The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 9]

[Cie]

DSLiverpool said:

Do we all agree now Raja was right a year ago or more and Rogers was winging it as a lucky manager ?

Do we all agree it's time for a new chief knobhead ?

RT should be throwing out the "I told you so" cards around here, nobody would admit he (and you got a bit of stick too I think?) was right though I'd guess.

I think the talk of Klopp is a bit ambitious, I just can't see it. Who knows.

[cerb4.5lee]

DSLiverpool said:

Do we all agree now Raja was right a year ago or more and Rogers was winging it as a lucky manager ?

Do we all agree it's time for a new chief knobhead ?

Agree and I never rated BR in the first place yet I did eventually give him the benefit of the doubt but I think that has been misjudged by me and he clearly isn't a winner as I thought in the first place but everyone needs a chance...he just hasn't took his.

[ExV8]

No, explain the fantastic run that got us back into contention - what was that?

The number of losses in a row are a more of a concern. If we had won half the last few games most on here would not have any issue - FACT.

Having a bad start, sorting it out is fine but hitting a losing streak at the end of the season does suggest something may not be quite right.

50/50 on being around next year depending on results. End the season the same as it started and bye bye.

[Kaj91]

That's second place gone now.

[anonymous-user]

DSLiverpool said:

Do we all agree now Raja was right a year ago or more and Rogers was winging it as a lucky manager ?

Do we all agree it's time for a new chief knobhead ?

My issue is not what he says, but the way he says it.

Rodgers has been 'unlucky' this year as he lost Suarez AND Sturridge.

And being unlucky is well... just very unlucky.

My main point remains, we spent the 5th amount on wages. That is the proven barometer of success in this league. We are performing to that level... and it's rubbish and it has been so for 25 years.

Winning the league is all that matters and we are 70 million a year away from that.

[BlackST]

Kaj91 said:

That's second place gone now.

Next year will be our year

[RedTrident]

Lovely to see that even when I don't post some superfan feels it's ok to call me a wker.

Then of course the double standards with the name calling of Mario. My my my...

Bodge is clueless and the players have stopped playing for him. His time with us is thankfully at an end. 3 seasons in and he doesn't even know the style of football he wants us to play nevermind the formation and players.

Good riddance.

[anonymous-user]

RedTrident said:

Lovely to see that even when I don't post some superfan feels it's ok to call me a wker.

Then of course the double standards with the name calling of Mario. My my my...

Bodge is clueless and the players have stopped playing for him. His time with us is thankfully at an end. 3 seasons in and he doesn't even know the style of football he wants us to play nevermind the formation and players.

Good riddance.

Who called you a wker this time?

[MGJohn]

In the words of Jimmy Greaves.... Funny old game Saint.

Sure is... All hail the "Sack the Manager Premiership".

Now for something completely different.

Looking on the positive side of life, for some, nice to see Steve Bruce's luck take a sudden turn for the better the past two games.

If any manager of a struggling Premiership team deserves a change of luck for the better, it's Steve Bruce and Hull...

It's an ill wind and all that ...

[RWD cossie wil]

desolate said:

DSLiverpool said:

Do we all agree now Raja was right a year ago or more and Rogers was winging it as a lucky manager ?

Do we all agree it's time for a new chief knobhead ?

My issue is not what he says, but the way he says it.

Rodgers has been 'unlucky' this year as he lost Suarez AND Sturridge.

And being unlucky is well... just very unlucky.

My main point remains, we spent the 5th amount on wages. That is the proven barometer of success in this league. We are performing to that level... and it's rubbish and it has been so for 25 years.

Winning the league is all that matters and we are 70 million a year away from that.

Not really surprised at the result, not seen the game or any highlights so don't know what the performance was like. Have to say it's bad when we are all expecting to be beaten by Hull, notwithstanding the fact they are playing out of their skin for premier league survival.

Despite the doom & gloom, I still think we have a decent team hidden in there somewhere, but we are desperate for some striking options, it reflects on the entire team when there is no natural frontman on the pitch.

God only knows what Lambert has done to be denied a start when we are berefit of striking options, I thought it was a blinding bit of business picking up a quality PL proven striker for 4m, especially one who wants to play for his hometown club!!! He must be screwing watching Balotelli getting game after game just standing still on the pitch... Crazy.

[Pommygranite]

I don't think RT has ever come on here and admitted when he was wrong so unsure why there's a clamour to say he was right. Is he going to come on admit he was wrong about Ex managers and some of the current players? No of course not and not worth beating some form of 'I told you so drum'

I'd be a lot more contrite if he actually put his point across in a less dickish, crass and disrespectful manner.

I don't think many would disagree we certainly aren't where we should be but regardless of BR some of players simply haven't played well and we've been hammered by injuries.

A bit of balance is needed as I certainly don't think our entire season has failed because of BR and BR alone.

[RWD cossie wil]

Pommygranite said:

I don't think RT has ever come on here and admitted when he was wrong so unsure why there's a clamour to say he was right. Is he going to come on admit he was wrong about Ex managers and some of the current players? No of course not and not worth beating some form of 'I told you so drum'

I'd be a lot more contrite if he actually put his point across in a less dickish, crass and disrespectful manner.

I don't think many would disagree we certainly aren't where we should be but regardless of BR some of players simply haven't played well and we've been hammered by injuries.

A bit of balance is needed as I certainly don't think our entire season has failed because of BR and BR alone.

Way I see it is our striker problem has been our stumbling block, much in the way that no matter how good your cars chassis is, if the engine isn't making the power then you are never going to win races.....

We have had a lot of engine trouble this season, as said you can't simply take out 50 goals & expect to be at the same level. I really do think we have a pretty decent squad now, ok a couple of strikers & a heavy duty midfielder would be ideal additions, so let's see where the Summer takes us.

Stability & growth is what we need......

[Boozy]

You've done a Spurs and spent a shed load of money on average/good players to try replace someone who could change games in a second, that mixed with a manager who's being found out has cost you (literally). As an outsider the way he's treated Gerard who's given everything to your club, the Chelsea wobble aside is a disgrace. I'm a United fan so hardly a huge supporter of Liverpool or Gerard but it still amazes me how Brenda spoke about him tonight.

[Scousefella]

RedTrident said:

Lovely to see that even when I don't post some superfan feels it's ok to call me a wker.

Then of course the double standards with the name calling of Mario. My my my...

FFS fella get off the high horse and go and grab yourself a sense of humour.

[type-r]

I got gunned down here when we were winning and I suggested that the performances were just papering over the cracks. We were scraping wins in some games. Now it is amusing reading all the comments about just how sh!t we really are. Too many people drunk off the badge only now sobering up as the cold light of day finally dawns. Realisation is a b!tch.

The whole season was a failure before a ball was even kicked. Signing the quantity of average players was the nail in the coffin. Getting CL football should have been the stepping stone to bring in the 3 quality players we needed to BUILD FOR THE FUTURE and move forward. I am talking top players - the Fabregas's and the Sanchez's - the old addage still rings true, you get what you pay for, oh wait, buy cheap, buy twice, no wait, you pay peanuts you get....

FSG need a root and branch review of everything. The manager, the way transfers are handled and the seeming reluctance to pay top wages for the best players which in turn limits the transfers.

[RedTrident]

Scousefella said:

RedTrident said:

Lovely to see that even when I don't post some superfan feels it's ok to call me a wker.

Then of course the double standards with the name calling of Mario. My my my...

FFS fella get off the high horse and go and grab yourself a sense of humour.

Nothing to do with a sense of humour. The outcry when I described him as Big Watch Bodge. That was a sense of humour!

The man's a fraud and I have little sympathy for those who just keep on blindly backing him.

Edited by RedTrident on Wednesday 29th April 08:18

[epom]

A stopped clock is right twice a day.
BR will be with us next year whether we like it or not.

[NRS]

type-r said:

I got gunned down here when we were winning and I suggested that the performances were just papering over the cracks. We were scraping wins in some games. Now it is amusing reading all the comments about just how sh!t we really are. Too many people drunk off the badge only now sobering up as the cold light of day finally dawns. Realisation is a b!tch.

The whole season was a failure before a ball was even kicked. Signing the quantity of average players was the nail in the coffin. Getting CL football should have been the stepping stone to bring in the 3 quality players we needed to BUILD FOR THE FUTURE and move forward. I am talking top players - the Fabregas's and the Sanchez's - the old addage still rings true, you get what you pay for, oh wait, buy cheap, buy twice, no wait, you pay peanuts you get....

FSG need a root and branch review of everything. The manager, the way transfers are handled and the seeming reluctance to pay top wages for the best players which in turn limits the transfers.

I don't think many people were saying the team was doing "well" when we were winning. Yes, we were winning but it wasn't convincing. However considering the complete lack of any strikers and how crap the defense had been earlier in the season it was good that we got some results (and some good defensive stats). I think a lot of the reason for such different "moods" after games is that different people are posting, one group when doing well, one group when doing badly.

The problem with 3 quality players is that you would have to buy at least 6 to get the normal success rate of at least 3 of them working. 6x£30M is £180M, plus adding on much higher wages for them and we cannot afford it (much less be ok with Fair Play rules). Not to mention one of the issues this season is players keep coming in and out of the squad due to injuries. If we only had a few extra players we wouldn't have had any depth to the squad (last season we got lucky as our 2nd squad was worse than this season, but we had so few injury problems we never really needed to use them.

If you consider the lack of goals this season compared to last then I think if we had one decent striker who was able to play regularly we probably would have been up there in 4th or better. Not only would we have more goals, but we probably would have a squad who would have played better as the whole team would have worked more with movement up front. As it is now we have a team set up for attack with technical skills but nowhere to go because we have a person who holds up the ball instead (Balo) or someone who is quick but doesn't have an eye for goal (Sterling).

I can't see us getting many more points this season, as too many players don't care because they're leaving or too many don't care about league position if they don't get CL place (which they have obviously given up hope for). It's not just our team, you see it a lot - it's why teams fighting for relegation often get shock results at the end of a season, as the teams who are not fighting for the League at the top don't tend to care as long as they get CL football. But I think if we get a decent striker this squad could improve a lot next season. If not then we'll be in the same place next year.

Scousefella said:

RedTrident said:

Lovely to see that even when I don't post some superfan feels it's ok to call me a wker.

Then of course the double standards with the name calling of Mario. My my my...

FFS fella get off the high horse and go and grab yourself a sense of humour.

Well, calling someone names like Bodge is different from calling RT names, isn't it?

[Cheib]

I think Liverpool should have looked at Spurs and learnt that you can't go and replace one out and out World Class player with half a dozen players.....integrating that many players in one season just doesn't seem to work. Whether you are Liverpool in the Top 6 or QPR in the Bottom 6. I honestly can't think of a team ever buying that many players and the next season having a great year. That said Liverpool seem better than most at buying badly...the Balotelli transfer was a farce.

[SydneyBridge]

It sounded like Sterling had a mare last night but that Couithino had a superb game and was crying out for a decent, intelligent, speedy striker to get on the end of his passes. He drew 3 defenders away from Sterling at one point, only for Sterling to have a crap shot straight at the goalie.
Don't know if all the contract stuff is getting to him, but he needs to sort it out asap and do what he is being paid to do, and get some shooting practice over the summer.

Don't know how Lambert was when he came on, but surely he deserves to play for the last 4 games, with the carrot of staying next season. Mario is not what we want or need