The Official ENGLAND Thread - The Team We ALL Support

[BlackST]

London424 said:

Justin Cyder said:

I would sooner take a one legged Ox than Cleverley.

If it's looking more like 3 weeks I'd call up Stones and sort out the right back area.

Stones can't play RB. He got turned inside out when he played us (Liverpool)
He seems to get a lot of praise from all the Evertonians I know though, they practically love him and think of him as their future skipper but I haven't seen much of him.

[London424]

BlackST said:

London424 said:

Justin Cyder said:

I would sooner take a one legged Ox than Cleverley.

If it's looking more like 3 weeks I'd call up Stones and sort out the right back area.

Stones can't play RB. He got turned inside out when he played us (Liverpool)
He seems to get a lot of praise from all the Evertonians I know though, they practically love him and think of him as their future skipper but I haven't seen much of him.

I'd rather have someone capable of defending than watch Johnson or Milner who got shown up against Peru and Ecuador.

[Legend83]

Flanagan? An actual right-back.

[uk66fastback]

Barkley HAS to start for me - far more than Wheelchair. He was played out of position maybe but he's simply not strong enough on the ball for me. Being SO one footed just cuts his options as well.

[London424]

Legend83 said:

Flanagan? An actual right-back.

It's a strange one...if he doesn't start ahead of Johnson for his club...should he be starting ahead of him for his country?

I hold my hands up and say I've not seen Flanagan play (maybe the odd appearance but nothing to remember).

[uk66fastback]

London424 said:

I'd rather have someone capable of defending than watch Johnson or Milner who got shown up against Peru and Ecuador.

Remember The Neville is out there

[Legend83]

London424 said:

It's a strange one...if he doesn't start ahead of Johnson for his club...should he be starting ahead of him for his country?

I hold my hands up and say I've not seen Flanagan play (maybe the odd appearance but nothing to remember).

A dilemma indeed but I think Liverpool fans would rather see Flanagan fighting Johnson for that RB birth instead of covering LB for the crocked Enrique.

I would at least like to see him in the squad to a) put more pressure on Johnson to perform or b) take his place when he inevitably has a mare.

[Challo]

Legend83 said:

London424 said:

It's a strange one...if he doesn't start ahead of Johnson for his club...should he be starting ahead of him for his country?

I hold my hands up and say I've not seen Flanagan play (maybe the odd appearance but nothing to remember).

A dilemma indeed but I think Liverpool fans would rather see Flanagan fighting Johnson for that RB birth instead of covering LB for the crocked Enrique.

I would at least like to see him in the squad to a) put more pressure on Johnson to perform or b) take his place when he inevitably has a mare.

Not ideal but I would bring up Flanagan instead of Stones. At least he is a true RB not a centreback covering. Stones would get crucified at international level.

[Black can man]

BlackST said:

London424 said:

Justin Cyder said:

I would sooner take a one legged Ox than Cleverley.

If it's looking more like 3 weeks I'd call up Stones and sort out the right back area.

Stones can't play RB. He got turned inside out when he played us (Liverpool)
He seems to get a lot of praise from all the Evertonians I know though, they practically love him and think of him as their future skipper but I haven't seen much of him.

Bloody Kyle Walker eh, going to be sorely missed it seems.

[ascayman]

Black can man said:

Bloody Kyle Walker eh, going to be sorely missed it seems.

huge loss.

[markh1973]

ascayman said:

Black can man said:

Bloody Kyle Walker eh, going to be sorely missed it seems.

huge loss.

Maybe next World Cup he can show the world his speed when he inevitably gets caught out

Although by then Flanagan should have played enough at right back to save us all from having to watch that

[Adam B]

Ayahuasca said:

CIE560 said:

According to Ian Wright Rooney will be brimming with confidence after his tap in off the post a couple of yards from the goal.

It can only be good for England.

What? My granny could have scored that goal.

And then scored with Rooney

Did someone tell Wilshere he was Vinny Jones, stupid reaction at the Sterling Valencia incident

Shame the Milner experiment didn't work and we are stuck with a very off form Johnson

[uk66fastback]

Would it be worth Woy wisking Smalling in the RB position or will he play Magic Johnson and Milner on the right to track back and cover him?

I guess he might have played Smalling at RB against Equador if he were to do that ... maybe he will against Honduras. Smalling has played at RB for MU a lot of the season since Rafael was injured ... not with massive success but he hasn't been *that bad*

[mattyn1]

After watching the England's Worst XI a day or so before Smalling reminded me of Carlton Palmer !

[ascayman]

mattyn1 said:

After watching the England's Worst XI a day or so before Smalling reminded me of Carlton Palmer !

He wasn't that good..

Right back is a huge problem. Jones can play there?

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Adam B said:

Did someone tell Wilshere he was Vinny Jones, stupid reaction at the Sterling Valencia incident

That was the quickest he moved all night, when he thought there might be a punch up. Charging over all snarling and looking to get involved, he's a total knob.

[Challo]

uk66fastback said:

Would it be worth Woy wisking Smalling in the RB position or will he play Magic Johnson and Milner on the right to track back and cover him?

I guess he might have played Smalling at RB against Equador if he were to do that ... maybe he will against Honduras. Smalling has played at RB for MU a lot of the season since Rafael was injured ... not with massive success but he hasn't been *that bad*

Jones would be slightly better at RB, but only slightly better. Playing him or Smalling does give you more strength in a defensive sense but they are both poor attacking wise, and cannot cross for toffee.

Johnson gives more going forward but rubbish defensively.

[Adam B]

Challo said:

Johnson gives more going forward but rubbish defensively.

I would have agreed with you pre-injury but right now he seems less assured when attacking , and cannot even pass to a team mate, despite his inexperience I would call up Flanagan who had an excellent season and will grace the WC with his good looks

[T66ORA]

For those of you who ain`t been following Ross Barkley that closely, this is what the lad is capable of. He needs to be a bit more consistent, his tackling is near on none existent now after his double leg break, which threatened to end his career. So don`t expect him to be diving into tackles.
This World cup may have come to soon for him, don`t forget if Moyes was still Everton manager he would have spent another season out on loan, in the championship, sorting out his defensive side.
Martinez just lets the lad play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0rJ7xb7iis

[ascayman]

T66ORA said:

For those of you who ain`t been following Ross Barkley that closely, this is what the lad is capable of. He needs to be a bit more consistent, his tackling is near on none existent now after his double leg break, which threatened to end his career. So don`t expect him to be diving into tackles.
This World cup may have come to soon for him, don`t forget if Moyes was still Everton manager he would have spent another season out on loan, in the championship, sorting out his defensive side.
Martinez just lets the lad play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0rJ7xb7iis

He's the most exciting talent in English football for me. If I was a club chairman id be offering everton a blank cheque for his services.