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TerryThomas said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Given the hell you lot have put managers thru in the past, (I seem to recall one of your many failing managers having his wife spat at in the street, not once but several times).
A man has an argument with his wife and you see that as a reflection of how a club treats its manager? 
If you are going to deflect at least try do so in a way that strengthens your argument rather than makes you look pedantic.
Read it again. Newcastle fans were spitting at the manager's wife whilst she was out and about in town!!!!
I didn't know you were a Liverpool fan, apologies and commiserations.
The point is, amongst other fans, no fans have a worse reputation for their treatment of managers they dislike than Newcastle fans. So no Newcastle fan should get upset that I dislike Benetez. I don't wish him any harm, I just hope he fails.
The point is, amongst other fans, no fans have a worse reputation for their treatment of managers they dislike than Newcastle fans. So no Newcastle fan should get upset that I dislike Benetez. I don't wish him any harm, I just hope he fails.
TerryThomas said:
Why do you dislike him so much? Because of the b
hing between him and Mourinho years back?
Not at all. I quite liked that. A manager should be sticking up for his club.hing between him and Mourinho years back?I just think he's very overrated. The stuff he's won has been won with his predecessors teams. When given time he invariably makes things worse. At Liverpool he lived off the 05 CL win for far too long. And at Inter, he took over the CL winners and damn near got them relegated.
At Newcastle he got a 0-0 at home to Villa. Should have been sacked then. Me and my mates could've beaten Villa. Chelsea were rubbish last year and at the nadir of our uselessness, we won 0-4 at Villa Park.
He was pretty terrible at Chelsea. Anyone who thinks our CL victory was lucky ought to look at our Europa win under Benetez, we were dire.
He may (unfortunately) get Newcastle up, mainly because he has better players at his disposal than the rest of the teams. But if he does, he will do nothing in the Prem. In a few years time Geordies will be making his life a living hell and spitting at his wife.
ellroy said:
The Beaver King said:
a bit of racial hatred.
Only a bit? Chelsea have some of the most vile rascist fans in the top flight, if not in the country.An Asian mate of mine follows them and even he despairs of them at times.
(Chelsea fans).
ellroy said:
The Beaver King said:
a bit of racial hatred.
Only a bit? Chelsea have some of the most vile rascist fans in the top flight, if not in the country.An Asian mate of mine follows them and even he despairs of them at times.
To be fair, the club have been battling it for years and it's much better than it used to be. But not going to pretend it's been irradiated.
We're fortunate in so much as the last 2 owners have the support of most of the fans. Not the case at Newcastle, where the fans hate the owner (when things are going badly, then seem to ease off when it picks up, then hate him again when things turn bad).
TwigtheWonderkid said:
We're fortunate in so much as the last 2 owners have the support of most of the fans. Not the case at Newcastle, where the fans hate the owner (when things are going badly, then seem to ease off when it picks up, then hate him again when things turn bad).
It's really easy to say things like that when it isn't your club. You're right, you are bloody lucky to have had two decent owners in recent years. Owners that generally keep out of the day to day running of the club and are happy to pour money into it without a second thought.Try having an owner that insists on pulling money out of the club, prostituting out any part of it that has value (naming rights/dodgy sponsors), s
ts on a club legend, employs puppets to manage the club, tries to run the whole thing like a cornershop and generally seems to find any way possible to ps off the fans.We haven't changed our opinion of Mike Ashley, we're just keeping our mouths shut whilst he seems to be doing the right thing for once in fear of rocking the boat.
Before you start laying into other teams fans due to their apparent 'outrageous' treatment of owners and managers, it might be worth looking at what they've been through of the last 10 years and trying to imagine how you would feel if it was your club....
The Beaver King said:
Before you start laying into other teams fans due to their apparent 'outrageous' treatment of owners and managers, it might be worth looking at what they've been through of the last 10 years and trying to imagine how you would feel if it was your club....
I don't have to imagine! I followed Chelsea thru the 70s, when the chairman was intent on selling the ground to property developers, and thought running the club into the ground would hasten his desired outcome. TwigtheWonderkid said:
Not at all. I quite liked that. A manager should be sticking up for his club.
I just think he's very overrated. The stuff he's won has been won with his predecessors teams. When given time he invariably makes things worse. At Liverpool he lived off the 05 CL win for far too long. And at Inter, he took over the CL winners and damn near got them relegated.
At Newcastle he got a 0-0 at home to Villa. Should have been sacked then. Me and my mates could've beaten Villa. Chelsea were rubbish last year and at the nadir of our uselessness, we won 0-4 at Villa Park.
He was pretty terrible at Chelsea. Anyone who thinks our CL victory was lucky ought to look at our Europa win under Benetez, we were dire.
He may (unfortunately) get Newcastle up, mainly because he has better players at his disposal than the rest of the teams. But if he does, he will do nothing in the Prem. In a few years time Geordies will be making his life a living hell and spitting at his wife.
What a load of bI just think he's very overrated. The stuff he's won has been won with his predecessors teams. When given time he invariably makes things worse. At Liverpool he lived off the 05 CL win for far too long. And at Inter, he took over the CL winners and damn near got them relegated.
At Newcastle he got a 0-0 at home to Villa. Should have been sacked then. Me and my mates could've beaten Villa. Chelsea were rubbish last year and at the nadir of our uselessness, we won 0-4 at Villa Park.
He was pretty terrible at Chelsea. Anyone who thinks our CL victory was lucky ought to look at our Europa win under Benetez, we were dire.
He may (unfortunately) get Newcastle up, mainly because he has better players at his disposal than the rest of the teams. But if he does, he will do nothing in the Prem. In a few years time Geordies will be making his life a living hell and spitting at his wife.
ks Rafa is a good manager and Chelsea fans treated him like absolute s
te when he did a much better job than some of the other managers you had around that time.chrisb92 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Not at all. I quite liked that. A manager should be sticking up for his club.
I just think he's very overrated. The stuff he's won has been won with his predecessors teams. When given time he invariably makes things worse. At Liverpool he lived off the 05 CL win for far too long. And at Inter, he took over the CL winners and damn near got them relegated.
At Newcastle he got a 0-0 at home to Villa. Should have been sacked then. Me and my mates could've beaten Villa. Chelsea were rubbish last year and at the nadir of our uselessness, we won 0-4 at Villa Park.
He was pretty terrible at Chelsea. Anyone who thinks our CL victory was lucky ought to look at our Europa win under Benetez, we were dire.
He may (unfortunately) get Newcastle up, mainly because he has better players at his disposal than the rest of the teams. But if he does, he will do nothing in the Prem. In a few years time Geordies will be making his life a living hell and spitting at his wife.
What a load of bI just think he's very overrated. The stuff he's won has been won with his predecessors teams. When given time he invariably makes things worse. At Liverpool he lived off the 05 CL win for far too long. And at Inter, he took over the CL winners and damn near got them relegated.
At Newcastle he got a 0-0 at home to Villa. Should have been sacked then. Me and my mates could've beaten Villa. Chelsea were rubbish last year and at the nadir of our uselessness, we won 0-4 at Villa Park.
He was pretty terrible at Chelsea. Anyone who thinks our CL victory was lucky ought to look at our Europa win under Benetez, we were dire.
He may (unfortunately) get Newcastle up, mainly because he has better players at his disposal than the rest of the teams. But if he does, he will do nothing in the Prem. In a few years time Geordies will be making his life a living hell and spitting at his wife.
ks Rafa is a good manager and Chelsea fans treated him like absolute s
te when he did a much better job than some of the other managers you had around that time.TwigtheWonderkid said:
The Beaver King said:
Before you start laying into other teams fans due to their apparent 'outrageous' treatment of owners and managers, it might be worth looking at what they've been through of the last 10 years and trying to imagine how you would feel if it was your club....
I don't have to imagine! I followed Chelsea thru the 70s, when the chairman was intent on selling the ground to property developers, and thought running the club into the ground would hasten his desired outcome. TerryThomas said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
The Beaver King said:
Before you start laying into other teams fans due to their apparent 'outrageous' treatment of owners and managers, it might be worth looking at what they've been through of the last 10 years and trying to imagine how you would feel if it was your club....
I don't have to imagine! I followed Chelsea thru the 70s, when the chairman was intent on selling the ground to property developers, and thought running the club into the ground would hasten his desired outcome. Never!
TerryThomas said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
The Beaver King said:
Before you start laying into other teams fans due to their apparent 'outrageous' treatment of owners and managers, it might be worth looking at what they've been through of the last 10 years and trying to imagine how you would feel if it was your club....
I don't have to imagine! I followed Chelsea thru the 70s, when the chairman was intent on selling the ground to property developers, and thought running the club into the ground would hasten his desired outcome. I'm not sure you understand how this football fan stuff works. If Sunderland get relegated this season, I'm sure you'll be full of empathy after going down last season!
Was my post really worthy of a ?
My point was that Chelsea, Liverpool and Newcastle fans all have some insight into being owned by people not fit for purpose. I can sympathise with Newcastle fans exasperation at their current owner. Is that beyond you now you are owned by a billionaire? (The Chelsea owner you described was before my time, I'm afraid).
Let's take solace in that all three clubs now have managers that their fans seem very happy with.
?My point was that Chelsea, Liverpool and Newcastle fans all have some insight into being owned by people not fit for purpose. I can sympathise with Newcastle fans exasperation at their current owner. Is that beyond you now you are owned by a billionaire? (The Chelsea owner you described was before my time, I'm afraid).
Let's take solace in that all three clubs now have managers that their fans seem very happy with.
chrisb92 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Not at all. I quite liked that. A manager should be sticking up for his club.
I just think he's very overrated. The stuff he's won has been won with his predecessors teams. When given time he invariably makes things worse. At Liverpool he lived off the 05 CL win for far too long. And at Inter, he took over the CL winners and damn near got them relegated.
At Newcastle he got a 0-0 at home to Villa. Should have been sacked then. Me and my mates could've beaten Villa. Chelsea were rubbish last year and at the nadir of our uselessness, we won 0-4 at Villa Park.
He was pretty terrible at Chelsea. Anyone who thinks our CL victory was lucky ought to look at our Europa win under Benetez, we were dire.
He may (unfortunately) get Newcastle up, mainly because he has better players at his disposal than the rest of the teams. But if he does, he will do nothing in the Prem. In a few years time Geordies will be making his life a living hell and spitting at his wife.
What a load of bI just think he's very overrated. The stuff he's won has been won with his predecessors teams. When given time he invariably makes things worse. At Liverpool he lived off the 05 CL win for far too long. And at Inter, he took over the CL winners and damn near got them relegated.
At Newcastle he got a 0-0 at home to Villa. Should have been sacked then. Me and my mates could've beaten Villa. Chelsea were rubbish last year and at the nadir of our uselessness, we won 0-4 at Villa Park.
He was pretty terrible at Chelsea. Anyone who thinks our CL victory was lucky ought to look at our Europa win under Benetez, we were dire.
He may (unfortunately) get Newcastle up, mainly because he has better players at his disposal than the rest of the teams. But if he does, he will do nothing in the Prem. In a few years time Geordies will be making his life a living hell and spitting at his wife.
ks Rafa is a good manager and Chelsea fans treated him like absolute s
te when he did a much better job than some of the other managers you had around that time.Gassing Station | Football | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff