The Official Tottenham Hotspur Thread [Vol 6]

The Official Tottenham Hotspur Thread [Vol 6]

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ascayman

12,792 posts

218 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Might want to laminate your screen before reading this

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/aug/...


Asterix

24,438 posts

230 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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I think the posts following 70's prediction show that most of us, while cautiously confident that we're going to have a successful season, are well aware of our ability to self destruct - When we were 9-1 up against Wigan I still thought we had the ability to blow it hehe

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

151 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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If predictions weren't a mugs game, there'd be no bookies and there are a lot of bookies.

On AVB though, I always felt Tottenham was his last chance in English football. After the Chelsea debacle where imo he was sent in with a brief to clear out the old royalty only to have the rug pulled from under his feet by Abramovich, he needed to prove to the game that he can do it in England.

If he fails at Spurs, then I can't see him in the prem again.

Glassman

22,667 posts

217 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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JDFR said:
With the money we've spent, we have to achieve top 4 otherwise financially we should have taken the money from Bale and just settled for mid table mediocrity.
You do look to have completed an impressive looking jigsaw puzzle. I was talking to a chap who works behind the scenes at Tottenham. He's seen a few managers come and go over the years he's been there. He rates AVB as the best and most switched on by far.

£88mills - is that the Bale fee spent to the penny?

Asterix

24,438 posts

230 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Glassman said:
JDFR said:
With the money we've spent, we have to achieve top 4 otherwise financially we should have taken the money from Bale and just settled for mid table mediocrity.
You do look to have completed an impressive looking jigsaw puzzle. I was talking to a chap who works behind the scenes at Tottenham. He's seen a few managers come and go over the years he's been there. He rates AVB as the best and most switched on by far.

£88mills - is that the Bale fee spent to the penny?
I don't think it needs to be - I believe that even if we kept Bale, as it stands we're only around 40m down - which alone wouldn't be an unreasonable investment anyway.

Glassman

22,667 posts

217 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Asterix said:
I don't think it needs to be - I believe that even if we kept Bale, as it stands we're only around 40m down - which alone wouldn't be an unreasonable investment anyway.
A new stadium under construction and changes in how PL business is done to follow. We've been there and done that. Are we just better at keeping hold of our cash? Should be the other way around, Shirley!?

Asterix

24,438 posts

230 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Glassman said:
Asterix said:
I don't think it needs to be - I believe that even if we kept Bale, as it stands we're only around 40m down - which alone wouldn't be an unreasonable investment anyway.
A new stadium under construction and changes in how PL business is done to follow. We've been there and done that. Are we just better at keeping hold of our cash? Should be the other way around, Shirley!?
I think you're extremely good at holding on to your cash, at the detriment to strength - I don't see a long term plan on-pitch. Anymore of your starting 11 gets crocked and you really are in the pooh.

JDFR

1,219 posts

137 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Glassman said:
You do look to have completed an impressive looking jigsaw puzzle. I was talking to a chap who works behind the scenes at Tottenham. He's seen a few managers come and go over the years he's been there. He rates AVB as the best and most switched on by far.

£88mills - is that the Bale fee spent to the penny?
First half of the season AVB had no plan B and left it too late with subs to change the tempo/format of a game. He has progressed from his days at Porto (have a friend who supports them) and has become very astute for one so young.

Selling Bale has given him the money to build a complete squad which started way back with the purchase of Lloris.

£88m is probably what we will get for Bale. However we now have the wages of 7 odd new players instead of 1 superstar but we did also offload quite a few players.

Let's see what the season holds. Either way, I know everyone likes to say we are a small club but there is only one club the world has been talking about this transfer window and it's us.

COYS.

70proof

6,060 posts

157 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Glassman said:
I said previously to this comment that buying players doesn't necessarily guarantee success. The 70proof fella said "top four is easy" with your recent acquisitions.

As much of a shot to the arm your purchases are, I'm asking if such confidence is wise. You do appear to be doing a lot right, I'll give you that. How it pans out over a season is still a long way from realising. You do have a great tradition of bottling it...
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my confidence may be misplaced, but the specs i wear are rose tinted.....

seriously though, everyone bought in is better than what we had or it replaces, AVB is a good manager - we stopped shipping late goals last season and 'arry failed getting bale to play well cutting inside, so, if one isn't optimistic or deluded this season, well, then one will never be...

dare i say these purchases are almost like he early wenger/comolli years down the road....

Edited by 70proof on Thursday 29th August 13:47

Glassman

22,667 posts

217 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Asterix said:
Anymore of your starting 11 gets crocked and you really are in the pooh.
We already are. I do think the team is playing with a renewed sense of determination but it's far from comfortable. Chesney takes far too many risks; our defence can still get caught if we push up too high; Jenkinson has little confidence and always plays the safer pass, usually backwards; we still can't cross a decent ball and if and when we do, there's no fecker there to meet it; we have no pace on the left except for when Gibbs gets forward and these leaves us exposed... I could go on.

Ramsey's on form though.

And we've got Santi Cazorla.

scratchchin

Giroud is looking sharper, holds the ball up well and wins most headers.

Ummm....

We've got a big fking German.

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

151 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Glassman said:
Ummm....

We've got a big fking German.
Isn't he Danish & useless? hehe

Asterix

24,438 posts

230 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Glassman said:
Asterix said:
Anymore of your starting 11 gets crocked and you really are in the pooh.
We already are. I do think the team is playing with a renewed sense of determination but it's far from comfort. Chesney takes far too many risks; our defence can still get caught if we push up too high; Jenkinson has little confidence and always plays the safer pass, usually backwards; we still can't cross a decent ball and if and when we do, there's no fecker there to meet it; we have no pace on the left except for when Gibbs gets forward and these leaves us exposed... I could go on.

Ramsey's on form though.

And we've got Santi Cazorla.

:scratcchin:

Giroud is looking sharper, holds the ball up well and wins most headers.

Ummm....

We've got a big fking German.
My Dad's a Gooner btw so we do have some good chats about the state of affairs of both clubs and he's quite despondent at the moment. He reckons that you may hold station this season if you're lucky but that only depends on making a huge investment at the winter transfer session. If you have slipped from top 4/5 by Xmas, no one of any note is going to want to join you mid season.

His view.

70proof

6,060 posts

157 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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"It's a difficult situation for everyone involved," King, who retired after a 13-year career at White Hart Lane last year, told Sky Sports News.

"They've dealt with it well. The club always tries to deal with these things as professionally as possible. If you do lose players you have to replace them as best you can and the club have been brilliant at that.

"In the past they've always brought in new players and that's what the club will continue to do if they want to compete.

"They have been brilliant in the market though. I've seen Paulinho in his first few games and he's been brilliant. Soldado is a goalscorer and he knows how to find the back of the net.

"He was so calm with the penalty [against Swansea] and that was great to see. Etienne Capoue also looks brilliant. I didn't know too much about him but I've been very impressed with him.

"The future for Tottenham looks very good."

triffic.....

MrMagoo

3,208 posts

164 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Justin Cyder said:
Isn't he Danish & useless? hehe
yikes how dare you.

Mert is genuinely one of my favourite players at Arsenal. He's arguably the most important player too IMO. I'm more relaxed when he has the ball then anyone else on the pitch.

I love our BFG.

Glassman

22,667 posts

217 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Asterix said:
no one of any note is going to want to join you mid season.
At this rate, it wouldn't surprise me to see Denis Bergkamp's statue end up at the Amsterdam Arena instead of Emirates.

MrMagoo

3,208 posts

164 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Asterix said:
My Dad's a Gooner btw so we do have some good chats about the state of affairs of both clubs and he's quite despondent at the moment. He reckons that you may hold station this season if you're lucky but that only depends on making a huge investment at the winter transfer session. If you have slipped from top 4/5 by Xmas, no one of any note is going to want to join you mid season.

His view.
Your dads a gooner and you support spurs! Christ my dad would would disown me in an instant if I supported spurs hehe

Glassman

22,667 posts

217 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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MrMagoo said:
Your dads a gooner and you support spurs! Christ my dad would would disown me in an instant if I supported spurs hehe
I have two young sons. The eldest came back from a play date and said something about his mate and Tottenham.

RIGHT! New friends!

hehe

Blib

44,447 posts

199 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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MrMagoo said:
Asterix said:
My Dad's a Gooner btw so we do have some good chats about the state of affairs of both clubs and he's quite despondent at the moment. He reckons that you may hold station this season if you're lucky but that only depends on making a huge investment at the winter transfer session. If you have slipped from top 4/5 by Xmas, no one of any note is going to want to join you mid season.

His view.
Your dads a gooner and you support spurs! Christ my dad would would disown me in an instant if I supported spurs hehe
My mum, who was a Spurs season ticket holder, agreed to marry my dad so long as he switched allegiance from Arsenal to Spurs and agree to bring any kids up as Spuds.

True that.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

ascayman

12,792 posts

218 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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MrMagoo said:
Your dads a gooner and you support spurs! Christ my dad would would disown me in an instant if I supported spurs hehe
You cant choose your parents.

MrMagoo

3,208 posts

164 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Glassman said:
I have two young sons. The eldest came back from a play date and said something about his mate and Tottenham.

RIGHT! New friends!

hehe
laugh that's exactly how my dad would have reacted.

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