Glamping; what would you want?

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227bhp

10,203 posts

130 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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A room with a free bar, fully equipped bathroom, 5* restaraunt, kingsize bed and valet parking.

Hilts

4,402 posts

284 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Vaud said:
Ideally - nearby: a farm shop for provisions or daily bread delivery
How about a small on-site bakery?

I stayed in a camp-site in Amsterdam that had one, very popular. Baguettes straight from the oven. yum

bingybongy

3,887 posts

148 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Japveesix said:
bingybongy said:
A decent shower
A decent bog
No fking dogs
That's it really.
I'm not sure poetry is for you really.
Oh, it took me ages as well.

hyphen

26,262 posts

92 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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Private shower per tent/booking group.
Private loo

Are minimum of what would convince me to pay a more premium price.

bloomen

6,991 posts

161 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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Have a price that's actually realistic. You can stay in a pretty decent hotel for the cost of some of those places.

hyphen

26,262 posts

92 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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bloomen said:
Have a price that's actually realistic. You can stay in a pretty decent hotel for the cost of some of those places.
Is that the actual competition though?

It is a different experience, camping is done as kids love it, and you want to be closer to the soil/nature/outdoors. You wouldn't go camping/glamping if you actually wanted a hotel experience as they are two different things.

James_B

12,642 posts

259 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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bloomen said:
Have a price that's actually realistic. You can stay in a pretty decent hotel for the cost of some of those places.
A lot of them seem to cost more per night than the beautiful boutique hotel that we use when visiting the in-laws.

It's probably why so many people are setting them up.

alorotom

11,981 posts

189 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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Hilts said:
How about a small on-site bakery?

I stayed in a camp-site in Amsterdam that had one, very popular. Baguettes straight from the oven. yum
Quite popular in France as well and def a winner imho

Also we stayed at one previously that had hot tubs next to the yurt under wooden gazebos which was nice

AdeTuono

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7,277 posts

229 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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Thanks for the comments guys. All taken on board.

Regarding dogs; a difficult one, and I have dogs myself. A friend does Air B&B, and is dog-friendly. Last guest's dog decided to eat wallpaper and skirting boards. I know that a Romany van/yurt/teepee doesn't have either of those, but damage could happen. There is also the issue of possible barking, and the reliance on the owner to clean up after the dog. It wouldn't be possible to vet either the owner or the dog itself when booking. I can't help feeling that we'd be importing problems that are easily avoided, even if it does somewhat limit our market.

We'll not be doing this to make vast amounts of money, nor will we be relying on it to provide an income. Obviously we'll need to cover costs, but it's more something to do to keep us occupied. I'm lucky enough to have pretty much retired, and whilst I'm never bored, it would be nice to have something to focus on. The daily cost will be pitched to keep it affordable. I don't subscribe to increasing prices just because it's school summer holidays; there'll be no premium. The 'adults only' idea seems to be worth pursuing, so long as it doesn't attract people who think it's a passport to open-air shagging!

So far as site shopping goes, whilst the idea of a bakery or somesuch sounds good, but we're only looking at maybe half a dozen pitches, so don't think it would be either sustainable or financially viable. My wife, though, is keen to provide hampers for breakfast. This is something that a hotel we recently stayed at in Whitby did, and it was so much better than traipsing down to a dining room for breakfast.

Facility-wise, we'd look to provide toilets specific to each pitch, as well as somewhere to shower. Anything within the accommodation would be high-quality and freshly laundered. A central fire-pit, as well as individual BBQ's would be nice to have as well.

WRT to space, as said, we'd only want half a dozen pitches over an acre, so plenty of scope for privacy. We have yet to locate a suitable site. We'll have our house on site, but if we can find somewhere set in 7-8 acres then we won't intrude on the glamping space, nor would they intrude on ours. Hoping to remain in Norfolk/Suffolk; any pointers on location, eg proximity to local towns/pubs? Part of me thinks keep it remote, but another part says we need to be closer to civilisation.

Again, appreciating the comments...

Plate spinner

17,778 posts

202 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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I'm a man of simple tastes - a must have for any tenting IMO is a fire pit.

Took the kids camping and on one occasion it turns out we're on a 'no open fires' site. Properly rubbish.
If I'm not sitting out after dark around a fire, chatting away with some food and drinks until the flames die down, then we may as well have booked a hotel room.

hyphen

26,262 posts

92 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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anonymous said:
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No thanks.

anonymous said:
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hehe

Edited by hyphen on Saturday 29th July 13:53

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

188 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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Japveesix said:
bingybongy said:
A decent shower
A decent bog
No fking dogs
That's it really.
I'm not sure poetry is for you really.
If you'd allow a
Decent shower
Decent bogs
No fking dogs

Just needed a little tidying up.

AdeTuono

Original Poster:

7,277 posts

229 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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HOGEPH said:
Japveesix said:
bingybongy said:
A decent shower
A decent bog
No fking dogs
That's it really.
I'm not sure poetry is for you really.
If you'd allow a
Decent shower
Decent bogs
No fking dogs

Just needed a little tidying up.
Almost a Haiku!

bingybongy

3,887 posts

148 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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AdeTuono said:
HOGEPH said:
Japveesix said:
bingybongy said:
A decent shower
A decent bog
No fking dogs
That's it really.
I'm not sure poetry is for you really.
If you'd allow a
Decent shower
Decent bogs
No fking dogs

Just needed a little tidying up.
Almost a Haiku!
I've just looked up Haiku.
I have heard of them but wasn't intentionally attempting one.

I don't see that not allowing dogs limits your market drastically. I actually like dogs but don't own one and never will. I also don't like being around other people's dogs.
There are a lot of people like me when it comes to dogs.

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

172 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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bingybongy said:
AdeTuono said:
HOGEPH said:
Japveesix said:
bingybongy said:
A decent shower
A decent bog
No fking dogs
That's it really.
I'm not sure poetry is for you really.
If you'd allow a
Decent shower
Decent bogs
No fking dogs

Just needed a little tidying up.
Almost a Haiku!
I've just looked up Haiku.
I have heard of them but wasn't intentionally attempting one.

I don't see that not allowing dogs limits your market drastically. I actually like dogs but don't own one and never will. I also don't like being around other people's dogs.
There are a lot of people like me when it comes to dogs.
You have a point, but camping/caravan/motorhome are in my eyes one of the few pretty accepting places for dog owners, you do struggle to find b&bs, hotels and small style airbnb places that accept hounds, like another poster in here said that doesn't house 42 and doesn't charge the earth. Glamping with an eye for dog owners, but with enough separation to allow their owners and those who don't like them to co-habit, hits a part of the market of those who want to camp, but without the gear and who own dogs that they can't realistically leave at home/want to take with them.

The OP however has stated he wont be going that route, which is understandable, i just personally see a gap for glamping with the kind of things on offer (Coke and hooker or fire pits) that allow dogs.

bingybongy

3,887 posts

148 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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Define your market and go for it I say. Fire pits, coke and hookers sounds great.

Vaud

50,846 posts

157 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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Hilts said:
How about a small on-site bakery?

I stayed in a camp-site in Amsterdam that had one, very popular. Baguettes straight from the oven. yum
Possible - at least a bread ordering service from a good local bakery. I don't mind paying a (good) markup if I don't have to get in the car and drive at 7am...

GlenMH

5,220 posts

245 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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A contact of mine runs canopy and stars and I was talking about exactly this with him just recently. The 2 key requirements are: complete privacy and making it an experience. Bearing in mind that he has people booking with him 18 times/year, then he probably has got his market nailed.

skinnyman

1,654 posts

95 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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We went last year with our son, we loved it.

They had:
small table/chairs outside
Fire pit
Comfy beds
Welcome hamper
Firewood
Candles & such all over the place inside

Just small touches, like the solar powered fairy lights in the tree next to the tent, just added to the experience of it all

loafer123

15,487 posts

217 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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Really good showers.

You say "somewhere to shower", which says to me you aren't taking this bit seriously enough!