The Official England Thread-The Team We All Support [Vol 2]

[DMN]

smn159 said:

Will he play four four fking two, I wonder?

[/Mike Basset]

Thankfully, no. We'll see the 451/433 and 442 Diamond he's used in the past.

[bad company]

I can see Andy Carroll playing up front and lots of long balls aimed towards his head.

Great stuff.

[Evil Jack]

Turquoise said:

smn159 said:

Will he play four four fking two, I wonder?

[/Mike Basset]

Only if Benson & Hedges are available.

That's a massively underrated film. It's portrayal of the FA is just superb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3XZniY2D-w

Edited by Evil Jack on Thursday 14th July 10:01

[bad company]

Dr Murdoch said:

+ He was ste at Spurs, worse at Wolves and has remained unemployed (in a management capacity ever since), why would that be if he was some sort of management god?

I too don't get the Hoddle love in.

Hoddle had a 60% win rate as manager of England, that has only been bettered by Alf Ramsey.

OK he said something stupid some years ago. Does he have to carry that to his grave?

Anyway it looks like big Sam will get the job.

[SWoll]

bad company said:

Hoddle had a 60% win rate as manager of England, that has only been bettered by Alf Ramsey.

OK he said something stupid some years ago. Does he have to carry that to his grave?

Anyway it looks like big Sam will get the job.

His pure stats are no better than Sven's when you actually look at them, and at least he got us to 3 quarter finals. Hoddle's only achievement in tournament football was a second round knockout at France 98 after finishing as runner up to Romania in arguably the easiest group.

Utterly out of touch and still bonkers, he'd be a really bad choice IMHO.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

bad company said:

OK he said something stupid some years ago. Does he have to carry that to his grave?

He has never retracted it. He has apologised for the upset caused but never for the views expressed. He wasn't misquoted or quoted out of context. He believed was he said was true then and he still believes it today.

And, not only did he say something stupid, but he did something stupid, the whole Eileen Drury debacle. Something else that he still believes.

Whether he carries it to his grave is entirely up to him. How long is he going to continue to believe utter fking nonsense?

[Turquoise]

Evil Jack said:

It's portrayal of the FA is just superb.

If I'm not in just stick a note under the door.

There's one from Ron Greenwood here!

It's funny because it's (believably) true...

[bad company]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

He has never retracted it. He has apologised for the upset caused but never for the views expressed. He wasn't misquoted or quoted out of context. He believed was he said was true then and he still believes it today.

And, not only did he say something stupid, but he did something stupid, the whole Eileen Drury debacle. Something else that he still believes.

Whether he carries it to his grave is entirely up to him. How long is he going to continue to believe utter fking nonsense?

I had forgotten about Eileen Drewry, she was a fruitcake IMO. Hoddle's record as a football manager is still very good tho.

[zygalski]

What we need is more foreign players in the PL. Should bring the skills of the home-frown boys right up. You learn a lot on the bench

[TwigtheWonderkid]

zygalski said:

What we need is more foreign players in the PL. Should bring the skills of the home-frown boys right up. You learn a lot on the bench

Foreign players aren't the cause of our demise, they are a symptom of it.

[Mr Snrub]

zygalski said:

What we need is more foreign players in the PL. Should bring the skills of the home-frown boys right up. You learn a lot on the bench

Yes because the England team were world beaters pre 1992, then Carlos Kickaball turned up to ruin it

[hornetrider]

You know, I genuinely couldn't find one which goes as low as England

[BrabusMog]

Belgium listed as second and Argentina first

Not English, before you launch into some stats based bks regarding st I don't care about

[Axionknight]

hornetrider said:

You know, I genuinely couldn't find one which goes as low as England

Aye it's a fair scroll past Uruguay in 12th to get to England in 13th

Were Wales not higher than 11th at one point, or have I mis remembered??

[Challo]

BrabusMog said:

Belgium listed as second and Argentina first

Not English, before you launch into some stats based bks regarding st I don't care about

The rankings are a waste of time as they take into account friendlies which we all know no-one really cares about. Im unsure if they are weighted to tournaments though as although we are brilliant at qualifying we suck in tournaments.

[SWoll]

bad company said:

I had forgotten about Eileen Drewry, she was a fruitcake IMO. Hoddle's record as a football manager is still very good tho.

It really isn't.

At club level his average win ratio is below 40%, so barely better than 1 in 3.

For England he has the same points per game total as Sven (2.04) and worse than both Hodgson (2.07) and Capello (2.19). Win percentage at international level means nothing if it's predominantly friendlies against ste opposition.

We got knocked out in the 2nd round of the only major tournament he went to (France 98) after losing the group to Romania.

Serious case of rose tinted glasses going on.

[aeropilot]

SWoll said:

bad company said:

I had forgotten about Eileen Drewry, she was a fruitcake IMO. Hoddle's record as a football manager is still very good tho.

It really isn't.

At club level his average win ratio is below 40%, so barely better than 1 in 3.

For England he has the same points per game total as Sven (2.04) and worse than both Hodgson (2.07) and Capello (2.19). Win percentage at international level means nothing if it's predominantly friendlies against ste opposition.

We got knocked out in the 2nd round of the only major tournament he went to (France 98) after losing the group to Romania.

Serious case of rose tinted glasses going on.

Indeed. And on top of which, it was all over a decade ago, and he's got no track record/anything on his CV since then, so waaaaaaaay out of touch, even without the 'other' issue.

Edited by aeropilot on Friday 15th July 11:06

[bad company]

aeropilot said:

Indeed. And on top of which, it was all over a decade ago, and he's got no track record/anything on his VC since then, so waaaaaaaay out of touch, even without the 'other' issue.

I didn't know Glen Hoddle had a Victoria Cross. What did he get that for?

[aeropilot]

bad company said:

aeropilot said:

Indeed. And on top of which, it was all over a decade ago, and he's got no track record/anything on his VC since then, so waaaaaaaay out of touch, even without the 'other' issue.

I didn't know Glen Hoddle had a Victoria Cross. What did he get that for?

Hah ha...... it certainly wasn't for services to football!

Slight brain-digit interface problem there

[tescorank]

I've been giving this manager thing some thought
and he is a possible serious contender and to me one of the funniest but best applicants.

http://youtu.be/33G8rUpUI08

Edited by tescorank on Saturday 16th July 22:45