The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 5]

The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 5]

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franki68

10,476 posts

223 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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jammy_basturd said:
I agree with you BCM. Vardy isn't a big name star so therefore he's crap and is a one-trick pony.

I don't recall anyone saying Robin van Persie was passed it or that Ruud van Nistelrooy or Lineker were one-trick ponies (did either of them ever score outside the 6 yard area).

Take a look at this vid of every goal he scored last season if you think Vardy is crap. He has everything you'd want in an out-and-out striker. Headers from corners, good penalties, playing off the last defending, running past defenders, screamers for 30 yards out - everything.

Some people on here are either extremely ignorant or extremely arrogant.
I think you are confusing having a great season with being a great player .He had a tremendous season ,but that is not normal based on his record.Maybe he will go on and have another couple of great seasons .But there are many many other strikers out there who united fans would prefer to see. As Kane has been mentioned ...who would you rather have Kane or vardy...bearing in mind Kane roughly scored the same amount in 2 seasons that vardy had in 4 and Kane has his peak years ahead .
It's not arrogant ,or ignorant ,just a preference .

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

214 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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I'm not saying Utd should sign him, I'm just saying it's arrogant or ignorant to say he's just a one-trick pony or he's crap.

And I'm not sure you can say he's a one-season wonder either. In his last 7 seasons, he's scored more than 15 goals 4 times, more than 20 goals 3 times. His career goal rate is near enough 1 in 2.

Whether he stays at LCFC or goes to Arsenal my money would be on him to score more than 20 goals again this season.

chrisb92

1,051 posts

126 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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jammy_basturd said:
I'm not saying Utd should sign him, I'm just saying it's arrogant or ignorant to say he's just a one-trick pony or he's crap.

And I'm not sure you can say he's a one-season wonder either. In his last 7 seasons, he's scored more than 15 goals 4 times, more than 20 goals 3 times. His career goal rate is near enough 1 in 2.

Whether he stays at LCFC or goes to Arsenal my money would be on him to score more than 20 goals again this season.
2 seasons in the premier league. One was dreadful, one was decent. Let's reserve judgement. 24 goals is GOOD, not great.

Tuvra

7,921 posts

227 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Black can man said:
I remember everyone ejaculating over the Falcoa singing on here a couple of seasons ago.
I certainly wasn't. Falcao had come back from a serious injury, the kind of injury that can end a career or finish a player. Its not the same deal with Ibra is it?

Did anyone see the Wales game? He oozed class, like Dimitar Berbatov on 'roids and with a better work ethic. The confidence he inspired through the Swedish team was amazing to watch, they basically fell apart as soon as he went off....I for one am happy to have a talisman like that leading our youngsters to be honest, pound for pound I think Ibra is the best player we could possibly sign right now, if we can get 12 injury free months out of him I am sure he will be a massive, massive success.

Ibra & Bailly - yes please, RB and a CM next and I'll be happy Jose smile

Black can man

31,884 posts

170 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Harry Kane has just penned a new deal so it would have to be a big'un.



franki68

10,476 posts

223 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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jammy_basturd said:
I'm not saying Utd should sign him, I'm just saying it's arrogant or ignorant to say he's just a one-trick pony or he's crap.

And I'm not sure you can say he's a one-season wonder either. In his last 7 seasons, he's scored more than 15 goals 4 times, more than 20 goals 3 times. His career goal rate is near enough 1 in 2.

Whether he stays at LCFC or goes to Arsenal my money would be on him to score more than 20 goals again this season.
He is not craP obviously ,but a one season wonder ...His average for leicester in the seasons prior to this has him with a strike rate of 1 goal every 4 appearances ,he is at his peak for the next 2 years so I think he will do ok ,but playing for an arsenal or a united will be harder for him I think.we shall see.His ratio you refer to is highly skewered by his non league record and this season just gone .

The point is the vast majority of United fans are not particular to sign him for whatever reason .

Challo

10,340 posts

157 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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jammy_basturd said:
I'm not saying Utd should sign him, I'm just saying it's arrogant or ignorant to say he's just a one-trick pony or he's crap.

And I'm not sure you can say he's a one-season wonder either. In his last 7 seasons, he's scored more than 15 goals 4 times, more than 20 goals 3 times. His career goal rate is near enough 1 in 2.

Whether he stays at LCFC or goes to Arsenal my money would be on him to score more than 20 goals again this season.
As i said before Vardy has had an amazing season and rightly won a Premier League and also got caps for England. For me he has played well in a system of Leicester sucking up pressure and allowing Vardy to hit teams on the break and use his pace. He also had Marhez, Drinkwater, Kante and Albrighton being able to give him the chances to score from.

I dont think he is technically that good, and will be interesting to see how Arsenal play him. Remember if he played for United or Arsenal teams will naturally sit back and defend more. If there is no space behind will he be as prolific as last season? He is certainly not rubbish but I doubt he will be as good once he leaves Leicester.

ORD

18,120 posts

129 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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I would expect long odds on Vardy to score 20 or more goals for Arsenal. If not, I will put quite a lot of money on him not to do so. I would expect him to warm the bench.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

246 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Black can man said:
Harry Kane has just penned a new deal so it would have to be a big'un.
You sound worried.

lionelf

612 posts

102 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Alpinestars said:
Black can man said:
Harry Kane has just penned a new deal so it would have to be a big'un.
You sound worried.
Real Madrid showing interest would worry anyone as you know.

Black can man

31,884 posts

170 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Alpinestars said:
Black can man said:
Harry Kane has just penned a new deal so it would have to be a big'un.
You sound worried.
Yeah right laugh


anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Andre Gomes: "I'm not worried about what will happen after the Euros. I can only say that Jose Mourinho is a great coach." #MUFC

22 year old Valencia CM by all accounts. Can't say I know anything about him but he is signed to Mendes

bstb3

4,161 posts

160 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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anonymous said:
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He's probably missing the Neviller's too, bless him.

Have a feeling this is going to be a long summer rumour wise thumbup

Challo

10,340 posts

157 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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bstb3 said:
anonymous said:
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He's probably missing the Neviller's too, bless him.

Have a feeling this is going to be a long summer rumour wise thumbup
I take everything with a pinch of salt until it's confirmed by the club. We are linked with so many apparently it gets boring after a while

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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hehe

I think it will be a long summer, I am happy to stop posting rumours, I'm only really posting ones where there is a hint of substance but don't want to bore people smile

GTO-3R

7,542 posts

215 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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Ronnie is coming back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!










I've heard hehe

franki68

10,476 posts

223 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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snorky782 said:
Sorry, "everything" is just my experience based on prior year's amd what tends to happen, especially when Madrid come calling. New contract, just to bump up the price and a promise we will let them leave.

I think he'll go sadly.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/manchester-united-transfer-news-david-de-gea-to-stay-at-old-trafford-as-real-madrid-decide-not-to-a7067071.html

selym

9,548 posts

173 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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franki68 said:
snorky782 said:
Sorry, "everything" is just my experience based on prior year's amd what tends to happen, especially when Madrid come calling. New contract, just to bump up the price and a promise we will let them leave.

I think he'll go sadly.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/manchester-united-transfer-news-david-de-gea-to-stay-at-old-trafford-as-real-madrid-decide-not-to-a7067071.html
Well, the odds have shortened for who will win the Player of the Year next season.

snorky782

1,115 posts

101 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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franki68 said:
snorky782 said:
Sorry, "everything" is just my experience based on prior year's amd what tends to happen, especially when Madrid come calling. New contract, just to bump up the price and a promise we will let them leave.

I think he'll go sadly.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/manchester-united-transfer-news-david-de-gea-to-stay-at-old-trafford-as-real-madrid-decide-not-to-a7067071.html
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ibtimes.co.uk/real-madrid-reveal-keylor-navas-needs-surgery-amid-manchester-united-david-de-gea-transfer-saga-1563933?client=safari#

Only when he's not signed for RM can we say he's not signed for RM!

franki68

10,476 posts

223 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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snorky782 said:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ibtimes.co.uk/r...

Only when he's not signed for RM can we say he's not signed for RM!
true,but cheer up,Navas went for surgery because he wanted to be fully fit for Madrid next season rather than play in the copa america.

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