The Official ENGLAND Thread - The Team We ALL Support

[essexplumber]

digikal said:

essexplumber said:

Are you for real, Suarez...racist tt....Terry...racist tt.....Ferdinand....racist tt.

I'm no ABU and Ferdinand is as musch a racist as Terry.

Grow up

Really? So Terry and Suarez are racist but Ferdinand isn't? How biased could you possibly be?

[digikal]

RichB said:

I'm not into the tribal stuff and don't read the red tops or the BBC website so in what respect is Rio Ferdinand racist?

In the plumbers twisted world, retweeting a comment that isnt actually racist makes Ferdinand a racist. According to the plumber he feels offended at the term "choc ice".

[Goonowski]

I still think we should arrange a PH footie forum 'white collar' boxing event and invite the rest of PH.

You know, for charity.

[essexplumber]

Goonowski said:

I still think we should arrange a PH footie forum 'white collar' boxing event and invite the rest of PH.

You know, for charity.

I would be bang up for that but I wouldn't consider myself "white collar".

[Goonowski]

essexplumber said:

I would be bang up for that but I wouldn't consider myself "white collar".

You can't come then. And what are you doing on PH?



I'm no collar. I just wear a t-shirt. So don't think I'll be invited either.

[digikal]

essexplumber said:

Well calling Ashley Cole a "choc ice" on Twitter is pretty bloody racist.

It isnt and he didnt call him it, he laughed at it, but again dont let the facts get in the way of your stupid argument.

How you can equate that to being dropped from England, because the captain of England called your brother a "black " I will never know.

[essexplumber]

digikal said:

In the plumbers twisted world, retweeting a comment that isnt actually racist makes Ferdinand a racist. According to the plumber he feels offended at the term "choc ice".

Sorry but thats bks.

[essexplumber]

Goonowski said:

You can't come then. And what are you doing on PH?

I sometimes wonder how I'm allowed out in daylight, put on a Hi Vis vest and suits everywhere treat you like dirt.

[RichB]

essexplumber said:

RichB said:

I'm not into the tribal stuff and don't read the red tops or the BBC website so in what respect is Rio Ferdinand racist?

Well calling Ashley Cole a "choc ice" on Twitter is pretty bloody racist.

If I understand the innuendo correctly isn't Ferdinand himself in that respect a 'choc ice' too?

[Goonowski]

EP, I use the term white collar as there are special training camps in london for people not familiar with boxing which go by the name 'white collar boxing' or something.

[essexplumber]

Goonowski said:

EP, I use the term white collar as there are special training camps in london for people not familiar with boxing which go by the name 'white collar training' or something.

I know, but as a "tradesmen" I feel that society in general is against me and merely sitting at a desk in a suit is enough to elevate someone above me in terms of intelligence, class, manners etc.

[RichB]

I've never heard the expression white collar boxing but I used to man the doors on boxing nights at the Albert Hall when chaps from London Transport provided the security an doormen. Anyway I digress

[Goonowski]

Don't think that's true at all. Plumbers earn top money and always busy and have a job for life so, at least I, always treat plumbers with respect. But I'm not a 'suit' so don't speak for the people you are talking about. The s.

[digikal]

RichB said:

If I understand the innuendo correctly isn't Ferdinand himself in that respect a 'choc ice' too?

The innuendo originally stems from the term "Uncle Tom" and was used by black people to criticise other black people who bowed down to the slave driver white man.

"Choc Ice" being a more modern version of the term with the insuation that Ashley Cole was betraying his own race for testifying in court on behalf of a racist.

Somebody Tweeted that Cole was a "Choc Ice", Ferdinand retweeted it with the words something like "Ha Ha Ha Classic"

Somehow in his brain, the plumber feels racially abused at this slur.

[essexplumber]

Goonowski said:

Don't think that's true at all. Plumbers earn top money and always busy and have a job for life so, at least I, always treat plumbers with respect. But I'm not a 'suit' so don't speak for the people you are banging on about. The s.

Seriously, I work at an office complex in St Albans sometimes and the majority of people there have the manners of a goat.

[RichB]

Didn't know that I assumed it was an oblique reference to being half brown and half white like a coc ice and of ourselves Rio but one lives and learns. Especially on Pistonheads

[Goonowski]

essexplumber said:

Seriously, I work at an office complex in St Albans sometimes and the majority of people there have the manners of a goat.

But St Albans is up north isn't it? What else do you expect from those monkeys.

[essexplumber]

digikal said:

Somehow in his brain, the plumber feels racially abused at this slur.

Completely yes. Because in "my brain" Rio Ferdinand was saying the there is something wrong with white people and Ashley Cole was betraying black people by acting too white.

[mickk]

RichB said:

Didn't know that I assumed it was an oblique reference to being half brown and half white like a coc ice and of ourselves Rio but one lives and learns. Especially on Pistonheads

A coc ice?

Sums the man up really.

[GloverMart]

To be fair, I'd always thought of the "choc ice" slur rather like the "coconut" one, means pretty much the same thing really. Not sure its racist though, but not particularly positive towards black people either.