The Official Tottenham Hotspur Thread [Vol 7]

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BlackST

9,080 posts

167 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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ascayman said:
BlackST said:
What's that song you lot sang about a thousand times? Something about away?
There are a couple of popular ones doing the rounds at the moment, hopefully it was the 'everywhere we go, every where we goooo, its Tottenham Boys, making all the noise, every where we go.

rather than the 'kick his fking head in' one.
That be the one smile seemed a favourite for your fans.

mickk

29,019 posts

244 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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BlackST said:
That be the one smile seemed a favourite for your fans.
We stole it from Sheffield United after the semi final.

TEKNOPUG

19,040 posts

207 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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High on excitement, low on quality. Think that game came too soon after the derbies for both teams. We were sloppy in possession, especially Mason& Bentaleb who had poor games by their usual standards. Scouse did enough to take the points I think although could have gone either way.

On the plus side, Lloris proved that he is actually human and not a cyborg sent from the future. And Dembele had another stormer and actually looks fit for a change.

silverfoxcc

7,717 posts

147 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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As Balatelli(sp?, not that i give a fk) came on i said to mrs Fox. 'Put money on him to score' ..and did nothing

My lad did and got a result at 4/1

70proof

6,057 posts

157 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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how was ivanovic not punished post match for violent conduct? (would have suited us for the final)

and how many loyalty points do you think we'll need for final tickets, i'll get a ticket, but my sons only have 101 loyalty points.... worried

mickk

29,019 posts

244 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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70proof said:
how was ivanovic not punished post match for violent conduct? (would have suited us for the final)

and how many loyalty points do you think we'll need for final tickets, i'll get a ticket, but my sons only have 101 loyalty points.... worried
31,000 available so all season ticket holders should be okay.

70proof

6,057 posts

157 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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mickk said:
31,000 available so all season ticket holders should be okay.
yep, official site says all sth will get one ticket if they want it...... leaves only about 10k for members assuming 100% uptake... http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/membership/loyalty...

Rosscow

8,797 posts

165 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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I've just been thinking about our new stadium, and TV money.

We received £90m of TV money last season, no doubt the same or more this season, and the same or similar the season before. We've actually made a profit on player transfers over the last 5 seasons.

This is before match day revenue, sponsorship and any other income (merchandise, etc).

Where does all of our money go? I know we have built the training ground but presume finance for that was probably sorted best part of a decade ago.

I'm thinking that, in an ideal world and especially with the new TV money from next season (we should be getting £125m or more a season easily) we should be able to pay for our stadium pretty much debt free.

Am I in cuckoo land or is there a real possibility of building this thing with minimal debt?

London424

12,829 posts

177 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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Rosscow said:
I've just been thinking about our new stadium, and TV money.

We received £90m of TV money last season, no doubt the same or more this season, and the same or similar the season before. We've actually made a profit on player transfers over the last 5 seasons.

This is before match day revenue, sponsorship and any other income (merchandise, etc).

Where does all of our money go? I know we have built the training ground but presume finance for that was probably sorted best part of a decade ago.

I'm thinking that, in an ideal world and especially with the new TV money from next season (we should be getting £125m or more a season easily) we should be able to pay for our stadium pretty much debt free.

Am I in cuckoo land or is there a real possibility of building this thing with minimal debt?
That is the million dollar question...money is not being spent on player transfers (- a few million over the last 5 years), BUT, when you read the report and accounts there isn't a massive cash pile building up...so no clue where the money is.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

207 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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Everyone is in the same boat more or less. Transfer fees, agents fees and wages. There is no chance this massive deal will filter through to cheaper ticket prices for the fans.

Rosscow

8,797 posts

165 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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hornetrider said:
Everyone is in the same boat more or less. Transfer fees, agents fees and wages. There is no chance this massive deal will filter through to cheaper ticket prices for the fans.
I don't give a st about ticket prices! hehe

Rosscow

8,797 posts

165 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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London424 said:
Rosscow said:
I've just been thinking about our new stadium, and TV money.

We received £90m of TV money last season, no doubt the same or more this season, and the same or similar the season before. We've actually made a profit on player transfers over the last 5 seasons.

This is before match day revenue, sponsorship and any other income (merchandise, etc).

Where does all of our money go? I know we have built the training ground but presume finance for that was probably sorted best part of a decade ago.

I'm thinking that, in an ideal world and especially with the new TV money from next season (we should be getting £125m or more a season easily) we should be able to pay for our stadium pretty much debt free.

Am I in cuckoo land or is there a real possibility of building this thing with minimal debt?
That is the million dollar question...money is not being spent on player transfers (- a few million over the last 5 years), BUT, when you read the report and accounts there isn't a massive cash pile building up...so no clue where the money is.
Hmm.... very interesting. Perhaps they'll surprise us all by saying that it's paid for in full when they open it!

Black can man

31,884 posts

170 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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Just a teaser before the DVD release next week.



http://spurs.to/NLDday

ascayman

12,787 posts

218 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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London424 said:
Rosscow said:
I've just been thinking about our new stadium, and TV money.

We received £90m of TV money last season, no doubt the same or more this season, and the same or similar the season before. We've actually made a profit on player transfers over the last 5 seasons.

This is before match day revenue, sponsorship and any other income (merchandise, etc).

Where does all of our money go? I know we have built the training ground but presume finance for that was probably sorted best part of a decade ago.

I'm thinking that, in an ideal world and especially with the new TV money from next season (we should be getting £125m or more a season easily) we should be able to pay for our stadium pretty much debt free.

Am I in cuckoo land or is there a real possibility of building this thing with minimal debt?
That is the million dollar question...money is not being spent on player transfers (- a few million over the last 5 years), BUT, when you read the report and accounts there isn't a massive cash pile building up...so no clue where the money is.
I've been saying this for ages I can believe there hadn't been a bigger fuss about it

BrabusMog

20,247 posts

188 months

Saturday 14th February 2015
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ascayman said:
London424 said:
Rosscow said:
I've just been thinking about our new stadium, and TV money.

We received £90m of TV money last season, no doubt the same or more this season, and the same or similar the season before. We've actually made a profit on player transfers over the last 5 seasons.

This is before match day revenue, sponsorship and any other income (merchandise, etc).

Where does all of our money go? I know we have built the training ground but presume finance for that was probably sorted best part of a decade ago.

I'm thinking that, in an ideal world and especially with the new TV money from next season (we should be getting £125m or more a season easily) we should be able to pay for our stadium pretty much debt free.

Am I in cuckoo land or is there a real possibility of building this thing with minimal debt?
That is the million dollar question...money is not being spent on player transfers (- a few million over the last 5 years), BUT, when you read the report and accounts there isn't a massive cash pile building up...so no clue where the money is.
I've been saying this for ages I can believe there hadn't been a bigger fuss about it
Well if you're posting profits, surely it's going out as divi's? Uncle Joe must be happy smile

London424

12,829 posts

177 months

Saturday 14th February 2015
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BrabusMog said:
Well if you're posting profits, surely it's going out as divi's? Uncle Joe must be happy smile
The profit is only a million here and there...so it's not that either.

I'm no accountant but when I read the accounts it seems that the value of the training ground was transferred onto the books and it didn't appear as a 'spend' item...so I think the same might be happening with the stadium.

Where's that resident accountant when you need one! BCM, next time you get his predictathon results see if he can have a look through the accounts and give his view?

mickk

29,019 posts

244 months

Saturday 14th February 2015
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London424 said:
Where's that resident accountant when you need one! BCM, next time you get his predictathon results see if he can have a look through the accounts and give his view?
im was the only accountant I knew that couldn't add up. hehe

London424

12,829 posts

177 months

Saturday 14th February 2015
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mickk said:
im was the only accountant I knew that couldn't add up. hehe
It's ok, we don't need sums doing...just a reading of how stuff like assets is accounted for...he should be fine hehe

IPK

286 posts

159 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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185 loyalty points required for the final.

Adam B

27,399 posts

256 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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London424 said:
The profit is only a million here and there...so it's not that either.

I'm no accountant but when I read the accounts it seems that the value of the training ground was transferred onto the books and it didn't appear as a 'spend' item...so I think the same might be happening with the stadium.

Where's that resident accountant when you need one! BCM, next time you get his predictathon results see if he can have a look through the accounts and give his view?
I am - the cost of the stadium would hit your balance sheet not your profit (depending on the accounting policies you adopt), but the cost would be amortised (charged over time) to your profit, generally spread over the years of use and when you get revenue from the asset. I cannot be bothered to look but the details may be in the "notes to accounts" section of the annual report. So potenetailyl th eclub could spend £300M on a stadium bill but only release costs of say £10M per year over 30 years beginning 2016 when you move in to the new place and get the extra revenue.

Aside from that the basic maths are - revenues up, profits not increasing, divis not increasing = costs increasing. I don't know why people keeping looking at just the net spend on transfers.

eg
Sell Bale on £50k per week for £85M
Buy 7 players for total £80M on average £50k per week

Net transfer spend -£5M
Annual costs up £15M


Edited by Adam B on Monday 16th February 14:29

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