The Official ENGLAND Thread - The Team We ALL Support

[RichB]

iPads are crap for typing on.

[digikal]

essexplumber said:

Completely yes. Because in "my brain" Rio Ferdinand was saying the there is something wrong with white people and Ashley Cole was betraying black people by acting too white.

A) Rio didnt call him a "choc ice" so you need to get that out of your head
B) As Smart Mart has said below it isnt a racist term
C) Its a derogotary term aimed at a black person, it is not derogotary against white people. Its like you testifying in court against a Spurs fan in favour of an Arsenal fan, and me saying you arent a real Spurs fan (and yes that analogy is terrible but its probably the only way to explain it to you)

[Gun]

essexplumber said:

I know, but as a "tradesmen" I feel that society in general is against me and merely sitting at a desk in a suit is enough to elevate someone above me in terms of intelligence, class, manners etc.

Been meaning to ask EP which part of the industry do you work in; residential, commercial etc?

[Justin Cyder]

digikal said:

A) Rio didnt call him a "choc ice" so you need to get that out of your head

Ferdinand replied to this tweet:

"Looks like Ashley Cole's going to be their choc ice. Then again he's always been a sell out.

"Shame on him."

by tweeting "I hear you fella! Choc ice is classic! hahahahahahha!!"


So in other words, he didn't tell the guy to fk off. The FA saw it that way as did the rest of the country (known to you as ABU's) and fined him the fat end of fifty bags. £50,000 to you Arkwright.

So don't take the rest of us for mugs & try to re-write what happened. Most of us didn't come down in the last shower.

[mickk]

Arkwright

[Amirhussain]

fking hell, how off topic has this thread gone. Anyways, England will be happy with the big scoreline, but they know its a very minor team. San Marino had no clue what to do, couldn't put two passes together even if they're lives depended on it. Joe Hart should have just stayed at home.

Can't wait for the Montenegro match.

[digikal]

Justin Cyder said:

Ferdinand replied to this tweet:

"Looks like Ashley Cole's going to be their choc ice. Then again he's always been a sell out.

"Shame on him."

by tweeting "I hear you fella! Choc ice is classic! hahahahahahha!!"


So in other words, he didn't tell the guy to fk off. The FA saw it that way as did the rest of the country (known to you as ABU's) and fined him the fat end of fifty bags. £50,000 to you Arkwright.

So don't take the rest of us for mugs & try to re-write what happened. Most of us didn't come down in the last shower.

For someone who believes himself to be so eloquent, you appear to have an inability to read my posts, as I stated pretty much exactly what you have written above about the exchange between Ferdinand and the original tweeter.

As has already been shown the FA support racists (Terry) and hate Man Utd, so the fine (literally pocket money to Ferdinand) is irrelevant to the facts of the incident.

[Amirhussain]

digikal said:

Justin Cyder said:

Ferdinand replied to this tweet:

"Looks like Ashley Cole's going to be their choc ice. Then again he's always been a sell out.

"Shame on him."

by tweeting "I hear you fella! Choc ice is classic! hahahahahahha!!"


So in other words, he didn't tell the guy to fk off. The FA saw it that way as did the rest of the country (known to you as ABU's) and fined him the fat end of fifty bags. £50,000 to you Arkwright.

So don't take the rest of us for mugs & try to re-write what happened. Most of us didn't come down in the last shower.

As has already been shown the FA support racists (Terry) and hate Man Utd, so the fine (literally pocket money to Ferdinand) is irrelevant to the facts of the incident.

John Terry was found not guilty though.
http://news.sky.com/story/959809/john-terry-found-...

[Justin Cyder]

digikal said:

For someone who believes himself to be so eloquent, you appear to have an inability to read my posts, as I stated pretty much exactly what you have written above about the exchange between Ferdinand and the original tweeter.

As has already been shown the FA support racists (Terry) and hate Man Utd, so the fine (literally pocket money to Ferdinand) is irrelevant to the facts of the incident.

Unwillingness over inability. The fine is irrelevant how? Irrelevant since he's a multi millionaire or irrelevant because in your world two wrongs make a right?

[digikal]

Amirhussain said:

John Terry was found not guilty though.
http://news.sky.com/story/959809/john-terry-found-...

He has admitted it

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-...

[Justin Cyder]

And where have I given it the big one about eloquence You whey faced pultoon?

[Goonowski]

Amirhussain said:

fking hell, how off topic has this thread gone.

It certainly has.

Great training exercise for England tonight.

[iim]

digikal said:

As has already been shown the FA support racists (Terry) and hate Man Utd, so the fine (literally pocket money to Ferdinand) is irrelevant to the facts of the incident.

And that, in a nutshell, is your WHOLE argument.

Everyone hates us they're all racists and we're the picked upon.

Sing a different song once in a while ffs

[digikal]

Justin Cyder said:

Unwillingness over inability. The fine is irrelevant how? Irrelevant since he's a multi millionaire or irrelevant because in your world two wrongs make a right?

Irrelevant to the extent that the FA fining Ferdinand £50K doesnt mean he is a racist, furthermore laughing at something on Twitter doesn't equate to being dropped from England because your brother was called a "black " by "Lionheart"

[digikal]

iim said:

And that, in a nutshell, is your WHOLE argument.

Everyone hates us they're all racists and we're the picked upon.

Sing a different song once in a while ffs

Wrong Jim, that is not my argument. My argument is bringing the facts to the table about the whole "Riogate" saga. You also know deep down the only reason this has blown up so much is because he plays for United.

If you were dropped from the national side because your brother was racically abused, then rather than being told your intenational career was over face to face, the manager told someone on the tube instead, would you honestly bother to play for the national side again?

I know that I wouldnt. Do try and answer honestly.

[Amirhussain]

digikal said:

iim said:

And that, in a nutshell, is your WHOLE argument.

Everyone hates us they're all racists and we're the picked upon.

Sing a different song once in a while ffs

If you were dropped from the national side because your brother was racically abused,

Wheres the proof that he was dropped because of this?

[iim]

Amirhussain said:

digikal said:

iim said:

And that, in a nutshell, is your WHOLE argument.

Everyone hates us they're all racists and we're the picked upon.

Sing a different song once in a while ffs

If you were dropped from the national side because your brother was racically abused,

Wheres the proof that he was dropped because of this?

There isn't any, but then there's no proof of FA bias against United or any of the other ABU crap that gets re-tweeted by Digi (most would argue that the FA are actually biased in favour of United).

[digikal]

Amirhussain said:

Wheres the proof that he was dropped because of this?

He is without argument better than Cahill, Jones, and Lescott and he is also better than Terry although I am sure someone will try and argue otherwise.

Ergo he was not dropped for footballing reasons.

[Justin Cyder]

digikal said:

Irrelevant to the extent that the FA fining Ferdinand £50K doesnt mean he is a racist, furthermore laughing at something on Twitter doesn't equate to being dropped from England because your brother was called a "black " by "Lionheart"

Only you are saying this. The fine was for improper conduct. You really should give up tilting at windmills Don Quiarkwright.

[Amirhussain]

digikal said:

Amirhussain said:

Wheres the proof that he was dropped because of this?

He is without argument better than Cahill, Jones, and Lescott and he is also better than Terry although I am sure someone will try and argue otherwise.

Ergo he was not dropped for footballing reasons.

Better than Cahill, Jones, Lescott and Terry is not proof. Thats just your opinion, I'm asking for proof, a link/source where it specifically says he was dropped because Anton was racially abused.