The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 4]

The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 4]

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Cie

18,821 posts

195 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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anonymous said:
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Was just going to say about the FFP. If it wasn't our money we'd be getting sanctions like the other lottery funds.

We're spending within our means. smile

Cie

18,821 posts

195 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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London424 said:
Under Fergie I didn't hear too many complaints on here about Valencia, Nani or Young, but Di Maria is a significant upgrade on all of them...but I'm guessing if you stick Di Maria at left wing back he'll not be anywhere near as good.
They have seriously regressed. Nani shown promise for about 26 years and fulfilled it every now and then, Valencia was our best player a few seasons ago so no reason to complain and Young had a decent start but that was like 3 years ago.

Tuvra

7,921 posts

227 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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London424 said:
Well in my view Utd have panic bought Fellani, then Mata and now Di Maria. The reason is all have come in as either positions that didn't need filling or in the last week/days of a transfer window.

You rarely see a team buy a big name player like that right at the end of a window (with next to no links prior to the signing).

Of course he's a great player and will no doubt improve the side and as has been said "it isn't my money", but if I was a fan I'd be hoping some defenders were coming in over the next week.
I heard the Di Maria deal has taken 2 months to sew up, hardly a rushed transfer? confused

London424

12,830 posts

177 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Tuvra said:
London424 said:
Well in my view Utd have panic bought Fellani, then Mata and now Di Maria. The reason is all have come in as either positions that didn't need filling or in the last week/days of a transfer window.

You rarely see a team buy a big name player like that right at the end of a window (with next to no links prior to the signing).

Of course he's a great player and will no doubt improve the side and as has been said "it isn't my money", but if I was a fan I'd be hoping some defenders were coming in over the next week.
I heard the Di Maria deal has taken 2 months to sew up, hardly a rushed transfer? confused
2 months and no-one knew anything about it until a couple of days ago...not sure if I believe that.

TEKNOPUG

19,059 posts

207 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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London424 said:
2 months and no-one knew anything about it until a couple of days ago...not sure if I believe that.
2 months to convince him to leave Madrid for Manchester by the sound of it.

Cie

18,821 posts

195 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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I don't believe a £60,000,000 transfer is done in a couple of days either.

Nobody knew about Herrera, lots of leaks seem to have been plugged/briefings stopped.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

214 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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TEKNOPUG said:
London424 said:
2 months and no-one knew anything about it until a couple of days ago...not sure if I believe that.
2 months to convince him to leave Madrid for Manchester by the sound of it.
Exactly. Man Utds initial contact might have been 2 months ago, but the player has only recently decided to leave Real!

Tuvra

7,921 posts

227 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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London424 said:
2 months and no-one knew anything about it until a couple of days ago...not sure if I believe that.
A quick google reveals thats not true, this was posted exactly a month ago:

"United in pole position for desperate Di Maria: Angel Di Maria has travelled to the United States in a desperate attempt to push through a move to Manchester United, according to the Daily Star. PSG had looked his most likely destination after the summer acquisitions of Toni Kroos and James Rodriguez appeared to make the Argentine surplus to requirements at the Bernabeu. However, Financial Fair Play restrictions on the French club appear to have put that move in danger, which has made United the new favourites to sign the forward. Di Maria is set to cost in the region of £45 million."

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/391109/E...

Edited by Tuvra on Wednesday 27th August 11:36

Adam B

27,443 posts

256 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Cie said:
I don't get why people don't think we needed a massive upgrade on the wings as well as MF & CB. Would Young, Nani or Valenica play for the teams above us? Highly doubt it.
oh I don't know - I reckon Sunderland or West Brom would take them

TEKNOPUG

19,059 posts

207 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Adam B said:
Cie said:
I don't get why people don't think we needed a massive upgrade on the wings as well as MF & CB. Would Young, Nani or Valenica play for the teams above us? Highly doubt it.
oh I don't know - I reckon Sunderland or West Brom would take them
Valencia has a bit about him - the other 2 are garbage.

m3sye

26,231 posts

203 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Tuvra said:
A quick google reveals thats not true, this was posted exactly a month ago:

"United in pole position for desperate Di Maria: Angel Di Maria has travelled to the United States in a desperate attempt to push through a move to Manchester United, according to the Daily Star. PSG had looked his most likely destination after the summer acquisitions of Toni Kroos and James Rodriguez appeared to make the Argentine surplus to requirements at the Bernabeu. However, Financial Fair Play restrictions on the French club appear to have put that move in danger, which has made United the new favourites to sign the forward. Di Maria is set to cost in the region of £45 million."

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/391109/E...

Edited by Tuvra on Wednesday 27th August 11:36
Does it really matter how long its taken if he has come ??

People need to stop trying to knock the signing of Di Maria - yes UTD are in a bit of a turnmoil atm but lets be honest that signing is good for anyone - A lot of money but UTD can afford it so who cares??

Adam B

27,443 posts

256 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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m3sye said:
People need to stop trying to knock the signing of Di Maria - yes UTD are in a bit of a turnmoil atm but lets be honest that signing is good for anyone - A lot of money but UTD can afford it so who cares??
agree - its only a silly signing if it has taken resources away from signing in more important areas for Utd - not cash which Utd have plenty of but scouting/negotiation/legal/medical time.

ultimately a quality player but Utd need 4 or 5 more to challenge City/Chavs

epom

11,733 posts

163 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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In the long run last night might be a blessing in disguise, as its a massive reality check for everyone involved with the club. Now a very funny one for the rest of us it must be said smile

Wombat3

12,386 posts

208 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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TEKNOPUG said:
Adam B said:
Cie said:
I don't get why people don't think we needed a massive upgrade on the wings as well as MF & CB. Would Young, Nani or Valenica play for the teams above us? Highly doubt it.
oh I don't know - I reckon Sunderland or West Brom would take them
Valencia has a bit about him - the other 2 are garbage.
Valencia is , I'm afraid, a bit of a one trick (and very one footed) pony. He does pretty much the same thing every single time he has he ball. To his credit though he will deliver a great covering tackle once in a while too (which is more than the other two ever do).

Young was supposedly looking much better in the US, but has reverted to type (he belongs back at Villa or West Brom), Nani has just been disappointing from whichever way you look at him. None of them would make it into Cheski or City's teams & probably not Arsenal's either.

Tuvra

7,921 posts

227 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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m3sye said:
Does it really matter how long its taken if he has come ??

People need to stop trying to knock the signing of Di Maria - yes UTD are in a bit of a turnmoil atm but lets be honest that signing is good for anyone - A lot of money but UTD can afford it so who cares??
No, I am just confirming that this signing has certainly not "come out of thin air" and is a desperate purchase like some are suggesting....

F1GTRUeno

6,388 posts

220 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Wombat3 said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Adam B said:
Cie said:
I don't get why people don't think we needed a massive upgrade on the wings as well as MF & CB. Would Young, Nani or Valenica play for the teams above us? Highly doubt it.
oh I don't know - I reckon Sunderland or West Brom would take them
Valencia has a bit about him - the other 2 are garbage.
Valencia is , I'm afraid, a bit of a one trick (and very one footed) pony. He does pretty much the same thing every single time he has he ball. To his credit though he will deliver a great covering tackle once in a while too (which is more than the other two ever do).

Young was supposedly looking much better in the US, but has reverted to type (he belongs back at Villa or West Brom), Nani has just been disappointing from whichever way you look at him. None of them would make it into Cheski or City's teams & probably not Arsenal's either.
There's not a probably.

Young, Nani and Valencia would struggle to get in any of the top ten.

Fletcher and Cleverley would struggle to get into any Premiership side at all.

London424

12,830 posts

177 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Tuvra said:
m3sye said:
Does it really matter how long its taken if he has come ??

People need to stop trying to knock the signing of Di Maria - yes UTD are in a bit of a turnmoil atm but lets be honest that signing is good for anyone - A lot of money but UTD can afford it so who cares??
No, I am just confirming that this signing has certainly not "come out of thin air" and is a desperate purchase like some are suggesting....
So the Daily Star had something a month or so ago...and nothing in the interim from any other outlet.

Whereas when Bale was going last year, or Suarez this year it was constant.

I'd expect a low value or unknown signing to be a bit below the radar, but you're talking about one of the highest transfer fees ever between two massive clubs.

worsy

5,836 posts

177 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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London424 said:
Tuvra said:
m3sye said:
Does it really matter how long its taken if he has come ??

People need to stop trying to knock the signing of Di Maria - yes UTD are in a bit of a turnmoil atm but lets be honest that signing is good for anyone - A lot of money but UTD can afford it so who cares??
No, I am just confirming that this signing has certainly not "come out of thin air" and is a desperate purchase like some are suggesting....
So the Daily Star had something a month or so ago...and nothing in the interim from any other outlet.

Whereas when Bale was going last year, or Suarez this year it was constant.

I'd expect a low value or unknown signing to be a bit below the radar, but you're talking about one of the highest transfer fees ever between two massive clubs.
You keep pressing this button for some reason (WUM?) however as I'm sure you know transfer speculation from club to club is very different. When Bale moved, RM made it beknown publicly they were interested. This is how they manage their galactico signings. Similarly Suaraz was subject to much speculation following his hunger pains during the WC.

Usually United keep their business private, and I suspect RM were keen to sell to United as not in Europe this year. It therefore suited all parties to discuss out of the public domain.

GhostDriver

878 posts

194 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Marca

Madrid's mouthpiece ran a story at the beginning of July


http://www.redcafe.net/threads/angel-di-maria.3929...

We have been on this transfer for a very long time.

In fact we were trying to sign him in 2007 when he signed for Benfica. We couldn't get a work permit so we offered to buy him and send him on loan to our 2nd division feeder club in Spain.
Unsurprisingly he cjose to sign for Benfica instead.

So panic buy, after 5 years of trying?

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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m3sye said:
Does it really matter how long its taken if he has come ??

People need to stop trying to knock the signing of Di Maria - yes UTD are in a bit of a turnmoil atm but lets be honest that signing is good for anyone - A lot of money but UTD can afford it so who cares??
Ah but Sye, you are approaching the situation from that of a football fan. If you were to be wildly ABU and have a huge wish to WUM this thread with little or no content just blah blah panic buy, blah blah relegation, blah blah Moyes etc then you would see it differently smile

Appreciate your sensible post in a sea of ste though
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