in the final third otherwise I was happy with the balance of the team and the effort shown. My man of the match was Mustafi - at last we've got a proper defensive pairing at the back for the first time in years.
The performance was a little disjointed in the final third otherwise I was happy with the balance of the team and the effort shown. My man of the match was Mustafi - at last we've got a proper defensive pairing at the back for the first time in years.
Cupramax said:
handball has to be intentional.
But the directive is not to stick to that. Unless it's a defender saving the ball on the line to stop a goal, no hand ball in the area is ever intentional, but penalties are given often. Defender jumps up to head the ball, loses track of it, and it ends up striking his hand or arm, that's always a pen but never intentional. Ball is hit by attacker and strikes the outstretched arm of defender, another pen where is was unintentional.The directive is to give handball when it's intentional, and where it's unintentional but results in a significant advantage to the player who has handled it, and when it's unintentional but could have been avoided with more effort or better control of hand or arms.
But the ref made an error, so what. It happens. Sometimes you're the pigeon, and sometimes your the statue.
SilverSpur said:
Ive watched it twenty times now. Kozelney does indeed kick it, in my opinion straight up onto Oxs incoming foot which then diverts the ball up onto LKs hand and then into the goal. Still offside still hand ball. So much wrong with this goal no way it should have stood. Which is why the Ox thougt it was his goal and he celebrated taking all the credit.
Still, keeps it interesting at the top.
You may have watched it 20 times but it hasn't improved your understanding of the laws of the game when it comes to handball and indeed offside. Still, keeps it interesting at the top.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Cupramax said:
handball has to be intentional.
But the directive is not to stick to that. Unless it's a defender saving the ball on the line to stop a goal, no hand ball in the area is ever intentional, but penalties are given often. Defender jumps up to head the ball, loses track of it, and it ends up striking his hand or arm, that's always a pen but never intentional. Ball is hit by attacker and strikes the outstretched arm of defender, another pen where is was unintentional.The directive is to give handball when it's intentional, and where it's unintentional but results in a significant advantage to the player who has handled it, and when it's unintentional but could have been avoided with more effort or better control of hand or arms.
But the ref made an error, so what. It happens. Sometimes you're the pigeon, and sometimes your the statue.
Sorry but you don't know what you're talking about.
Alfahorn said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Cupramax said:
handball has to be intentional.
But the directive is not to stick to that. Unless it's a defender saving the ball on the line to stop a goal, no hand ball in the area is ever intentional, but penalties are given often. Defender jumps up to head the ball, loses track of it, and it ends up striking his hand or arm, that's always a pen but never intentional. Ball is hit by attacker and strikes the outstretched arm of defender, another pen where is was unintentional.The directive is to give handball when it's intentional, and where it's unintentional but results in a significant advantage to the player who has handled it, and when it's unintentional but could have been avoided with more effort or better control of hand or arms.
But the ref made an error, so what. It happens. Sometimes you're the pigeon, and sometimes your the statue.
Sorry but you don't know what you're talking about.
Cheib said:
Glassman said:
Almost every shot we managed looked quite a bit off target.
Even Ozil and Sanchez looked like they needed recalibrating today.
Ozil and Iwobi both had shots that wouldn't have hit a goal three times the size. Bad day at the office for a few of them! Even Ozil and Sanchez looked like they needed recalibrating today.
Going to Burnley was always going to be hard going, and it was good to snatch the extra two points from behind their two rows of defence.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
How would you interpret the current Fifa directives on handball?
The following must be considered:the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an infringement
touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard, etc.) is an infringement
hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard, etc.) is an infringement
Read more at http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/law...
RacingPete said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
How would you interpret the current Fifa directives on handball?
The following must be considered:the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an infringement
touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard, etc.) is an infringement
hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard, etc.) is an infringement
Read more at http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/law...
As said, a defender jumping for a header, loses sight of the ball, and it hits him on his arm that's in the air above his head. No way is that intentional, he doesn't want to concede a pen, but it's a pen all day long.
Glassman said:
Cheib said:
Glassman said:
Almost every shot we managed looked quite a bit off target.
Even Ozil and Sanchez looked like they needed recalibrating today.
Ozil and Iwobi both had shots that wouldn't have hit a goal three times the size. Bad day at the office for a few of them! Even Ozil and Sanchez looked like they needed recalibrating today.
Going to Burnley was always going to be hard going, and it was good to snatch the extra two points from behind their two rows of defence.
There's a great video at the top of this bloke's timeline https://twitter.com/TerryAFCx?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw of the job they did on Costa.
Black can man said:
Why not? I don't agree with it, but of the club owners are having it away, why shouldn't the players take a larger slice?Gassing Station | Football | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff