The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 4]

The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 4]

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hilly10

7,200 posts

230 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Tuvra said:
No, I am just confirming that this signing has certainly not "come out of thin air" and is a desperate purchase like some are suggesting....
Its desperate money to pay, in the real world he is never worth 60m

MiniMan64

17,086 posts

192 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Why the hell am I seeing a story this morning about us buying bloody Joe Allen for 20mil?!

Are we trying to nobble the market in crap midfielders?

hilly10

7,200 posts

230 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Desperate measures in the Manure Camp if its true. Joe fkin Allen

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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MiniMan64 said:
Why the hell am I seeing a story this morning about us buying bloody Joe Allen for 20mil?!

Are we trying to nobble the market in crap midfielders?
has got be an inspired wind up surely?

Cie

18,821 posts

195 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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hilly10 said:
Desperate measures in the Manure Camp if its true. Joe fkin Allen
Of course it's not true...

Black can man

31,884 posts

170 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Really can't see Liverpool selling one of their star assets to one of their closest rivals, especially with a Europa league spot at stake .

dandarez

13,333 posts

285 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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I wonder come the end of the season whether the current inquest will be forgotten and just a blip?

I do know that everyone crowed LvG was the best appointment for Utd, while back at the club I now armchair support (Spurs) it was wondered if Pochettino was yet 'another' right new boss?
He only took over at Southampton in January 2013, replacing Nigel Adkins, but he led them to 8th place - Southampton's highest finish in the Premier League.

LvG is apparently 'not shocked' at the thrashing by MKDons. He must be alone!

My view at this moment?
I think Spurs have struck gold and Utd have struck bling.

Time, as usual, will tell.

Cie

18,821 posts

195 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Black can man said:
Really can't see Liverpool selling one of their star assets to one of their closest rivals, especially with a Europa league spot at stake .
Star asset. hehe

Hornet will gobble that one up.

Black can man

31,884 posts

170 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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The Welsh " Xavi " they say .


Looks a bit on the rich side @ £20M

gaz1234

5,233 posts

221 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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4-0.
As I said. 442 and CB

Cie

18,821 posts

195 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Doubt we'd get Joe di Allén at that price.

Cheib

23,379 posts

177 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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London424 said:
Tuvra said:
London424 said:
Well in my view Utd have panic bought Fellani, then Mata and now Di Maria. The reason is all have come in as either positions that didn't need filling or in the last week/days of a transfer window.

You rarely see a team buy a big name player like that right at the end of a window (with next to no links prior to the signing).

Of course he's a great player and will no doubt improve the side and as has been said "it isn't my money", but if I was a fan I'd be hoping some defenders were coming in over the next week.
I heard the Di Maria deal has taken 2 months to sew up, hardly a rushed transfer? confused
2 months and no-one knew anything about it until a couple of days ago...not sure if I believe that.
The Mata deal was months in the making too.....he wanted to leave Chelski last summer but was asked by Abramovich to keep quiet in return for a guaranteed departure in the winter window when Utd bought him. His Dad (who is his agent) was in The Emirates directors box for Arsenal's first home game against Villa last season.....

Gandahar

9,600 posts

130 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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MK Dons 4 MU Duds 0

Things will get better though.


London424

12,830 posts

177 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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worsy said:
London424 said:
Tuvra said:
m3sye said:
Does it really matter how long its taken if he has come ??

People need to stop trying to knock the signing of Di Maria - yes UTD are in a bit of a turnmoil atm but lets be honest that signing is good for anyone - A lot of money but UTD can afford it so who cares??
No, I am just confirming that this signing has certainly not "come out of thin air" and is a desperate purchase like some are suggesting....
So the Daily Star had something a month or so ago...and nothing in the interim from any other outlet.

Whereas when Bale was going last year, or Suarez this year it was constant.

I'd expect a low value or unknown signing to be a bit below the radar, but you're talking about one of the highest transfer fees ever between two massive clubs.
You keep pressing this button for some reason (WUM?) however as I'm sure you know transfer speculation from club to club is very different. When Bale moved, RM made it beknown publicly they were interested. This is how they manage their galactico signings. Similarly Suaraz was subject to much speculation following his hunger pains during the WC.

Usually United keep their business private, and I suspect RM were keen to sell to United as not in Europe this year. It therefore suited all parties to discuss out of the public domain.
Why does any comment that doesn't agree with the locals/supporters have to be a WUM? I've already said that I think it's a great signing. I also just happen to think that it's a bit of a surprise that someone so high profile has moved in the last week of the transfer window without much of a word in the media (relatively speaking for a transfer like this).


anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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London424 said:
Why does any comment that doesn't agree with the locals/supporters have to be a WUM? I've already said that I think it's a great signing. I also just happen to think that it's a bit of a surprise that someone so high profile has moved in the last week of the transfer window without much of a word in the media (relatively speaking for a transfer like this).
Because you seem determined to make this transfer suit your own agenda despite evidence to the contrary.

There are 2 ways a transfer can happen, loudly, in the press trying to court and unsettle a player, or quietly, behind the scenes with 2 clubs having talks in private with the player, agents etc and sorting everything before the press get a sniff

I'm surprised as a football fan you were not aware of this

ascayman

12,791 posts

218 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Isn't it always the case with LVG that the first few months are a shambles because he changes so much, after a few months the players seem to 'get it' and success follows, iirc he was weeks away from getting the sack at Bayen, same at Ajax and at AZ etc.

You'll be just fine.

That said he should have put out a far better team last night, its not as if you are going to be over loaded with fixtures this season.

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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ascayman said:
Isn't it always the case with LVG that the first few months are a shambles because he changes so much, after a few months the players seem to 'get it' and success follows, iirc he was weeks away from getting the sack at Bayen, same at Ajax and at AZ etc.

You'll be just fine.

That said he should have put out a far better team last night, its not as if you are going to be over loaded with fixtures this season.
I think you are right, but I still have my doubts about 3-5-2 and hope we will move to 4-3-3 (or a version thereof)

Regarding last night I suspect that LvG couldn't give a toss about the League Cup, he has been brought in to take us back to Top 4 as a minimum so that we have CL and the revenue and apparent cache that it brings. Looking at the senior players who played last night barring Evans and DDG I think they have all been linked with moves away, I think they had last night to prove themselves and failed miserably.

London424

12,830 posts

177 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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anonymous said:
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What agenda? It's just my opinion...I thought that was what forums were about? Sharing differing opinions.

Of course I know that transfers happen both publicly and privately...my only point was that I can't think of another high profile transfer (as in the top 10 most expensive of all time) being done this quietly...hence my assumption that it was a 'last minute' transfer.


Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

281 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Just like watching Brazil


Zoon

6,731 posts

123 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Press appear to be reporting terms are agreed with Vidal now?
Surely it's more important to agree with Juventus initially?

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/503914/Man...
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