Voyager 2 gone for good?

Voyager 2 gone for good?

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Flooble

5,565 posts

101 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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I fear that before any successful sustainable colonies off-world can be created, civilisation will collapse in on itself as situations such as this cease to be comedy but become reality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh3Yz3PiXZw

Mr Pointy

11,338 posts

160 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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Eric Mc said:
Mr Pointy said:
It isn't - it's accurate. Everything out there is inhospitable to our bodies. We can't stand the radiation. Lack of gravity ruins our bones & eyesight. We can't carry enough fuel to get off Mars if we do land there. We die before we've travelled more than 80 years. The lunar dust is horrendously abrasive & destroys our lungs.

We're adapted to live in a temperate environment with a protective atmosphere & magnetic shield.

There's no point going to the Moon or Mars as there's nothing there - we can't expand our colonies to live there freely without protective suits.

That's without Putin lobbing nukes or the certainty of an extinction-level asteroid event. You can't argue with statistics - an asteriod is coming for us.

Anyway, that's all wildy off topic. Let's hope Voyager calls home soon.
We ARE going back to the moon - whether you think it's a good idea or not. And if governments don't fund it - someone else will. THAT is what I was referring to. There are at least three manned lunar programmes in various states of progress at the moment.
But what for? We can't even put up a commonly-agreed replacement for the space station & that's just a few miles overhead. That costs peanuts compared to a base on the Moon.

Simpo Two

85,801 posts

266 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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Mr Pointy said:
There's no point going to the Moon or Mars as there's nothing there - we can't expand our colonies to live there freely without protective suits.
Much like the summit of Everest or the South Pole, but people go there.

We've assumed for decades that there are alien civilisations out there zooming about the galaxy in spaceships - but maybe there aren't, because they couldn't be arsed...!

Eric Mc

122,183 posts

266 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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Mr Pointy said:
But what for? We can't even put up a commonly-agreed replacement for the space station & that's just a few miles overhead. That costs peanuts compared to a base on the Moon.
Who cares. Some people are doing it anyway. Let's sit back and enjoy the adventure.

lrdisco

1,458 posts

88 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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Eric Mc said:
Mr Pointy said:
But what for? We can't even put up a commonly-agreed replacement for the space station & that's just a few miles overhead. That costs peanuts compared to a base on the Moon.
Who cares. Some people are doing it anyway. Let's sit back and enjoy the adventure.
I don’t remember the full quote but it’s something along the lines of- We go to the moon not because it’s easy but because it’s hard.
Humankind needs to push on and out.

louiechevy

646 posts

194 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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lrdisco said:
Eric Mc said:
Mr Pointy said:
But what for? We can't even put up a commonly-agreed replacement for the space station & that's just a few miles overhead. That costs peanuts compared to a base on the Moon.
Who cares. Some people are doing it anyway. Let's sit back and enjoy the adventure.
I don’t remember the full quote but it’s something along the lines of- We go to the moon not because it’s easy but because it’s hard.
Humankind needs to push on and out.
I watched a documentary a few years ago about various companies plans to exploit the moons resources and one of them basically said we choose not to go to the moon because its hard but because its profitable.

Simpo Two

85,801 posts

266 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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louiechevy said:
I watched a documentary a few years ago about various companies plans to exploit the moons resources and one of them basically said we choose not to go to the moon because its hard but because its profitable.
Makes perfect sense. Once the national pride of exploration/achievement is over, it has to make financial sense because then corporations take over.

glazbagun

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14,299 posts

198 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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Eric Mc

122,183 posts

266 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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It's hard to keep a good space probe down.

46and2

768 posts

34 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Zetec-S said:
(Or more cynically, you arrive to find the planet ravaged by war after a split between the colonists who beat you there)
Sky's Edge, 61 Cygni A

Edited by 46and2 on Tuesday 15th August 20:59

glazbagun

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14,299 posts

198 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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46and2 said:
Zetec-S said:
(Or more cynically, you arrive to find the planet ravaged by war after a split between the colonists who beat you there)
Sky's Edge, 61 Cygni A
Knew that was Reynolds but still had to look it up. 2002. Man, I'm getting old.