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Pupp said:
Well, they’re now in touch with their femme side at least…
https://apple.news/A6rkzW25yQF6crjzG_lG-Iw
Quite obviously a reflection of pink interior lighting on the cabin window layers.https://apple.news/A6rkzW25yQF6crjzG_lG-Iw
duckson said:
Latest episode of Weaponized is out spending a fair amount of time talking about the ‘Jellyfish’ UAP and interviewing one of the guys who was on base after the incident.
There is also another video of it but it’s at a greater distance so nothing new.
Few take aways are that the ‘something on the lense’ explanation is debunked as the thing is spinning slightly on its own axis (when you’ve zoomed right into it).
The system was unable to get a lock onto it so unlikely to be mere ‘balloons’.
When it was initially seen and recorded there was some personnel who turned up and took the recording (on disc) away, apparently this hadn’t happened before. Also the staff had to sign another NDA even though they had already signed one for being at the base (or that might of just been in general in the past as standard practice ie being a serving military employee), I don’t recall exactly).
More "I was told" and "apparently"...... Load of sThere is also another video of it but it’s at a greater distance so nothing new.
Few take aways are that the ‘something on the lense’ explanation is debunked as the thing is spinning slightly on its own axis (when you’ve zoomed right into it).
The system was unable to get a lock onto it so unlikely to be mere ‘balloons’.
When it was initially seen and recorded there was some personnel who turned up and took the recording (on disc) away, apparently this hadn’t happened before. Also the staff had to sign another NDA even though they had already signed one for being at the base (or that might of just been in general in the past as standard practice ie being a serving military employee), I don’t recall exactly).
te shakotan said:
Pupp said:
Well, they’re now in touch with their femme side at least…
https://apple.news/A6rkzW25yQF6crjzG_lG-Iw
Quite obviously a reflection of pink interior lighting on the cabin window layers.https://apple.news/A6rkzW25yQF6crjzG_lG-Iw
More likly to be a laptop with a lighted ring in the lid than interior light though, would explain why the stewerdess couldent see the source if it was facing the window.
tuscaneer said:
duckson said:
I think you need to add the word 'apparently' to everything in this thread! 
I was initially of the understanding the people commentating had actually seen the documentary, guess not.
What strikes me the most with this subject is the momentum that has gathered in the last 6 months, US Congress and Senate seemingly pulling in the same direction (well a numner of members from either side of the divide) and there is no smoke without fire! Interesting 2024 coming up.
I'll not wait with baited breath. Of course it would be very interesting if there was some big reveal but that's not happeningI was initially of the understanding the people commentating had actually seen the documentary, guess not.
What strikes me the most with this subject is the momentum that has gathered in the last 6 months, US Congress and Senate seemingly pulling in the same direction (well a numner of members from either side of the divide) and there is no smoke without fire! Interesting 2024 coming up.
ks imo.The reality is if “they’re here” then they are, have been a while, and largely are passive to human civilisation. And nothing changes.
Or it’s all bollicks, so nothing changes.
But in the meantime it’s awesome pantomime to keep people worrying about nonsense instead of the dire state of their stupid government.
We'd be foolish to think that intelligent life forms don't exist elsewhere. There's a host of things unexplained in our own human past from the civilizations that have no written record when it stretches back hundreds of thousands of years. Maybe they visited way back and have since died out themselves?
I don't think anyone can be completely dismissive of the fact but it does seem that so many "claims of seeing ET" are simply hoaxes and footage is designed to be poor to create interest.
I don't think anyone can be completely dismissive of the fact but it does seem that so many "claims of seeing ET" are simply hoaxes and footage is designed to be poor to create interest.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/27/sean...
Wonder what the resident conspiracy nuts on this thread will make of this…
Wonder what the resident conspiracy nuts on this thread will make of this…
Skeptisk said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/27/sean...
Wonder what the resident conspiracy nuts on this thread will make of this…
Just picking one but what about Fravor's (and the 3 pilots) tic-tac encounter? Radar data and the human eyeball matching up so no 'parallex' anomaly there. I'm sure there are plenty of radar anomalies that are just that but when events are backed up with a real view of the object it must (you would of thought) actually exist to cause the reflection.Wonder what the resident conspiracy nuts on this thread will make of this…
Grusch has stated he has first hand knowledge (we dont know what).
AARO seems like Project Blue Book 2.0 to me (thought that even before this article).
thegreenhell said:
He says that 90% of reported sightings have a logical explanation, which must mean that 10% don't.
He didn’t say they were aliens. He said:Most of the times when we can’t give an explanation, it is because there is a lack of data, and by that I mean consistent, solid, recorded data that you can put into a computer and you can do analysis on.”
Even so, Kirkpatrick said, there are those unlikely to ever accept scientific explanations.
“There is absolutely nothing that I’m going to do, say or produce evidentially that is going to make the true believers convert,” he said.
“It is basically a religion, a religious belief that transcends critical thinking and rational thought.”
Skeptisk said:
He didn’t say they were aliens. He said:
Most of the times when we can’t give an explanation, it is because there is a lack of data, and by that I mean consistent, solid, recorded data that you can put into a computer and you can do analysis on.”
Even so, Kirkpatrick said, there are those unlikely to ever accept scientific explanations.
“There is absolutely nothing that I’m going to do, say or produce evidentially that is going to make the true believers convert,” he said.
“It is basically a religion, a religious belief that transcends critical thinking and rational thought.”
Of course it's going to be very difficult to scientifically measure something like this, especially as our understanding of science is in it's infancy. This does not mean it's a conspiracy theory or untrue.Most of the times when we can’t give an explanation, it is because there is a lack of data, and by that I mean consistent, solid, recorded data that you can put into a computer and you can do analysis on.”
Even so, Kirkpatrick said, there are those unlikely to ever accept scientific explanations.
“There is absolutely nothing that I’m going to do, say or produce evidentially that is going to make the true believers convert,” he said.
“It is basically a religion, a religious belief that transcends critical thinking and rational thought.”
zek said:
Skeptisk said:
He didn’t say they were aliens. He said:
Most of the times when we can’t give an explanation, it is because there is a lack of data, and by that I mean consistent, solid, recorded data that you can put into a computer and you can do analysis on.”
Even so, Kirkpatrick said, there are those unlikely to ever accept scientific explanations.
“There is absolutely nothing that I’m going to do, say or produce evidentially that is going to make the true believers convert,” he said.
“It is basically a religion, a religious belief that transcends critical thinking and rational thought.”
Of course it's going to be very difficult to scientifically measure something like this, especially as our understanding of science is in it's infancy. This does not mean it's a conspiracy theory or untrue.Most of the times when we can’t give an explanation, it is because there is a lack of data, and by that I mean consistent, solid, recorded data that you can put into a computer and you can do analysis on.”
Even so, Kirkpatrick said, there are those unlikely to ever accept scientific explanations.
“There is absolutely nothing that I’m going to do, say or produce evidentially that is going to make the true believers convert,” he said.
“It is basically a religion, a religious belief that transcends critical thinking and rational thought.”
Our understanding of science is in its infancy? What makes you able to make them that judgement?
Skeptisk said:
Our understanding of science is in its infancy? What makes you able to make them that judgement?
Whilst it has nothing to do with aliens, it's a falrly reasonable judgement. It's possible, likely even, that in a hundred or two years our scientific understanding today will look medieval.QJumper said:
Skeptisk said:
Our understanding of science is in its infancy? What makes you able to make them that judgement?
Whilst it has nothing to do with aliens, it's a falrly reasonable judgement. It's possible, likely even, that in a hundred or two years our scientific understanding today will look medieval.Skeptisk said:
Rather that just write that, could you provide some justification for your statement?
The justification being that traditionally scientific advancement has been exponential. It's therefore reasonable to assume that our scientific understanding will have grown substantially in a couple of hundred years, and even more so in a couple of thousand.If one make the assumption that human civilisation will last at least a few thousand year or more, then it's therefore not unreasoable to posit that scientific understanding is in its infancy.
Doesn't make it fact to say so, but it's not an unreasonable suggestion.
Modern science as we know it has only been around a few hundred years at most, and scientists are learning new stuff every day. There was a time when we thought we knew everything, but the more we have learned the more we realise we don't know. There are still fundamental questions about the universe, time, gravity and quantum physics to name a few that we still cannot answer. We've barely left the surface of our own planet, and we're still burning fossilised trees for power. If there are any space-faring aliens out there then we must look quite primitive to them.
thegreenhell said:
Modern science as we know it has only been around a few hundred years at most, and scientists are learning new stuff every day. There was a time when we thought we knew everything, but the more we have learned the more we realise we don't know. There are still fundamental questions about the universe, time, gravity and quantum physics to name a few that we still cannot answer. We've barely left the surface of our own planet, and we're still burning fossilised trees for power. If there are any space-faring aliens out there then we must look quite primitive to them.
Of course we do, we're in their simulation. 
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